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Flag razorborne December 27, 2012 6:46 AM PST
wow yeah researching this format was awful. I got down some random obvious ideas, compared them, found the best, and threw it in without really exploring much of anything. kudos to those of you who found something actually good. I'm surprised not to see more path decks. I was really planning around path-plains-plated sliver being a real thing.

 
Flag thatmarkguy December 27, 2012 8:09 AM PST
Ouch.  That's gonna leave a mark.

I gambled that there would be more 1CMC threats in this format than 2CMC threats (I could have run Supply // Demand rather than Stand // Deliver as my Disrupting Shoal feeder).  Gamble fail.  I still would have done poorly, but not _as_ poorly.
Flag razorborne December 27, 2012 8:42 AM PST
of the three decks graded so far, I'm winning!

no one else grade any other decks.

 
Flag mqj December 27, 2012 9:39 AM PST
Entered my scores.
Spoiler: Show

Google docs

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banned cards

Barren Glory
Blackmail
Chancellor of the Annex
Channel
Flash
Foil
Force of Will
Ghost Quarter
Inquisition of Kozilek
Laboratory Maniac
Leyline of Anticipation
Lodestone Golem
Phyrexian Revoker
Shelldock Isle
Show and Tell
Strip Mine
Thoughtseize
Wasteland

---===---

format:

All cards in your deck must begin with the same letter.

Also The Rack and Shrieking Affliction are banned.

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1. Purple_Shrimp
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Thallid
Tinder Farm
totally tubular.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

Maze of Ith buys enough time to cast Magmatic Force .

mqj - 6
Purple_Shrimp - 0

Spoiler: Show

Turn 1
Purple_Shrimp Play Tinder Farm
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar

Turn 2
Purple_Shrimp Cast Thallid
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)

Turn 3
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Purple_Shrimp Sacrifice Tinder Farm
Purple_Shrimp Cast Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)

Turn 4
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 19)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)

Turn 5
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Purple_Shrimp Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Purple_Shrimp Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Purple_Shrimp Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Purple_Shrimp Put a 1/1 Saproling1 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 18)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)

Turn 6
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 17)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 16)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)

Turn 7
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 15)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 14)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)

Turn 8
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Purple_Shrimp Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Purple_Shrimp Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Purple_Shrimp Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Purple_Shrimp Put a 1/1 Saproling2 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 13)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 12)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)

Turn 9
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 11)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 10)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (20, 9)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)

Turn 10
Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (20, 8)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 7)
Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (20, 6)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Cast Magmatic Force

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2. Caldera42
Seachrome Coast
Sea's Claim
Student of Warfare
What manner of doting patriarch consumes the fried potatoes belonging to his female progeny & disdains to match her gaze?.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

Student of Warfare wins.

Caldera42 - 6
mqj - 0

Spoiler: Show

Caldera42 on the play

Turn 1
Caldera42 Play Seachrome Coast
Caldera42 Cast Student of Warfare
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar

Turn 2
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (1)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 1 damage; (20, 19)
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)

Turn 3
Caldera42 Cast Sea's Claim
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 1 damage; (20, 18)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)

Turn 4
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (2)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 15)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)

Turn 5
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (3)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 12)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)

Turn 6
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (4)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 9)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)

Turn 7
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (5)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 6)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)

Turn 8
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (6)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 3)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)

---===---

mqj on the Play

Turn 1
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar
Caldera42 Play Seachrome Coast
Caldera42 Cast Student of Warfare

Turn 2
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)
Caldera42 Cast Sea's Claim
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 1 damage; (20, 19)

Turn 3
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (1)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 18)

Turn 4
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (2)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 15)

Turn 5
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (3)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 12)

Turn 6
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (4)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 9)

Turn 7
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (5)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 6)

Turn 8
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (6)
Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare ; deal 3 damage; (20, 3)

Turn 9
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)
Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare (7)

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3. verdek
Icatian Store
Iona, Shield of Emeria
Island Sanctuary
I c what u did there.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

Iona, Shield of Emeria costs nine mana. Magmatic Force costs eight mana. Even if verdek goes first, Magmatic Force can be cast first. Maze of Ith prevents Iona, Shield of Emeria . Magmatic Force can fire direct damage past Island Sanctuary .

mqj - 6
verdek - 0

Spoiler: Show

Turn 1
verdek Play Icatian Store
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar

Turn 2
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (1)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)

Turn 3
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (2)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)

Turn 4
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (3)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)

Turn 5
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (4)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)

Turn 6
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (5)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)

Turn 7
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (6)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)

Turn 8
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (7)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)

Turn 9
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (8)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)

Turn 10
verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store (9)
mqj Cast Magmatic Force

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4. silasw
Mox Jet
Mishra's Factory
Mesmeric Fiend
Mesmerry Christmas.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

silasw - 6
mqj - 0

---===---

5. DARK_DRAC0
Mishra's Workshop
Mox Ruby
Moltensteel Dragon
Mishra 's pet dragon's.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

mqj - 6
DARK_DRAC0 - 0

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7. morticianjohn
Cry of Contrition
Chronomaton
Caves of Koilos
MOAR C'S PLEASE!.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

mqj - 2
morticianjohn - 2

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8. thatmarkguy
Disrupting Shoal
Dryad Arbor
Stand // Deliver
ISaidIdUseASplitCard.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

mqj - 6
thatmarkguy - 0

---===---

9. tmich
Chalice of the Void
Chronomaton
City of Traitors

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

mqj - 6
tmich - 0

---===---

10. razorborne
Sandstone Needle
Steel Overseer
Stigma Lasher

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

If razorborne puts seven +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer , then Maze of Ith can prevent it and Magmatic Force can get ride of Stigma Lasher .
If razorborne puts two +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer and attempt to win the damage/storage counter race, then Magmatic Force wins.
If razorborne puts one +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer and attempt to win the damage/storage counter race, then Magmatic Force wins.

