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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 12:41AM #11
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Oct 6, 2012 -- 12:17AM, Escef wrote:

Oct 5, 2012 -- 11:11AM, rmd1983 wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:07AM, Escef wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 8:49AM, perodequeso wrote:

The more common colloquial term is "milling".



Well, "milling" is the most common way to "deck" an opponent. My preferred method is Palinchron + High Tide to generate infinite mana and hit my opponent with an arbitrarily large Stroke of Genius or Braingeyser .





Prior to onslaught block correct? I mean i've heard of this awesome mill card called brain freeze and only way to counter storm is through stifle or some other card with a similar effect 



My. Preferred. Method.

I despise Storm. Storm decks ignore the opponent for 3 or 4 turns, then win. It isn't even a game at that point.




Hey, sometimes they play a Duress or Thoughtseize !

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 11:05AM #12
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Oct 5, 2012 -- 11:11AM, rmd1983 wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:07AM, Escef wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 8:49AM, perodequeso wrote:

The more common colloquial term is "milling".



Well, "milling" is the most common way to "deck" an opponent. My preferred method is Palinchron + High Tide to generate infinite mana and hit my opponent with an arbitrarily large Stroke of Genius or Braingeyser .





Prior to onslaught block correct? I mean i've heard of this awesome mill card called brain freeze and only way to counter storm is through stifle or some other card with a similar effect 




i had a brain freeze deck back during that time that went off on turn 6 usually. Cowardice + ornithopter + lightning greaves + brain freeze or minds desire into brain freeze is what won me games. Unfortunately the meta that that time was turn 2-3 you lose due to affinity so it never got to be more than a casual deck.


   
   
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 8:35PM #13
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Strangely enough I decked an oppoenent in a Draft Match this afternoon playing a mostly Azorius build using Psychic Spiral
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 07, 2012 - 1:52AM #14
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Bloodchief Ascension has never been relevant, by the way.

The only mill deck I know of that has had positive results is Turbo-Fog, around TSP-LOR, afaik. It's a deck that players a bajillion of Howling Mine effects and then obsoletes the combat step by preventing the combat damage with Fog effects. It requires a somewhat aggressive meta game though, if your opponent lands a Planeswalker you might be wrecked, unless you have prepared to interact with it. I don't think it works very well against Burn either.

That is if we ignore infinite mana engines coupled with Draw Spells, ProsBloom also won by forcing your opponent to draw from an empty library.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 07, 2012 - 10:05AM #15
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Oct 7, 2012 -- 1:52AM, Mown wrote:

That is if we ignore infinite mana engines coupled with Draw Spells, ProsBloom also won by forcing your opponent to draw from an empty library.



No, Pros Bloom won by drawing a bunch of cards, pitching them for black mana, and sticking a straw in the opponent . Given how much card drawing and deck thinning a ProsBloom deck does, using Prosperity to deck the opponent would end in a draw (i.e., tie) game.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 4:35AM #16
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Oh, right. I kinda ignored that it used symmetrical card draw when I wrote that.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 4:47AM #17
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I'm not sure if Dimir on a Stick ever happned in Legacy.

The only mill deck I have had much success with came during Timespiral-Lorwyn with Drowner of Secrets . It had success at FNM events but it was pretty high risk reward, because Damnation could really wreck it. Fun times though, fun times. It also could sideboard itself into a full on Fish deck with 4*Reejerey and 4*Lord of Atlantis
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Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

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Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 5:32AM #18
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 4:47AM, Dr_Demento wrote:

I'm not sure if Dimir on a Stick ever happned in Legacy.




Glimpse the Unthinkable cannot be imprinted on Isochron Scepter due to being a sorcery.

On that note, a first turn Jace's Phantasm followed by a second turn Glimpse the Unthinkable could be good.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 08, 2012 - 8:56AM #19
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Oct 8, 2012 -- 5:32AM, Gemstone386 wrote:

Oct 8, 2012 -- 4:47AM, Dr_Demento wrote:

I'm not sure if Dimir on a Stick ever happned in Legacy.




Glimpse the Unthinkable cannot be imprinted on Isochron Scepter due to being a sorcery.

On that note, a first turn Jace's Phantasm followed by a second turn Glimpse the Unthinkable could be good.



Whoops.

Also, I totally meant extended not legacy. Legacy looks at a 5 turn clock and laughs. Obviously that still doesn't work.

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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


Congratulations, they have activated your trap card!


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8 months ago  ::  Oct 09, 2012 - 7:48AM #20
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Oct 6, 2012 -- 12:17AM, Escef wrote:

Oct 5, 2012 -- 11:11AM, rmd1983 wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:07AM, Escef wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 8:49AM, perodequeso wrote:

The more common colloquial term is "milling".



Well, "milling" is the most common way to "deck" an opponent. My preferred method is Palinchron + High Tide to generate infinite mana and hit my opponent with an arbitrarily large Stroke of Genius or Braingeyser .





Prior to onslaught block correct? I mean i've heard of this awesome mill card called brain freeze and only way to counter storm is through stifle or some other card with a similar effect 



My. Preferred. Method.

I despise Storm. Storm decks ignore the opponent for 3 or 4 turns, then win. It isn't even a game at that point.




Well, Storm decks pack a punch but nothing says die storm like a stifle. I hated playing against aluren too though but loved playing it, probably the best enchantment ever right there   

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