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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 5:48PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2009
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Haven't been in the game for a few years. Making this deck to play w/ a new friend that plays magic. I know he runs burn among other decks so I figured a control mono U deck would be a good start to combat not only straight burn but other types of decks. I play casual and stick to vintage as far as card restrictions and bans. Trying to make this deck on a budget. Budget to me is under 20$, but I could go to 30$ max. Just trying to keep it easy on the pocket. I tend to go overboard w/ my addiction and run a LARGE tab on mtgfanatic, ebay, coolstuffinc, etc, which is why I've quit before! Anyhow, Here's the deck and any advice is appreciated. 20x island 4x dispel 4x spell pierce 4x miscalculation 4x mana leak 4x counterspell 4x forbid 1x ponder (This still restricted in vintage?) 3x impulse 3x boomerang 3x unsummon 3x mahamoti djinn 3x fettergeist Basically counter and bounce to control the early board till I can get a big flying beater out there for the win condition. Really had no clue on anything that might be more suitable for lands besides basics. This would probably run me about 20$ give or take and I believe it could definitely handle a basic burn deck or any other standard creature deck, etc. Thoughts?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 6:00PM
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Needs delver of secrets , prob 1-2 talrand, sky summoner and as many phyrexian mana spells as u can pack into their. Then lots of counters and draw. think twice is useful? ponder and preordain are banned in modern/extended/standard
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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 7:13PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2009
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Thanks for the input jnp5021. I contemplated the delver of secrets . He seems great, but what's to stop him from simply getting burned or spot removaled if I cast him in the early rounds. Or say I don't and it happens later rounds. Why mess w/ him in later rounds when I could drop the mahamoti djinn or fettergeist ? talrand, sky summoner seems like he would fit great, but seems like if I'm spending 4 converted I might as well be dropping a hvy beater right? Plus, he's certainly out of the price range. What exactly are the phyrexian mana spells you are referring to?... I've been out of the loop for a while so I'm not sure what exactly you're referring to. think twice looks great, but you don't think the impulse and ponder will be enough draw to keep the pace up?... Is it worth dropping some counter for you think? Okay, well I play vintage so as far as I know ponder is still restricted which is why I threw one in there.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 1:47PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2009
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Holy *&$^. After a bit of searching I found the phyrexian mana cost cards you were referring to. Maybe it's just me but those are some seriously resourceful cards... Reminds me of a force of will . Here is the deck modified. Not sure if the mental misstep is worth removing something even though it seems very handy for early game, not so much for later. 20x island 4x dispel 4x spell pierce 4x miscalculation 4x mana leak 4x counterspell 4x forbid 4x gitaxian probe 3x boomerang 3x unsummon 3x mahamoti djinn 3x fettergeist
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 1:48PM
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Nevinyrral's Disk Back To Basics Both are really powerful. Into The Roil is my favorite bounce spell. Use it if you want.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 2:05PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 23, 2011
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 8:20PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2009
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Wow. Definitely some great advice. Thanks guys. That sphinx of jwar isle is a super mahamoti djinn ! Okay, so first off, nevinyrral's disk , back to basics , sapphire medallion , fact or fiction are all way too expensive to fit into this budget deck. I'm having a pretty hard time balancing the counter/draw/bounce and making sure I have enough counter in here and not too much draw. However, I'm feeling the bounce can be cut down. Here's what I came up with. Tell me what you think. (Counter to draw ratio okay or too even? More counter less draw?) If less draw would it be worth it to cut down a bit of the draw to add a few everflowing chalice ? 20x island 4x miscalculation 4x mana leak 4x counterspell 4x forbid 4x gitaxian probe 4x preordain 3x think twice 3x into the roil 4x psionic blast 3x sphinx of jwar isle 3x fettergeist
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 8:47PM
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Date Joined:
Sep 23, 2011
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 4:44AM
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Date Joined:
Aug 29, 2009
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My budget is 20-30$ for this deck. So I can afford say, the playset of psionic blast for 5.50$ off ebay. But you have to keep the entire deck list in mind. That playlist alone takes up a bit of the budget. So even though a card is 1$ makin' the playset 4$, it's not that expensive, but a deck full of them adds up.  I really don't see the huge benefit in the fact or fiction card... Also I don't entirely get it. So the opponent can say, make 4 of the cards revealed one pile, and say 1 island the other pile?... Oh wait... I get it. I would get to choose so they try to make both piles more even... I get it. Still don't see the huge benefit for 4 converted... Is there something more to it I'm not getting?... I definitely see the benefit in the spire golem . I'll run it over the fettergeist . When I contemplated the delver of secrets I just saw it getting spot removed so easily w/ burn or B/W removal. But I guess that's just something I need to watch out for and for 1 converted I can keep a counter rdy. Sure. I'm starting to get pretty excited about running this as my comeback deck. Just want to get it perfect before I go droppin' cash online for the cards. How's this? 20x island 4x miscalculation 4x mana leak 4x counterspell 4x forbid 3x gitaxian probe 3x preordain 3x think twice 3x into the roil 4x psionic blast 2x delver of secrets 3x sphinx of jwar isle 3x spire golem
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8 months ago ::
Oct 06, 2012 - 5:23AM
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When I contemplated the delver of secrets I just saw it getting spot removed so easily w/ burn or B/W removal
They HAVE to kill Delver or it will win you the game. It's such an awesome critter for control.
I personally think 20 lands for control is too low - going up to 22-24 would be better. Also some Man Lands is good for control decks.
I'm not really a fan of Psionic in here - it doesn't feel right/ I'd replace it with either more board control, or better draw.
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