mqj - 6
razorborne - 0

Spoiler: Show

If razorborne puts two +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer and attempt to win the damage/storage counter race, then Magmatic Force wins.
Turn 1
razorborne Play Sandstone Needle
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar

Turn 2
razorborne Cast Steel Overseer
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)

Turn 3
razorborne Sacrifice Sandstone Needle
razorborne Cast Stigma Lasher
razorborne Put a +1/+1 counter on Steel Overseer (1)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)

Turn 4
razorborne Put a +1/+1 counter on Steel Overseer (2)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)

Turn 5
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 18)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)

Turn 6
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 16)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)

Turn 7
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 14)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)

Turn 8
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 12)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)

Turn 9
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 10)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)

Turn 10
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 8)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Cast Magmatic Force

---===---

If razorborne puts one +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer and attempt to win the damage/storage counter race, then Magmatic Force wins.

Turn 1
razorborne Play Sandstone Needle
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar

Turn 2
razorborne Cast Steel Overseer
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)

Turn 3
razorborne Sacrifice Sandstone Needle
razorborne Cast Stigma Lasher
razorborne Put a +1/+1 counter on Steel Overseer (1)
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)

Turn 4
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 18)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)

Turn 5
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 16)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)

Turn 6
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 14)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)

Turn 7
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 12)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)

Turn 8
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 10)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)

Turn 9
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 8)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)

Turn 10
razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer
razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher ; deal 2 damage; (20, 6)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Cast Magmatic Force

---===---

11. Ffancrzy
Temple Garden
Thallid
Thornscape Apprentice
An old standby.dec

6. mqj
Maze of Ith
Mercadian Bazaar
Magmatic Force
all_start_same_letter.dec

Ffancrzy on the play: Thallid wins.
mqj on the play: Magmatic Force wins; take note that Magmatic Force deals damage every upkeep.

mqj - 3
Ffancrzy - 3

Spoiler: Show

Ffancrzy on the Play

Turn 1
Ffancrzy Play Temple Garden
Ffancrzy Pay 2 life to Temple Garden ; (18, 20)
Ffancrzy Cast Thallid
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar

Turn 2
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Cast Thornscape Apprentice
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 19)
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)

Turn 3
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 18)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)

Turn 4
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling1 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 17)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)

Turn 5
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 16)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 15)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)

Turn 6
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 14)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 13)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)

Turn 7
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling2 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 12)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 11)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)

Turn 8
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 10)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 9)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 8)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)

Turn 9
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 7)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 6)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 5)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)

Turn 10
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling3 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 4)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 3)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 2)
Ffancrzy Block with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
mqj Cast Magmatic Force

Turn 11
mqj Deal 3 damage Magmatic Force
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Thornscape Apprentice Dies
mqj Tap Magmatic Force
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 1)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 0)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling3; deal 1 damage; (18, -1)
mqj Block with Maze of Ith
---===---

mqj on the Play

Turn 1
mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar
Ffancrzy Play Temple Garden
Ffancrzy Pay 2 life to Temple Garden ; (18, 20)
Ffancrzy Cast Thallid

Turn 2
mqj Play Maze of Ith
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (1)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Cast Thornscape Apprentice

Turn 3
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (2)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 19)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 4
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (3)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling1 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 18)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 5
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (4)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 17)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 16)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 6
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (5)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 15)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 14)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 7
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (6)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (3)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Remove a spore from Thallid (0)
Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling2 onto the battlefield with Thallid
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 13)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 12)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 8
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (7)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (1)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 11)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 10)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 9)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 9
mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar (8)
Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid (2)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 8)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 7)
Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 6)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 10
mqj Cast Magmatic Force
Ffancrzy "Put a spore counter on Thallid " goes on the stack.
mqj Magmatic Force deals 3 damage
Ffancrzy Thallid Dies
mqj Tap Magmatic Force
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid ; deal 1 damage; (18, 5)
Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid
mqj Block with Maze of Ith

Turn 11
mqj Magmatic Force deals 3 damage
Ffancrzy Thornscape Apprentice Dies

Flag Rush_Clasic December 27, 2012 11:08 AM PST
Apparently the "Send PM" button didn't work. Bah!
Flag Caldera42 December 27, 2012 1:36 PM PST
guys you were supposed to play bouncelands and depletion lands come on
Flag morticianjohn December 28, 2012 7:39 AM PST
Thanks to whomever scored my games. I went through and scored my games then compared them to what was already there and I found some discrepancies but of course all of the issues were things that I overlooked and mistakes that I made so whomever scored my games thanks, I would have gotten it wrong.
Flag Mage24365 December 28, 2012 7:41 AM PST

Dec 28, 2012 -- 7:39AM, morticianjohn wrote:

Thanks to whomever scored my games. I went through and scored my games then compared them to what was already there and I found some discrepancies but of course all of the issues were things that I overlooked and mistakes that I made so whomever scored my games thanks, I would have gotten it wrong.



