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Sep 30, 2012 -- 7:50PM, Sleeping wrote:

Yes. Any two colors in Magic combine very well. Certain color pairs do certain things well. is almost always control. control decks use to draw cards, counter spells, and bounce things. They use for removal, board sweepers, and lockdown effects.

The most important thing to remember when building a mutlicolored deck is that you have to be able to draw lands that produce the correct color of mana to cast your spells. Dual lands like Glacial Fortress help you by having the option to produce different types of mana.

Even better, Hallowed Fountain . And you should run both.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 9:54PM, Sleeping wrote:

Even better, Tundra . And you should run all three.

I think a card that costs $85 each (for a mangled copy) or $106 (for one that is in good condition) and isn't even usable in standard, extended or modern is really quite silly advice for a new player.

A full playset of BOTH Glacial Fortress and Hallowed Fountain costs less than a single heavily played Tundra. And those are both legal in standard atm.

But yeah, Glacial Fortress is probably your best bet if you're on a budget (and you might also want to pick up some Azorius Guildgates; they're not as good, but they're not exactly terrible, and they cost next to nothing), but if you're reasonably well off Hallowed Fountain is a great card.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 9:54PM, Sleeping wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 1:53PM, bay_falconer wrote:

Sep 30, 2012 -- 7:50PM, Sleeping wrote:

Yes. Any two colors in Magic combine very well. Certain color pairs do certain things well. is almost always control. control decks use to draw cards, counter spells, and bounce things. They use for removal, board sweepers, and lockdown effects.

The most important thing to remember when building a mutlicolored deck is that you have to be able to draw lands that produce the correct color of mana to cast your spells. Dual lands like Glacial Fortress help you by having the option to produce different types of mana.

Even better, Hallowed Fountain . And you should run both.

Even better, Tundra . And you should run all three.

Yeah, but I'm pretty surewe're not talking about Legacy here.

Oct 2, 2012 -- 7:46AM, Sleeping wrote:

You're missing the point. I was just annoyed at falconer for thinking I had to showcase the best possible land when just providing an example of what a dual land is which a new player might not be familiar with, and just used Glacial Fortress because it is a core set staple. I hope you don't actually think I was suggesting that a new player go out and buy a playset of Tundra .

Hell, even Hallowed Fountain are expensive. You expect a new player to want to shell out $55 on a set of lands? Really the best option for a new player would probably be Sejiri Refuge or Azorius Chancery (though Celestial Colonnade , Adarkar Wastes , Skycloud Expanse , and Glacial Fortress aren't that bad), since they're at most a dollar for a full set. You can acquire better fixing over time.

Why wouldn't you suggest Tundras to a new player? Might as well break them in 1 staple at a time and show them how much of a money sink magic is right.

Yeah because we all know $55 is a TON of $$ for lands that shock you when you play them untapped and $30 is expensive for 1 card when you could save that money up to buy an even better card like black lotus, recall, or timewalk