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8 months ago  ::  Oct 01, 2012 - 2:33AM #1
Deride
Date Joined: Nov 23, 2011
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I'm interested in starting a new Knight deck, but it's been a while and I have no idea what to begin with. Any suggestions?

Would it be plausible to have a B/W deck with both Phyrexian Crusader and Mirran Crusader , or would it be better to just stick with single color?

EDIT
Here's an updated list;

Creatures 

Student of Warfare x4
Accorder Paladin x4
Knight Exemplar x4
Knight of the White Orchid x4
Mirran Crusader x3
Silver Knight x4
Silverblade Paladin x3
Knight of Meadowgrain x4
Hero of Bladehold x2 

Spells 

Brave the Elements x3
Honor of the Pure x4
Path to Exile x3

Lands 

Plains x18
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 01, 2012 - 3:11AM #2
Sleeping
Date Joined: Sep 23, 2011
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Probably best to stick with white, it has the majority of Knights.


Most importantly you probably want to choose some kind of "general". That way you have something to tie together the Knight theme. Knight Exemplar and Kinsbaile Cavalier are options. Hell, you can even play both. You don't need to play either though, but they do give you a reason to be running Knights. Another good Knights-matter card is War Falcon , I'd definitely recommend running it since it gets you 2 power and evasion for just one mana.


There's only one good one mana Knight, so I'd recommend running it if you can. That's Student of Warfare . He can be a 3/3 first striker on turn 2 if you need him to be. He's really good at using up what extra mana you have lying around.


Knight of the White Orchid it one of my top choices for Knights. If you're on the draw rather than the play it is almost always getting you a land and allowing you to have three mana on turn 2. Even if you are on the play it is sometimes worth it to just stay at two Plains until your opponent plays a third land, since you are getting a free land from your library if you do so.


Knight of the Holy Nimbus is another solid option. It is really hard to kill with both removal and creatures. So this guy sticks to the field well.


Knight of Meadowgrain is nuts against aggressive decks. The lifelink will help you stabilize and the first strike will eat their creatures.


Leonin Skyhunter and Spectral Rider are evasive options.


Silverblade Paladin is like a 4/2 that makes another knight do double damage. Good for the price.


Accorder Paladin is good if you have a lot of creatures on the board. It really makes you do a significant amount more of damage. Battle cry goes really good with first strike and is absolutely disgusting with double strike, common properties among Knights. If you play this you might also want to consider Signal Pest , it's not a Knight but it is very useful at dishing out that quick damage. You may also want to play Attended Knight in that case for the first strike and extra token.


Order of Leitbur // Order of the White Shield // White Shield Crusader is good against black, and is a decent way to capitalize on extra mana. Its body isn't that impressive on its own though, so they probably aren't worth playing maindeck unless you think you'll have extra mana laying around.


Adding Green actually gives you some really powerful options. So you might want to consider that.


Selesnya Charm is very powerful utility. Being a flash Knight, buff spell, or removal spell.


Knotvine Paladin will often attack as a 3/3, sometimes a 4/4, since your plan is to play Knights every turn.


Knight of the Reliquary is one of the most powerful creatures in Magic. It's only at its very best though when you have fetchlands like Windswept Heath in your deck and utility lands to fetch off of it though.


Knight of the Skyward Eye has the standard 2/2 body, but can really capitalize on extra mana late game.


Juniper Order Ranger is a little slow, but scary when it lands.


Wilt-Leaf Cavaliers is a good sized body for its cost, and can be played with whatever kind of mana you have available at the time unless you're playing colorless lands.


Wilt-Leaf Liege is like the generals, buffing your squad. However this one really helps with the multicolored guys by giving them +2/+2.


Going blue is another option if you want to play more controlling. In that case you get Lyev Skyknight who is a great evasive creature, Sky Hussar who's a good draw engine, Court Hussar who also helps get you cards and defend, and Thistledown Liege who is a general that can surprise your opponent out of nowhere.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 01, 2012 - 6:46AM #3
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Date Joined: Aug 19, 2010
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Oct 1, 2012 -- 2:33AM, Deride wrote:

I'm interested in starting a new Knight deck, but it's been a while and I have no idea what to begin with. Any suggestions?

Would it be plausible to have a B/W deck with both Phyrexian Crusader and Mirran Crusader , or would it be better to just stick with single color?




Going multicolor is most often a more powerfull option IF you can put together a decent manabase to support the colors. BUT there is a really good reason not to mix the 2 crusaders, mixing infect and non-infect is always a bad idea (you attack the opponents life starting from 20 and try to poison him, wanna get 10 counters on him: so with 19 non-infect damage and 9 infect damage you dealt 28 damage in total, but your opponent still lives -> bad idea).

I have a knight deck which i quite like based upon Haakon, Stromgald Scourge with some tribal/changeling abuse ( Nameless Inversion , Crib Swap ) and some nice knights like Sky Hussar , Court Hussar , Stillmoon Cavalier , Ethersworn Adjudicator and (again some changeling action) Mirror Entity . Add in some discard outlets ( Thirst for Knowledge , Skirk Ridge Exhumer ) and you are set. Since the cards in this deck are quite color heavy i use lots of enters the battlefield tapped dual/triple lands and it plays out more like a tapout control deck, not the usual knight deck, but fun for sure.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 01, 2012 - 1:57PM #4
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I also have an esper haakon deck and ill pre-emptively say you're friends will hate you ETERNALLY for it. And on a semi-helpful note stillmoon cavalier is a card, so use and abuse him.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 01, 2012 - 3:56PM #5
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Pretty much everything I could've said has been said already.

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 01, 2012 - 4:58PM #6
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Knight Exemplar makes tactics like Divine Reckoning possible.

In my mono-W Knight deck, I have about 3 of the above sweepers, together with a couple  Emeria, the Sky Ruin .
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 02, 2012 - 6:47AM #7
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pretty much everything has been said.  honor of the pure might worth a slot.  I would consider so type of removal like wrath of god since your knoghts would be indestructible with the knight exemplar
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 03, 2012 - 12:28AM #8
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I feel I don't even need to say this (but I will anyway)...
Knight Exemplar
Also just pick some of the neat looking knights from Sleeping's post (excellent options, btw), slap in a few Honor of the Pure , and some other good spells, and there ya go!
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 12:19PM #9
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Sorry for the late response, been pretty busy lately.

Thank you all for your suggestions, I came up with a mono white decklist based on them:

Creatures - 30

War Falcon x4
Accorder Paladin x4
Knight Exemplar x4
Knight of the White Orchid x4
Mirran Crusader x4
Knight of the Holy Nimbus x3
Silverblade Paladin x4
Knight of Meadowgrain x3

Spells - 10

Brave the Elements x4
Honor of the Pure x4
Day of Judgment x2 


Lands - 20
Emeria, the Sky Ruin x4
Plains x16 


What do you guys think? Would Hero of Bladehold fit into this deck?
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 1:49PM #10
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looks pretty good to me. Only change I would make is swapping some of the 2-drops out for a playset of Student of Warfare , but that's just me.
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