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8 months ago ::
Oct 02, 2012 - 11:09PM
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I'm debating my 1 drop for my Red Deck, and while I like Rakdos Cackler, I am not sure if Stromkirk Noble is better than Vexing Devil. Unanswered, Stromkirk is pretty good. However, I'm not sure if it'll do 4 at a drop. Late game, eh, I don't think it matters all that much. I shouldn't be getting to the late game, anyway.
So between the one drops, which one would you run?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 12:20AM
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May 10, 2012
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It really depends on your deck. Think about it this way, Vexing Devil almost always just deals 4 damage and then completes its purpose. But in a typical game with your deck, will Stromkirk on average be able to deal less or more than 4 damage before it is killed off or controlled? Ask the same question for Rakdos Cackler, and make your decision based on how much damage it should normally deal before it's done.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 7:11AM
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I vote Noble and Cackler for your 1-drops.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 8:50AM
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Assuming you're going for basic Red Deck Wins, I would try to make room for both. Vexing Devil isn't actually that good turn one, I've seen much better plays saving him for later. Specifically, turn four you can play Devils (when they're getting low on life so it's a hard choice), and if they take 4 you can Brimstone Volley to make it 9.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 9:02AM
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since vexing devil is an awful magic card, i would say go with noble
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 9:32AM
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If you are playing RUG Splinterfright , then Vexing Devil is worth the consideration because you get value out of dumping creatures into the graveyard. In a vacuum though, it's 4 damage and a wasted creature card or a creature that is likely to get stopped by a sweeper or bigger creature, and outside of some awkward synergy that isn't enough value on a card per card basis. Stromkirk Noble on the otherhand is a rapidly snowballing threat that guts another major aggro deck and also has a habit of baiting removal rather quickly, which leaves your opponent with fewer tools to deal with your other threats.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 1:21PM
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Stromkirk Noble the oneyou want since humans are popular and u can side in vexing if need be
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 1:35PM
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Stromkirk Noble the oneyou want since humans are popular and u can side in vexing if need be
i can't imagine being in a match and thinking to myself "i need more vexing devil in this matchup"
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 2:51PM
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Stromkirk Noble the oneyou want since humans are popular and u can side in vexing if need be
i can't imagine being in a match and thinking to myself "i need more vexing devil in this matchup"
Except for the one where I'm playing Ranger of Eos with it =P.
That said, Devil is actually a very good card in some decks. But as pointed out above, it's not really a 1-drop.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 03, 2012 - 9:22PM
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Vexing is a better late game card. I think the choice falls on your creatures/spells ratio. Vexing is better in a burn deck, Noble is better in a heavy creature deck. Noble needs a few turns to matter. Vexing either has an immediate or next turn effect. In my experience, Noble does little vs humans. Fiend hunter owns him badly.
It varies with your deck, but Vexing is generally better.
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