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Oct 6, 2012 -- 7:51AM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Oct 5, 2012 -- 1:25PM, morticianjohn wrote:

I actually think it's the lack of decent cards that drives the price up. If the set had shocklands, or fetchlands instead of the manlands and a couple of other decent cards to go along with stoneforge mystic and Jace then they would have sold more product and the set would be more widely availible.

I think that vendors didn't want to buy/open worldwake because it was a huge lottery... either you opened a Jace and made money or you didn't open jace and lost money. That is why his price started at 20 but continued to go up because everyone wanted to buy him as a single and no one wanted to crack packs to get him (because everything else in the set was worthless). stoneforge mystic was popular but didn't start to really gain popularity until after squadron hawk hit standard and really 1 mythic and 1 rare will have a hard time carrying a set.

Quite the contrary. When a booster is worth nothing, they don't inflate the price. They're selling them higher because a lot of people wanted to open them and were willing ot shell out 8$ a pack and still are, not because people don't want to open them. If nobody opened boxes, them nobody would pay a premium to open them, simple as that. 

Exactly.  Worldwake is expensive because there are a lot of good cards in it, and it's a small set, so the liklihood of getting them is greater.  But if its price is , as morticianjohn said, due to the lack of good cards, well then Fallen Empires and Homelands would be much more expensive.

Oct 6, 2012 -- 7:08PM, RxPhantom wrote:

Oct 6, 2012 -- 2:45PM, morticianjohn wrote:

There is only one card selling over 10 dollars on the secondary market. stoneforge mystic is the only card selling at 10, all of the rest rare or mythic are 5 or less. Where are all these valuable, highly sought after cards?

So he who warped Standard doesn't count?  Somebody listed several examples earlier in the thread.  Regardless, the notion that a lack of good cards somehow drives up the price of a box...it just doesn't play.

By the way, a foil Jace 2 is worth a cool $300.

The existence of Jace in addition to the lack of other good cards means the Sealed boxes of worldwake sell for more than sealed boxes of the other products (of similar age). If there were a lot of desirable cards in that set then opening the boxes to try and get Jace singles would have been a fruitful endeavor. More sales would mean more supply which would help to meet the demand which would lower the price of the singles in the set (and booster packs/boxes).

Unfortunately the set is out of print as so many new players are coming into the game. That is the problem with this set and future sight. Each set has one key card that is highly sought after. The demand spike from the influx of new players for those key cards is what is driving the price of those booster boxes.

Shortly after future sight came out you could open packs and sell all tarmogoyf you found and make a profit doing it. Eventually due to supply and demand the price of goyf dropped to levels where this was no longer possible. I didn't see this with jace. The price went up and up over 100 dollars while he was still standard legal, but there wasn't a large portion of players who were ordering boxes and opening packs and selling Jace on Ebay (I'm sure there were some there is always a few) like with future sight. Since worldwake went out of print we've had a bunch of new players who want to get their Jace, the mind sculptor but if worldwake had been more desirable (as an entire set, rather than just the one card) while it was in print then it would have sold more packs.

We can't go back in time and correct the supply issue but really the set (other than jace) was pretty worthless and I think that hurt sales which is one factor that makes it more expensive now than it probably should be.

Anyway it's certainly not because it has a plethora of good cards because there are only 2 cards that are really desirable based on the secondary market. Maybe the value of the rest of the set doesn't make a difference because the demand for Jace is so high which is driving the price down on everything else. Whatever the case it seems there is only one reason worldwake is selling at more than double MSRP now.

Oct 8, 2012 -- 6:42AM, the_possum_man wrote:

Well after making this post i have been doing alot of catching up on the new additions to the game. I still dont have anyone to casually play with, my only option would be to go to the local FNM but as money is tight i dont have too much extra for hobbies anymore. It is amazing as one mans trash is anothers treasure, I have been saving two copies of jace 2 mint unplayed. I dislike playing with blue, it isnt my style and dont like the win scenarios playing with jace or much of the way blue plays. SO i decided to trade them in to an online store for credit and buy a box of innistrad(i like the entire expansion) and alot of other singles for personal collection. But i have bought alot of other singles from innistrad block to add to and improve my current decks. I am planning on making two commander decks, zombies and a werewolf/human/wolf deck, just because i guess. I really like the new commander format it seems like one of the more fun out there. Just one copy means i can play a diverse deck and dont have to collect a playset of something. I need some nerdy friends to play with though. Those cant be traded for unfortunately. And no i dont really like to play online at all or much on any console. I prefer the old sit down at the kitchen table and laugh and have a good time.

Yeah, I wish everyone could have friends like mine who were willing to facilitate a wonderful play group.