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Oct 6, 2012 -- 9:40AM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 4, 2012 -- 9:10AM, Scorpious wrote:

Chiming in on GM: It was the first deck I unlocked and have tried a lot of the cards out and different builds. I really wanted Avatar of Discord to be a good fit, but unfortunately the draw back of discarding two cards for a 5/3 flier for 3 mana and no other abilities is not worth it in my opinion. Just the fact that there is so much removal in the meta now, makes it more risk than reward. I can only think of once or twice where I actually was able to hit someone with it. Every other time it was a three for one for my opponent. The only way the discard is not a draw back is when you play it on turn 3 or 4 and you have either multiple Demigod's  or a bomb in hand along with Reanimate. That way you can play a demigod and bring the other into play or you reanimate a titan or wurm. But that situation is not always going to come up, so a lot of times the avatar would just sit there in my hand.

I also stopped playing the kindlers, the mages and the cultists because they are two slow and situational. They need something else in play to be worth it and the payout is not that great. I ran the mage and cultist combo for a while and while it is nice to have the extra removal option, you need two weenie creatures in play and mana available to just get rid of one creature. Why use all of those resources when you can just cast Terminate or Wrecking Ball or even the blast. The ran the kindlers for a long time because they had haste and it gave my gougers haste, but other than that it's a 1/1 haste for 2 mana. Not great on it's own and most of my other creatures already have haste exept my 6 mana bombs which honestly don't really need haste.

I tested the ogres as well, but they were too random for my taste and not a great top deck if your opponent doesn't have any cards. At that point he is a vanilla 4/3 for 4 mana.

I was just thinking about the Ogres and their "topdeck viability" but I thought of something else....by this same logic you must not play the hellhole rats or blazing specter either right?

I get the logic they use, and those two are a little different. For one, the rats get rid of the card, so if your opponent tries keeping a card back, they lose it. Bye bye kill spell, farewell sweeper, adios mind control, you get the idea, right? Limits options, and does damage as well, the ogre just does damage. The spectre prevents holding cards back altogether in top deck mode. You don't play it, you lose it. And both have haste too. Ogre lets them keep the card and is actually only a vanilla 3/2, not 4/3, for four cmc. 

Oct 6, 2012 -- 9:48AM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 5, 2012 -- 7:56AM, Sir_Hellraiser wrote:

Here is a build i created last night  How to impove this build to really compete with the other decks. I basically built it around  hex  proof and flying creatures 

"Starter" library

for Aura Servants (Azorius): 41 picks, 61 cards

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Creatures
cost	■■	Aven Mimeomancer	3/1
	■■	Flickerwisp	3/1
	■■	Talon Trooper	2/3
cost	■■	Celestial Ancient	3/3
	■■	Followed Footsteps
cost	■	Iridescent Angel	4/4
Immunity
cost	■■■■	Invisible Stalker	1/1
cost	■	Geist of Saint Traft	2/2
cost	■■	Aven Fleetwing	2/2
	■■■■	Indestructibility
Fetch
cost	■	Nomad Mythmaker	2/2
cost	■	Sovereigns of Lost Alara	4/5
Aura
cost	■	Lifelink
cost	■■	Daybreak Coronet
cost	■■	Griffin Guide
cost	■	Drake Umbra
	■	Fool's Demise
	■■	Mammoth Umbra
Combat surprises
cost	■	Eel Umbra
Removal
cost	■■	Pacifism
cost	■	Pariah
cost	■■	Mind Control
Sweeper
cost	■■	Winds of Rath

Get the deck planner used to make this table.>>>

Drop the Celestial Ancients, this isn't an aggro deck so the +1/+1 isn't really a help and I would also add 2x Empyrial armor. Every 4 games or so you statistically have the odds of dropping it turn 3 on a creature....Also, the Iridescent Angel has protection from you. You can't even attach an aura onto it. At 7 mana you are dropping a single 4/4. Its a fog bank on defense against anything big and does four damage on turn 8 to your enemy at a maximum. Consider another sovereign or the wall for lifelink. Also, the card that allows you to draw a card when you do damage synergizes perfectly with an unblockable hexproof.

Thanks for the post i will give that a try 

Oct 7, 2012 -- 6:25AM, monk1410 wrote:

That is a good build but i would drop the defiler and run 60 cards.

That defiler works SOOOOOO good against Aura Servants...but i have trouble putting in a single card that works in a 1/15 mathup...though its good vs some other decks too.