That would be me.
At first I thought Cry was a duress variant, and then I had to redo everything.
Turns out basically nothing changes. 

Flag morticianjohn December 28, 2012 8:14 AM PST

Dec 28, 2012 -- 7:41AM, Mage24365 wrote:

Dec 28, 2012 -- 7:39AM, morticianjohn wrote:

Thanks to whomever scored my games. I went through and scored my games then compared them to what was already there and I found some discrepancies but of course all of the issues were things that I overlooked and mistakes that I made so whomever scored my games thanks, I would have gotten it wrong.



That would be me.
At first I thought Cry was a duress variant, and then I had to redo everything.
Turns out basically nothing changes. 




You didn't play this round? We're losing players and we need you.

Flag Mage24365 December 28, 2012 8:21 AM PST
Too lazy to come up with decks.
I did 3CM here before Caldera started it, and did all the grading. It comes pretty easily.
I only play occasionally, when I have a deck I like.  
Flag morticianjohn December 28, 2012 12:57 PM PST

Dec 28, 2012 -- 8:21AM, Mage24365 wrote:

Too lazy to come up with decks.
I did 3CM here before Caldera started it, and did all the grading. It comes pretty easily.
I only play occasionally, when I have a deck I like.  




I don't think about it too much. When I first started playing I kept overthinking it (and submitting poor decks) so now I just figure out a viable decklist and run with it and hope I don't get steamrolled like the first few times I played. Strangely enough while the amount of time spent thinking about the meta and coming up with a decklist has gone down my rating goes up. At least for me it's more fun if I don't work too hard at it (although my decklists are frequently "boring" or "uninspired").

In my defense this round I did have a sense of inspiration by taking the minimal alliteration theme and pushing it to the next level

Cry of Contrition
Caves of Koilos
Chronomaton

So really if you take out the two of's all of the words have the same sound to start with. So while I didn't win this round I'm happy that I was able to fully grasp the theme of the restriction and take it to the next level.

Flag Rush_Clasic December 28, 2012 2:58 PM PST
I thought I had sent Shrimp Badlands / Blinkmoth Nexus / Bitterblossom . But apparently I didn't. I would have ranked as follows (I think):

 


1: 3
2: 6
3: 6
4: 0
5: 3
6: 6
7: 0
8: 6
9: 6
10: 6
11: 6

Bitterblossom is sick. 

Flag thatmarkguy December 28, 2012 9:14 PM PST
Part of why I wanted Black Lotus out of circulation.  I imagine a great deal of players would have submitted something like Black Lotus - Bitterblossom - SomeOtherBThingLikeBeckonApparitionOrBogRatsOrBileUrchinOrBumpInTheNight .

Out of curiosity: in the discussion before the format was finalized and it was thought that Loti and dupes would be allowed, people were talking about having decks that could beat the Black Lotus decks, even the Double-Black-Lotus decks.  What were the nature of those decks?  I didn't see anything in this format that could stop an on-the-play-turn-1 Lotus (Artifact Blast and Simian Spirit Guide starting with different letters; there being no 0-cost blue card starting with D to pair with Disrupting Shoal) and once a Lotus or two is down there are so many different ways that player could go that I can hardly imagine a deck that is able to deal with them all.
Flag razorborne December 28, 2012 10:17 PM PST

Dec 28, 2012 -- 9:14PM, thatmarkguy wrote:

Part of why I wanted Black Lotus out of circulation.  I imagine a great deal of players would have submitted something like Black Lotus - Bitterblossom - SomeOtherBThingLikeBeckonApparitionOrBogRatsOrBileUrchinOrBumpInTheNight .

Out of curiosity: in the discussion before the format was finalized and it was thought that Loti and dupes would be allowed, people were talking about having decks that could beat the Black Lotus decks, even the Double-Black-Lotus decks.  What were the nature of those decks?  I didn't see anything in this format that could stop an on-the-play-turn-1 Lotus (Artifact Blast and Simian Spirit Guide starting with different letters; there being no 0-cost blue card starting with D to pair with Disrupting Shoal) and once a Lotus or two is down there are so many different ways that player could go that I can hardly imagine a deck that is able to deal with them all.



considering that none of the major lotus fatties start with B, I imagine plains-path-plated sliver would deal with many of them.

 

Flag verdek December 29, 2012 1:36 AM PST

Dec 28, 2012 -- 10:17PM, razorborne wrote:

Dec 28, 2012 -- 9:14PM, thatmarkguy wrote:

Part of why I wanted Black Lotus out of circulation.  I imagine a great deal of players would have submitted something like Black Lotus - Bitterblossom - SomeOtherBThingLikeBeckonApparitionOrBogRatsOrBileUrchinOrBumpInTheNight .

Out of curiosity: in the discussion before the format was finalized and it was thought that Loti and dupes would be allowed, people were talking about having decks that could beat the Black Lotus decks, even the Double-Black-Lotus decks.  What were the nature of those decks?  I didn't see anything in this format that could stop an on-the-play-turn-1 Lotus (Artifact Blast and Simian Spirit Guide starting with different letters; there being no 0-cost blue card starting with D to pair with Disrupting Shoal) and once a Lotus or two is down there are so many different ways that player could go that I can hardly imagine a deck that is able to deal with them all.



considering that none of the major lotus fatties start with B, I imagine plains-path-plated sliver would deal with many of them.

