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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:18AM #1
killerrahi
Date Joined: Sep 28, 2012
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Alright.

Cunning Lethemancer and Staff of Nin
Staff lets me draw at beginning of my Upkeep, Lethemancer makes all players discard at beginning of my Upkeep.
Since they are all my triggers, I chose the order they activate, right?
So if I had 0 cards in hand, I'd activate Staff of Nin, than Lethemancer. I discard a card, than draw one.
Also, Mindstorm Crown
Lets say I also have this one out. I have 1 card in hand.
I activate Staff of Nin , Mindstorm Crown , than the Cunning Lethemancer .

Which ability of Mindstorm Crown activates? When I activated it, I had one card in hand, but when it resolves I have zero. Do I draw, or take the damage?
I'm going to assume I would take the damage, as I had a card in hand at the beginning of my turn.

Thanks for the help

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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:21AM #2
Chaikov
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2006
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 8:18AM, killerrahi wrote:

Cunning Lethemancer and Staff of Nin
Staff lets me draw at beginning of my Upkeep, Lethemancer makes all players discard at beginning of my Upkeep.
Since they are all my triggers, I chose the order they activate, right?
So if I had 0 cards in hand, I'd activate Staff of Nin, than Lethemancer. I discard a card, than draw one.


Yes, that works.
You will draw but won't discard, because you had no card in Hand.

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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:23AM #3
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Yes, you choose the order they go on the stack. Activating specifically means using an activated ability, so when you say activate the staff of nim, I think "tap it to deal 1 damage."

Both the lethemancer and the staff trigger at the same time, and you'll put the triggers on the stack in the order of your choice. Then they'll resolve one at a time.

Mindstorm Crown only cares about your hand size as the turn began, not what your current hand size is. See the oracle text in the autocard link you posted.
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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:23AM #4
Chaikov
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 8:18AM, killerrahi wrote:

Also, Mindstorm Crown
Lets say I also have this one out. I have 1 card in hand.


Crown will damage you, whatever you do.

«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»

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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:26AM #5
Chaikov
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Take note that those are «triggered» abilities, not «activated» abilities.
You don't get to activate them; they trigger automatiquely.
You do get to place them on the Stack, in whichever order you please, since they all trigger simultaneously.  
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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 8:26AM #6
killerrahi
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Thanks to all! (and I'll watch for trigger/activate in the future
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9 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 11:30PM #7
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Oct 4, 2012 -- 8:26AM, killerrahi wrote:

Thanks to all! (and I'll watch for trigger/activate in the future



Triggered ability: "At", "Whenever", etc...
Activated ability: "Cost: effect"

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