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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 5:45AM #1
NightmareLord
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Can the effect of a Goblin Electromancer (Instant and Sorcery spells you cast cost [1] less to cast) reduce the cost of the X in a spell?

For example, if you have a Goblin Electromancer in play, and cast Blaze, could you pay the [R], and then use the electromancer's effect to 'pay' 1 mana for the X cost, without actually spending any mana?

Also, if the answer is yes, then what about a spell like Consume Spirit, where X must be played with black mana? Can that still benefit from Goblin Electromancer's reduction?
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 6:54AM #2
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Next time, please ask your questions in Rules Q&A. The FAQs and Reference forum is for, well, FAQ and Reference documents.

Can the effect of a Goblin Electromancer (Instant and Sorcery spells you cast cost [1] less to cast) reduce the cost of the X in a spell?


Yes.

For example, if you have a Goblin Electromancer in play, and cast Blaze, could you pay the [R], and then use the electromancer's effect to 'pay' 1 mana for the X cost, without actually spending any mana?


Yes, you can pick 1 for the value of x, and then calculate the spell's total cost to be .

Also, if the answer is yes, then what about a spell like Consume Spirit, where X must be played with black mana? Can that still benefit from Goblin Electromancer's reduction?


Yes, consume spirit can benefit.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 04, 2012 - 4:03PM #3
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 2:24AM #4
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Thanks for your reply.

I apologise; I thought I had posted it in the Rules Q&A thread. Sorry for the inconvenience.
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 8:25AM #5
m190443
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Dear "Rules Advisor" do you remember a card named Heartstone? has the rule changed? 
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 8:26AM #6
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Oct 27, 2012 -- 8:25AM, m190443 wrote:

Dear "Rules Advisor" do you remember a card named Heartstone? has the rule changed? 


don't bump old threats

not sure what Heartstone has to do with anything
if you have a rules question, make a new thread

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 9:23AM #7
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Oct 27, 2012 -- 8:25AM, m190443 wrote:

Dear "Rules Advisor" do you remember a card named Heartstone? has the rule changed? 


Yes, we remember Heartstone. It still works the way it used to, and Goblin Electromancer works as Cyphern says it does. We'll be glad to answer any questions you may have on this subject, or anything else about Magic. Just ask!

BTW, Cyphern IS a Rules Advisor, certified and all. The "" you used are not justified and, in fact, leaning on the verge of insulting. But perhaps you did not mean it that way?

«Dystocracy : A system of government in which corrupt leadership colludes with dishonest bankers and greedy elites in order to ensure that productive members of society –people who actually do useful work- bear the greatest share of taxes while gaining the least benefit possible.»

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 7:26PM #8
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i have former experience with the rules advisors not following the english language. as for heartstone/goblin electromancer comparison, my thought is basically what's good for the goose is good for the gander. my inquiry is not a rules question, but an inquiry into the interpretation of the rules that differ
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7 months ago  ::  Oct 27, 2012 - 7:57PM #9
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Oct 27, 2012 -- 7:26PM, m190443 wrote:

i have former experience with the rules advisors not following the english language. as for heartstone/goblin electromancer comparison, my thought is basically what's good for the goose is good for the gander. my inquiry is not a rules question, but an inquiry into the interpretation of the rules that differ



Interpretations of rules don't differ. If two people disagree on a rule, it means at least one of them is wrong, not that the rules are unclear. Magic's rules are strict and there is always a "correct answer" for rules questions.

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7 months ago  ::  Oct 28, 2012 - 1:26AM #10
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I still don't know what Heartstone has to do with anything
that is for activated abilities, not for spells
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