 


As far as lotus bombs, none of the usual suspects show up. However, Baneslayer Angel is pretty good I hear.

Flag silasw December 29, 2012 9:39 AM PST
Maze of Ith handles Baneslayer quite nicely as well.
Flag Mage24365 December 29, 2012 9:57 AM PST
If lotus were legal, the best deck is probably Lotus-Badlands- Bloodline Keeper .
It gets some obscene number of points. Looks like 57. It even 4-1s BSA.
Flag razorborne December 29, 2012 10:28 AM PST

Dec 29, 2012 -- 9:57AM, Mage24365 wrote:

If lotus were legal, the best deck is probably Lotus-Badlands- Bloodline Keeper .
It gets some obscene number of points. Looks like 57. It even 4-1s BSA.



were affliction legal, it probably would've done comparably. you can't compare a deck with a broken card to a metagame constructed around that card being banned.

 

Flag bay_falconer December 29, 2012 10:36 AM PST

Dec 29, 2012 -- 9:39AM, silasw wrote:

Maze of Ith handles Baneslayer quite nicely as well.




Protection from lands is so rare that Maze of Ith is a really powerful card in this format.

@Mage24365: Why Badlands ? A swamp works just as well.

Flag Ffancrzy December 29, 2012 10:39 AM PST

Dec 29, 2012 -- 10:36AM, bay_falconer wrote:

Dec 29, 2012 -- 9:39AM, silasw wrote:

Maze of Ith handles Baneslayer quite nicely as well.




Protection from lands is so rare that Maze of Ith is a really powerful card in this format.

@Mage24365: Why Badlands ? A swamp works just as well.




Swamp begins with S not B.

Flag bay_falconer December 29, 2012 11:13 AM PST
I keep forgetting Shrimp has more Byzantine rules than Final Fantasy Tactics' law system.

Come to think of it, "Byzantine" also begins with a B.
Flag Purple_Shrimp December 29, 2012 4:00 PM PST
lol
Flag Rush_Clasic December 30, 2012 11:22 PM PST
When's the next round due?
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 3, 2013 2:10 PM PST
ok fine
Flag thatmarkguy January 3, 2013 4:11 PM PST
Banlist update?  The OP mentions nothing of The Rack / Shrieking Affliction ban discussion that I've seen bandied about.  There's been a little discussion about unbanning Phyrexian Revoker or Wasteland.  I think a concrete restatement of current banlist would help (and any potential policy about future banlist change methods?)
Flag razorborne January 3, 2013 7:15 PM PST

Jan 3, 2013 -- 4:11PM, thatmarkguy wrote:

Banlist update?  The OP mentions nothing of The Rack / Shrieking Affliction ban discussion that I've seen bandied about.  There's been a little discussion about unbanning Phyrexian Revoker or Wasteland.  I think a concrete restatement of current banlist would help (and any potential policy about future banlist change methods?)



the rack/affliction thing was specifically for last round.

 

Flag Purple_Shrimp January 3, 2013 9:30 PM PST
yes

with that said, I'm going to test out unbanning wasteland . those who have already submitted, feel free to resubmit
Flag Rush_Clasic January 3, 2013 10:50 PM PST
Dammit, Shrimp! Why do you hate me?
Flag Nyktos January 4, 2013 6:55 PM PST
Oh hey I haven't done this in a while.
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 4, 2013 10:34 PM PST
its not the same without you baby xoxo
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 6, 2013 3:50 PM PST
The poll for next round is up. seeing as I was a bit late to get it posted, I'll run it until grading for this round has finished
Flag razorborne January 6, 2013 5:23 PM PST
why the hell hasn't the critter one gone away yet?

 
Flag thatmarkguy January 6, 2013 9:01 PM PST
I hardly see the point of that fifth option.  Creature cards in the deck must be 1/1?  Doesn't that largely come down to "Vanilla, but Thalia and Vampire Hexmage are banned"? I mean, half the vanilla decks don't even use any creature cards, and among those that do, Dryad Arbor, Chronomaton, and Memnite are three of the most popular creatures.
Flag razorborne January 6, 2013 9:09 PM PST

Jan 6, 2013 -- 9:01PM, thatmarkguy wrote:

I hardly see the point of that fifth option.  Creature cards in the deck must be 1/1?  Doesn't that largely come down to "Vanilla, but Thalia and Vampire Hexmage are banned"? I mean, half the vanilla decks don't even use any creature cards, and among those that do, Dryad Arbor, Chronomaton, and Memnite are three of the most popular creatures.



also, lotus-fatty is banned. it's not currently much of a deck for some reason but it's still ocassionally a thing.

 

Flag morticianjohn January 6, 2013 10:44 PM PST

Jan 6, 2013 -- 5:23PM, razorborne wrote:

why the hell hasn't the critter one gone away yet?

 




Vote for it one week and we'll play it and then it can go away.

Flag Caldera42 January 7, 2013 6:01 AM PST
the poll option for the haiku format is misleading. You can name your deck whatever you want, but the point is the *cards* in your deck must form a haiku.
Flag thatmarkguy January 7, 2013 6:44 AM PST
And by that, strictly meaning, "Your deck must consist of two cards whose names are five syllables and one card whose name is seven syllables"? 
Flag Rush_Clasic January 7, 2013 4:05 PM PST
It might be early to discuss this, but since it looks like it's winning rather handily, we should consider some bannings for the super-big-life-total format. For starters:

Test of Endurance and Felidar Sovereign

After that, there are a number of cards like these that could be banned, but they aren't as outright, so I'm not sure about throwing the ax at them.

