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8 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2012 - 12:47PM #31
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You'll always want the blue one to be even. I'd change it to mill and tap or I dunno. Draw X cards is usually rare .
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2012 - 1:30PM #32
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I s'pose I could change it to tap. X is going to find homes in every rarity. This set is all about the X.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2012 - 2:28PM #33
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I actually don't like the Godyl sorcery cycle, simply because you have to choose targets regardless of if you've paid an even X or odd X to cast it.

Example 1: I cast Godyl's Gluttony for X=6. I still have to choose 6 artifacts which are valid targets, even though they won't get destroyed.

Example 2: I cast Godyl's Grandeur for X=8. I still have to target a creature. Oh hey! My opponent kills that creature in response to my spell because they understand the rules as well as, if not better than, I do. The spell's only target is now an illegal target, the spell fizzles, I gain no life even though I paid an even amount for X.

Honestly, it's not that annoying for the black one. But either way, I think you'd be better off finding a way to template them so that they're modal, but at the same time only modal based on what you paid. Because as we all know, you don't have to choose legal targets for all modes of a Bant Charm when you cast it, only the mode you choose.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2012 - 8:28PM #34
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Perhaps

Choose one--Destroy X target artifacts, where X is odd; or ~ deals X damage to target creature or player, where X is even.

So you choose your mode and then have to pay a valid cost.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 10, 2012 - 10:40PM #35
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I don't know if knifethrower's wording works, but I think "choose one" is necessary here. how about:
choose one--if x is even ~ deals x damage, or, if x is odd, destroy x target artifacts. I'm pretty sure this works.

the only problem with this is that you can still choose to destroy artifacts when x is even.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2012 - 3:28AM #36
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Oct 10, 2012 -- 10:40PM, saprolangtoken wrote:

I don't know if knifethrower's wording works, but I think "choose one" is necessary here. how about:
choose one--if x is even ~ deals x damage, or, if x is odd, destroy x target artifacts. I'm pretty sure this works.

the only problem with this is that you can still choose to destroy artifacts when x is even.




Yeah, that would work, but I didn't suggest it for the same reason you stated (bolded). Sure, the artifacts wouldn't be destroyed due to the X not being odd, but...

There is another way the spells could be worded, but I think it would seriously mess up the way pablo intended the cycle to be. Using Godyl's Gluttony for example:

Godyl's Gluttony
Sorcery
If X is even, ~ deals X damage to up to one target creature or player.
If X is odd, destroy up to X target artifacts.

The good side: You don't have to choose X target artifacts when X is even. The bad side: You can now destroy an even amount of artifacts when you pay an odd X, as opposed to needing there to be exactly that many legal artifact targets.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 11, 2012 - 4:53AM #37
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Fatal Abacus
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,: Deal X damage to target creature, draw X cards, lose X life.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 12, 2012 - 8:39PM #38
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Meh. Maybe I'll just take away the three last ones. I don't really feel like "fixing" them. New cards:

Two-Fingered Horner
Creature - Satyr Druid (C)
Creature spells with a converted mana cost of 10, 12, 14, or 16 cost 2 less to cast.

"Just wait until I lose one of these."

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Creature - Shapeshifter (C)
As long as Shadowy Figure is in your hand, its converted mana cost is the number of your choice.

"You get what you pay for."

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2012 - 4:37AM #39
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So you could make shadowy figure cost ?
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 15, 2012 - 6:34AM #40
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Oct 15, 2012 -- 4:37AM, BibboTheFirst wrote:

So you could make shadowy figure cost ?




I think the ability would only work while the card is in the hand ( there are cards that care about CMC in the hand ). As far as casting it, it moves to the stack before costs are determined so a player will always be paying the , barring any outside influences .

Although I am worried about the interactions it has with some of the cards I linked above, especially Disaster Radius. Or combining it with Painter's Servant and any of the Shoals (choose the appropriate color for the Shoal, exile the Figure naming what its CMC is, get your X effect worth whatever arbitrarily large number you choose, like 65457263487695623658; since the alternate casting cost cares about the CMC of the card while it's in your hand and the ability of the Figure works from the hand (albeit it doesn't become known information unless it's revealed from your hand or changes zones), it doesn't matter that it's a 3 cmc when it hits the exile zone). I'd put a cap on the ability so nobody can do such crazy things with it. Maybe give it CMC equal to something, like the number of lands you control? Again limiting it to your hand, cause I like that you can't tutor for it using any Transmute card you want to. Or win clashes with it.

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