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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 3:02PM
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Hello, I was wondering if Emrakul, the Aeons Torn  and his protection would keep him safe from Oblivion Ring  or Fiend Hunter  ? Since they enter the battlefield as permanents, they would work right?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 3:03PM
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yes, their triggers are abilities, not spells, so Emrakul's protection does not apply
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 3:06PM
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I figured as much, but I was confused as to which came first, them coming into play then triggering? Or triggering then coming into play? You helped to clarify, thank you
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 3:08PM
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I figured as much, but I was confused as to which came first, them coming into play then triggering? Or triggering then coming into play? You helped to clarify, thank you
Entering the battlefield is the trigger condition, and meeting that condition is what causes the ability to trigger.
Fiend Hunter and O-ring target as permanents, not spells (if they were still spells they wouldnt be on the battlefield, so they wouldnt have triggered yet).
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That makes no sense to me.
If they spelled the ability out on the card in full then it would not be allowed in a mono-black Commander deck, but because they used a keyword to save space it is allowed?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 3:37PM
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Fiend Hunter and O-ring target as permanents
nitpick: technically, they don't target at all, it's their triggered abilities that do all the targeting
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