There are other cards I think might warp the format, but since I'm so unsure, I'd rather not discuss them and spoil the whole format. It looks really fun, though. Had I investigated earlier, I would have voted for it long ago. 
Flag Caldera42 January 8, 2013 10:53 AM PST

Jan 7, 2013 -- 4:05PM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

It might be early to discuss this, but since it looks like it's winning rather handily, we should consider some bannings for the super-big-life-total format. For starters:

Test of Endurance and Felidar Sovereign

After that, there are a number of cards like these that could be banned, but they aren't as outright, so I'm not sure about throwing the ax at them.

There are other cards I think might warp the format, but since I'm so unsure, I'd rather not discuss them and spoil the whole format. It looks really fun, though. Had I investigated earlier, I would have voted for it long ago. 



yeah one of the conditions of my format was that a few cards would be banned, incl the ones you listed

Jan 7, 2013 -- 6:44AM, thatmarkguy wrote:

And by that, strictly meaning, "Your deck must consist of two cards whose names are five syllables and one card whose name is seven syllables"? 



yes and they must be submitted in the order 5-7-5 

Flag thatmarkguy January 8, 2013 11:55 AM PST

Jan 8, 2013 -- 10:53AM, Caldera42 wrote:


yes and they must be submitted in the order 5-7-5 




But Shrimp enters them into the spreadhseet in alphabetical order.  So do we need to make sure that it still holds the 5-7-5 meter even after the cards are sorted into alphabetical order, or is it OK when our haiku appears in the spreadsheet as 5-5-7 or 7-5-5?

Are we allowed the usual poetic license to choose whether to pronounce usually-monosyllabic words ending in ed as 2-syllable if we prefer?


IE, "Armored Griffin" - many a poet would pronounce it as 5-syllable "Ar-mor-ed Griff-in" or 4-syllable "Ar-murd Griff-in" as better suits their meter. 

Flag Caldera42 January 9, 2013 6:48 AM PST

Jan 8, 2013 -- 11:55AM, thatmarkguy wrote:

Jan 8, 2013 -- 10:53AM, Caldera42 wrote:


yes and they must be submitted in the order 5-7-5 




But Shrimp enters them into the spreadhseet in alphabetical order.  So do we need to make sure that it still holds the 5-7-5 meter even after the cards are sorted into alphabetical order, or is it OK when our haiku appears in the spreadsheet as 5-5-7 or 7-5-5?


no I guess he would not do that this round

Are we allowed the usual poetic license to choose whether to pronounce usually-monosyllabic words ending in ed as 2-syllable if we prefer?


IE, "Armored Griffin" - many a poet would pronounce it as 5-syllable "Ar-mor-ed Griff-in" or 4-syllable "Ar-murd Griff-in" as better suits their meter. 


If you can find a pronunciation on marriam-webster that suits your need, sure. I don't think "ar-mor-ed" is an acceptable variation, but I didn't look it up

Flag Rush_Clasic January 9, 2013 4:02 PM PST
I demand spreadsheets. Or pudding. Definitely one of the two.
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 9, 2013 4:51 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 4:02PM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

I demand spreadsheets. Or pudding. Definitely one of the two.



ask and ye shall receive

docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0As0...

Flag mqj January 9, 2013 5:15 PM PST

Entered my scores.

Corrected row#1 1. Purple_Shrimp versus 9. mqj from 1 to 3.
Spoiler: Show

Google docs

---===---

banned cards

Barren Glory
Blackmail
Chancellor of the Annex
Channel
Flash
Foil
Force of Will
Ghost Quarter
Inquisition of Kozilek
Laboratory Maniac
Leyline of Anticipation
Lodestone Golem
Phyrexian Revoker
Shelldock Isle
Show and Tell
Strip Mine
Thoughtseize

---===---

format:

Vanilla

---===---

1. Purple_Shrimp
Mox Pearl
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Wasteland
a chip off the old mox.dec

2. Nyktos
Mox Pearl
Thalia, Guardian of Thraben
Wasteland

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

First turn Thanks, Guardian of Thraben prevents Black Lotus and wins.
Duress discard Mox Pearl and Gatekeeper of Malakir wins.

mqj - 3
Purple_Shrimp - 3

mqj - 3
Nyktos - 3

---===---

3. Caldera42
Anvil of Bogardan
Mishra's Workshop
The Rack
Up and over, we go through the wave and undertow I will float until I learn how to swim.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

mqj - 3
Caldera42 - 3

---===---

4. razorborne
Badlands
Shrieking Affliction
Stromkirk Noble
beatsbaddecks.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

razorborne - 4
mqj - 1

---===---

5. Rush_Clasic
Glistener Elf
Pendelhaven
Pithing Needle

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

Rush_Clasic - 6
mqj - 0

---===---

6. DARK_DRAC0
Emrakul, the Aeons Torn
Fiery Temper
Lion's Eye Diamond
sauron's revenge.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

mqj - 3
DARK_DRAC0 - 3

---===---

7. morticianjohn
Diregraf Ghoul
Encroach
Swamp

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

morticianjohn - 4
mqj - 1

---===---

8. silasw
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
cookiecutter.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

mqj - 3
silasw - 3

---===---

10. tmich
Chronomaton
Chronomaton
City of Traitors

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

tmich - 6
mqj - 0

---===---

11. thatmarkguy
Ensnaring Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs
BackToBridgeTongs.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

mqj on the play, Duress discards Ensnaring Bridge and wins the damage race.
thatmarkguy on the play, if cast Ensnaring Bridge first, then Duress discards Scalding Tongs and draw.
thatmarkguy on the play, if cast Scalding Tongs first, then Duress discard Ensnaring Bridge s and loses the damage race.
thatmarkguy must cast Ensnaring Bridge for a draw.

