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8 months ago  ::  Oct 07, 2012 - 9:50PM #51
NeoMint
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Oct 7, 2012 -- 9:09PM, MoiMoi wrote:

People still cut to see who goes first? Damn I'd hate to play an aggro deck with you guys....




I've made a case for the fact that a deck with lower CMC deserves to go first, to no avail.       

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 07, 2012 - 10:01PM #52
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My group's reasoning is that the player with a higher CMC card on bottom is being denied apowerful card and should have priority forit, but it doesn't make much sense to me :/
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 07, 2012 - 10:13PM #53
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Oct 7, 2012 -- 10:01PM, Helluminatus wrote:

My group's reasoning is that the player with a higher CMC card on bottom is being denied apowerful card and should have priority forit, but it doesn't make much sense to me :/




Yeah, that doesn't make sense at all. A "powerful" card is only a powerful card if you can get to the mana to cast in from a safe possition. If that reasoning was sound then everyone would just run 6drops.dec. I'd hate to have a 5 Swamp , 2 Grave Titan hand.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 12:30AM #54
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Oct 7, 2012 -- 10:01PM, Helluminatus wrote:

My group's reasoning is that the player with a higher CMC card on bottom is being denied apowerful card and should have priority forit, but it doesn't make much sense to me :/




Suddenly, Ember Shot .

Suddenly, Scornful Egotist .

Yeah, I remember cutting instead of rolling die when I first started playing, but now I realize how many problems there are with that. Also, I think we went with the lowest CMC winning, so there was a lot of trying again after both players cut a land, and I think it was generally accepted that the winner should make the other player go first because then they wouldn't draw on their first turn... 

Thanks for explaining, by the way, Mage. I'm pretty sure my playgroup also plays with that rule, so that permanents that a player owns when they lose are treated as leaving the battlefield.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:06AM #55
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Oct 7, 2012 -- 9:21PM, Sleeping wrote:

Who the hell cuts to see who goes first anymore? I thought that was a relic of the past. The cool way to go is to guess collectors numbers.



So White Weenie always goes last vs. MBC?

We changed the O-ring rules after a guy O-ringed the commander of a player with a seal of cleasing on the table, then conceded in response to the o-ring being targeted. Permanent Commander lockout, becuase the owner had let it get removed, rather than going to the commander zone.

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You should never explain layers to people unless one of the following is true: they're studying for a judge exam, you're both in a Ben Affleck movie and it's the only way to save the world, or you hate them.

Jan 2, 2009 -- 12:46PM, WotC_dlaugel wrote:

We try to maintain the illusion that Magic cards are written in English.

May 8, 2013 -- 4:42PM, mjeremyjarvis wrote:

May 8, 2013 -- 4:33PM, Yxoque wrote:

Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.


oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol



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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:11AM #56
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:06AM, EyeHunter wrote:

Oct 7, 2012 -- 9:21PM, Sleeping wrote:

Who the hell cuts to see who goes first anymore? I thought that was a relic of the past. The cool way to go is to guess collectors numbers.



So White Weenie always goes last vs. MBC?

We changed the O-ring rules after a guy O-ringed the commander of a player with a seal of cleasing on the table, then conceded in response to the o-ring being targeted. Permanent Commander lockout, becuase the owner had let it get removed, rather than going to the commander zone.



Most people let their opponent guess even/odd for the collector number of a hidden card (sometimes a card outside the game, sometime from a deck cut). Unless your opponent researches your deck/card collection very carefully, it should be pretty close to 50/50.

"I think me going Bang bang bang I win is pretty intuitive"

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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

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(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 9:13AM #57
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However, it is unfairly biased against decks that only contains cards with odd collectors' numbers (or the even cooler, prime collectors' number only decks).

Excuse me, I have a deck to build. 
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


Congratulations, they have activated your trap card!


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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 1:27PM #58
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:06AM, EyeHunter wrote:

Oct 7, 2012 -- 9:21PM, Sleeping wrote:

Who the hell cuts to see who goes first anymore? I thought that was a relic of the past. The cool way to go is to guess collectors numbers.



So White Weenie always goes last vs. MBC?

We changed the O-ring rules after a guy O-ringed the commander of a player with a seal of cleasing on the table, then conceded in response to the o-ring being targeted. Permanent Commander lockout, becuase the owner had let it get removed, rather than going to the commander zone.


jesus. thats poor sportmanship.

people lose their commander (semi-)permanently all the time.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 2:32PM #59
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 9:06AM, EyeHunter wrote:

Oct 7, 2012 -- 9:21PM, Sleeping wrote:

Who the hell cuts to see who goes first anymore? I thought that was a relic of the past. The cool way to go is to guess collectors numbers.



So White Weenie always goes last vs. MBC?

We changed the O-ring rules after a guy O-ringed the commander of a player with a seal of cleasing on the table, then conceded in response to the o-ring being targeted. Permanent Commander lockout, becuase the owner had let it get removed, rather than going to the commander zone.



Player one chooses a card from their collection or deck. Player two guesses even or odd. If they are right, they make the call. If they are wrong, you do.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2012 - 11:44AM #60
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Ah, I hadn't seen that before. If we don't have dice, we use Rock-Paper-sisscors, despite what the offical RPS Legues will tell you.
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Mar 2, 2013 -- 11:57AM, WotC_MattT wrote:

You should never explain layers to people unless one of the following is true: they're studying for a judge exam, you're both in a Ben Affleck movie and it's the only way to save the world, or you hate them.

Jan 2, 2009 -- 12:46PM, WotC_dlaugel wrote:

We try to maintain the illusion that Magic cards are written in English.

May 8, 2013 -- 4:42PM, mjeremyjarvis wrote:

May 8, 2013 -- 4:33PM, Yxoque wrote:

Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.


oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol



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