mqj - 4
thatmarkguy - 1

---===---

12. Ffancrzy
Black Lotus
Liliana of the Veil
Nether Spirit

13. verdek
Black Lotus
Liliana of the Veil
Nether Spirit
Mhmm.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

Ffancrzy - 6
mqj - 0

verdek - 6
mqj - 0

---===---

14. Mage24365
Artifact Blast
Dryad Arbor
Simian Spirit Guide
dammitthiswasinontime.dec

9. mqj
Black Lotus
Duress
Gatekeeper of Malakir
vanilla.dec

Mage24365 - 6
mqj - 0



Flag Rush_Clasic January 9, 2013 5:20 PM PST
mqj, you and I split. If you ever cast Duress or unkicked Gatekeeper, my Elf outraces you. If I ever cast Elf, you kick Gatekeeper and kill it.


Shrimp, you and I should be 3 - 3. When you're on the play, you cast Thalia, preventing my Pithing Needle, then Wasteland away Pendelhaven and outrace me. But when I'm on the play, I start with Needle naming Wasteland, then Elf + Pendelhaven outrace you (first strike won't save you against a 2/3). Same goes for my match-up with Nyktos.

DARK_DRAC0's deck was sorta cool. Is that something that's been around before? Slow but nifty.

Mage24365, you didn't heed the Wasteland unbanning! Chancellor of the Forge turns your matches against 1, 2, and 3 into 6s!
Flag razorborne January 9, 2013 6:34 PM PST
deck 4 v deck 1 (was 6-0, should be 4-1)
on the play, deck 1 dumps their hand. deck 4 can't play affliction due to Thalia, so it just plays Noble and passes. if deck 1 tries to race, deck 4 wins. if deck 1 defends, deck 4 can't swing or Thalia eats Noble and starts swinging.

still though 59 points. razorborne2gud. 

 
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 9, 2013 6:54 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:34PM, razorborne wrote:

deck 4 v deck 1 (was 6-0, should be 4-1)
on the play, deck 1 dumps their hand. deck 4 can't play affliction due to Thalia, so it just plays Noble and passes. if deck 1 tries to race, deck 4 wins. if deck 1 defends, deck 4 can't swing or Thalia eats Noble and starts swinging.

still though 59 points. razorborne2gud. 

 



thalia is a human

Flag razorborne January 9, 2013 7:10 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:54PM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:34PM, razorborne wrote:

deck 4 v deck 1 (was 6-0, should be 4-1)
on the play, deck 1 dumps their hand. deck 4 can't play affliction due to Thalia, so it just plays Noble and passes. if deck 1 tries to race, deck 4 wins. if deck 1 defends, deck 4 can't swing or Thalia eats Noble and starts swinging.

still though 59 points. razorborne2gud. 

 



thalia is a human



OH YEAH NOBLE HAS THAT ABILITY

why did no one tell me that.

 

Flag verdek January 9, 2013 8:59 PM PST
I believe my matchup against the Vraska deck should be 4-1 in my favor, because when I'm on the draw, every two turns his Vraska gets plus 2, but my Nether Spirit always hits it for 2 too.
Flag morticianjohn January 9, 2013 9:19 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 5:20PM, Rush_Clasic wrote:


mqj, you and I split. If you ever cast Duress or unkicked Gatekeeper, my Elf outraces you. If I ever cast Elf, you kick Gatekeeper and kill it.






I also have the same situation against Mqj should be 2-2.

Flag Purple_Shrimp January 9, 2013 10:17 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 7:10PM, razorborne wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:54PM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:34PM, razorborne wrote:

deck 4 v deck 1 (was 6-0, should be 4-1)
on the play, deck 1 dumps their hand. deck 4 can't play affliction due to Thalia, so it just plays Noble and passes. if deck 1 tries to race, deck 4 wins. if deck 1 defends, deck 4 can't swing or Thalia eats Noble and starts swinging.

still though 59 points. razorborne2gud. 

 



thalia is a human



OH YEAH NOBLE HAS THAT ABILITY

why did no one tell me that.

 



even if it didn't, you'd still be wrong, since it'd then be 2-2. if you led with Shrieking Affliction i'd be able to wasteland your Badlands and survive

Flag razorborne January 9, 2013 10:40 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 10:17PM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 7:10PM, razorborne wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:54PM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:

Jan 9, 2013 -- 6:34PM, razorborne wrote:

deck 4 v deck 1 (was 6-0, should be 4-1)
on the play, deck 1 dumps their hand. deck 4 can't play affliction due to Thalia, so it just plays Noble and passes. if deck 1 tries to race, deck 4 wins. if deck 1 defends, deck 4 can't swing or Thalia eats Noble and starts swinging.

still though 59 points. razorborne2gud. 

 



thalia is a human



OH YEAH NOBLE HAS THAT ABILITY

why did no one tell me that.

 



even if it didn't, you'd still be wrong, since it'd then be 2-2. if you led with Shrieking Affliction i'd be able to wasteland your Badlands and survive



yeah I forgot on the play that Thalia would stop me from playing affliction turn 2.

 

Flag mqj January 9, 2013 11:25 PM PST

Jan 9, 2013 -- 5:20PM, Rush_Clasic wrote:


mqj, you and I split. If you ever cast Duress or unkicked Gatekeeper, my Elf outraces you. If I ever cast Elf, you kick Gatekeeper and kill it.




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I agree.  I conflated Pithing Needle and Phyrexian Revoker and thought Pithing Needle prevented Black Lotus .
new score
mqj - 2
Rush_Clasic - 2

Jan 9, 2013 -- 8:59PM, verdek wrote:

I believe my matchup against the Vraska deck should be 4-1 in my favor, because when I'm on the draw, every two turns his Vraska gets plus 2, but my Nether Spirit always hits it for 2 too.




Nether Spirit does not have haste and can not attack the same turn it enters the battlefield.
I have not changed your scores.
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Turn 1
silasw Cast Black Lotus
silasw Sacrifice Black Lotus
silasw Cast Black Lotus
silasw Sacrifice Black Lotus
silasw Cast Vraska the Unseen
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (1)
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (2)
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (3)
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (4)
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (5)
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (6)
Ffancrzy Cast Black Lotus
Ffancrzy Sacrifice Black Lotus
Ffancrzy Cast Liliana of the Veil
Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (1)
Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (2)
Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (3)
Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (4)
Ffancrzy Discard Nether Spirit

Turn 2
silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (7)
Ffancrzy Return to the battlefield Nether Spirit

Turn 3
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (6)
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (5)
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (4)
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (3)
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (2)
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (1)
silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (0)
silasw Put a 1/1 Assassin1 onto the battlefield with Vraska the Unseen
silasw Put a 1/1 Assassin2 onto the battlefield with Vraska the Unseen
silasw Put a 1/1 Assassin3 onto the battlefield with Vraska the Unseen


Jan 9, 2013 -- 9:19PM, morticianjohn wrote:


I also have the same situation against Mqj should be 2-2.




Spoiler: Show
I agree.  I misread Encroach and thought it discarded a card that was "not a basic land" instead of a "nonbasic land."
new score
mqj - 2
morticianjohn - 2


Flag verdek January 10, 2013 12:12 AM PST
I understand it doesn't have haste, but Nether Spirit comes back every upkeep if it's the only creature in the graveyard. Which it will be. With that it mind, and keeping in mind it doesn't have haste, I keep Vraska perma locked at a non-ultimate value. ALSO, that's me cracking the lotus to play the spirit, not using Lilli, as that would be ideal playing. 
Flag Rush_Clasic January 10, 2013 11:35 AM PST
Stupid Shrieking Affliction . Next vanilla round I'm running Plains , Erase , Erase !

When does the poll close, Shrimp? And does anyone have more proposals for cards to ban in the super-life format other than the two I already named?
Flag razorborne January 10, 2013 1:18 PM PST

Jan 10, 2013 -- 11:35AM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

Stupid Shrieking Affliction . Next vanilla round I'm running Plains , Erase , Erase !

When does the poll close, Shrimp? And does anyone have more proposals for cards to ban in the super-life format other than the two I already named?



if so you should probably PM them to Shrimp instead of posting them in the thread where everyone can see your tech if it doesn't get banned.

 

Flag razorborne January 11, 2013 7:56 PM PST
so there's a discrepancy on deck 9 v. deck 12/13. I believe whoever graded 12/13 forgot that, if 9 duresses their liliana, they can just hardcast spirit with the lotus, leading to them 6-0ing. if anyone believes this is incorrect for some reason, feel free to correct me.

however, deck 6 v. deck 3 seems wrong to me. neither can stop the other, and the matchup doesn't look at first glance like the type where whoever moves first loses, so 2-2 doesn't make much sense to me. but there's a bunch of fiddly numbers and I don't feel like doing the math.



PS: also, wooh, +55 ELO.
Flag Nyktos January 11, 2013 7:59 PM PST
You can Duress the Lotus?
Flag razorborne January 11, 2013 8:01 PM PST

Jan 11, 2013 -- 7:59PM, Nyktos wrote:

You can Duress the Lotus?



oh yeah. in that case, 3-3 was correct. I'll fix it.

 

Flag verdek January 11, 2013 9:55 PM PST

Jan 11, 2013 -- 8:01PM, razorborne wrote:

Jan 11, 2013 -- 7:59PM, Nyktos wrote:

You can Duress the Lotus?



oh yeah. in that case, 3-3 was correct. I'll fix it.

 


Made the same mistake at first. Changed it later.

Flag Caldera42 January 13, 2013 4:42 PM PST
I should make an MUP and abstain from further matches in order to remain on top of the ladder forever
Flag razorborne January 14, 2013 1:37 PM PST
so has next round started/has razorborne won/is razorborne the greatest/yes

 
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 16, 2013 4:35 AM PST
yes

I TRUST MY ENTHUSIASM FOR THREE CARD MAGIC IS PALPABLE 
Flag razorborne January 18, 2013 2:24 PM PST
hey shrimp did you get my message? I need an answer.

 
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 18, 2013 5:38 PM PST
yep ok its banned
Flag verdek January 19, 2013 5:41 PM PST

Jan 18, 2013 -- 5:38PM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:

yep ok its banned


What's banned?
Edit: Ahh. Nevermind. Why ban Nexus? 

Flag Purple_Shrimp January 19, 2013 6:58 PM PST

Jan 19, 2013 -- 5:41PM, verdek wrote:


Edit: Ahh. Nevermind. Why ban Nexus? 



razorborne's word is law

Flag Rush_Clasic January 20, 2013 10:27 PM PST

Jan 19, 2013 -- 5:41PM, verdek wrote:

Jan 18, 2013 -- 5:38PM, Purple_Shrimp wrote:

yep ok its banned


What's banned?
Edit: Ahh. Nevermind. Why ban Nexus? 


It's format warping. A ton of decks can play Inkmoth for practically free and it ruins the "you have time to do stuff" feel of the format. I disagreed at first, but I agree with it now, with the understanding that all the other poison cards are allowed.

Flag thatmarkguy January 21, 2013 10:14 AM PST
Sadly, I was ready to deal with the expected threat of Inkmoth (thanks, Wasteland !) .  With Inkmoth gone the threats are now less predictable and more scattershot.
Flag Rush_Clasic January 21, 2013 11:58 AM PST
Spread that sheet!

Flag verdek January 21, 2013 7:49 PM PST
w00t! WAITING. I LOVE IT.
Flag razorborne January 21, 2013 8:26 PM PST

Jan 21, 2013 -- 10:14AM, thatmarkguy wrote:

Sadly, I was ready to deal with the expected threat of Inkmoth (thanks, Wasteland !) .  With Inkmoth gone the threats are now less predictable and more scattershot.



this is why I sent Shrimp the PM at the start of the round. I figured it would be important to know early.

 

Flag Gathered January 22, 2013 10:46 AM PST
I THE (Third from being) LOWEST HAVE RETURNED, FEAR FROM MY LOWNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I hopefully won't be as bad anymore, but I think I probably will  
Flag Just_a_cleric January 22, 2013 11:10 AM PST
Even I submitted a deck this time, though it's just the pet deck, since I'm curious how many storage lands would be used.
Flag Rush_Clasic January 23, 2013 10:13 AM PST
My deck revolves around in the Night. Or maybe I just wanted to seem momentarily clever.
Flag verdek January 23, 2013 4:30 PM PST
*taps toes patiently* Where is my spreadsheet?
Flag Nyktos January 24, 2013 1:00 PM PST
I can't remember if I submitted. I think I didn't. Oh well.
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 24, 2013 4:50 PM PST
ok fine
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 24, 2013 5:01 PM PST
JUST KIDDING ITS NOT READY YET BUT IM MAKING IT AS WE SPEAK
Flag Purple_Shrimp January 24, 2013 6:26 PM PST
Flag razorborne January 24, 2013 6:37 PM PST
jesus dudes 3-way tie for 1st? what is this. hi, mqj and fffffffffffffffancrazy (I don't remember how many fs there are)

 
Flag Caldera42 January 24, 2013 6:47 PM PST
looks like I am winning the "best deck name" category
Flag Rush_Clasic January 24, 2013 7:31 PM PST
I was all ready to go Pithing Needle until Inkmoth got banned. Dammit!
Flag razorborne January 24, 2013 7:36 PM PST

Jan 24, 2013 -- 7:31PM, Rush_Clasic wrote:

I was all ready to go Pithing Needle until Inkmoth got banned. Dammit!



was my plan all along!

 

Flag Kenku January 24, 2013 9:36 PM PST
*sigh* another interested idea, that utterly failed....
Flag mqj January 24, 2013 11:54 PM PST

Entered my scores.
Spoiler: Show

Google docs

---===---

banned cards

Barren Glory
Blackmail
Chancellor of the Annex
Channel
Flash
Foil
Force of Will
Ghost Quarter
Inquisition of Kozilek
Laboratory Maniac
Leyline of Anticipation
Lodestone Golem
Phyrexian Revoker
Shelldock Isle
Show and Tell
Strip Mine
Thoughtseize

---===---

format:

Players begin the game with 10^(10^100) life.

Additional bans: Test of Endurance ; Felidar Sovereign ; Inkmoth Nexus

---===---
1. Purple_Shrimp
Blighted Agent
Mox Sapphire
Wasteland
a blight to remember.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
Purple_Shrimp - 0

---===---

2. silasw
Ensnaring Bridge
Mishra's Workshop
Scalding Tongs
Classic.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

Vraska the Unseen can first destroy Scalding Tongs .

mqj - 6
silasw - 0

---===---

3. verdek
Blightsteel Colossus
Icatian Store
Icatian Store
Sick.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
verdek - 0

---===---

4. Rush_Clasic
Black Lotus
Virulent Sliver
Virulent Sliver
i_ate_his_sliver_with_some_fava_beans.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
Rush_Clasic - 0

Spoiler: Show

Turn 1
Rush_Clasic Cast Black Lotus
Rush_Clasic Sacrifice Black Lotus
Rush_Clasic Cast Virulent Sliver
Rush_Clasic Cast Virulent Sliver
mqj Cast Black Lotus
mqj Sacrifice Black Lotus
mqj Cast Black Lotus
mqj Sacrifice Black Lotus
mqj Cast Vraska the Unseen
mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (1)
mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (2)
mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (3)
mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (4)
mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (5)
mqj Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (4)
mqj Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (3)
mqj Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (2)
Rush_Clasic Virulent Sliver Dies

Turn 2
If Virulent Sliver attacks Vraska the Unseen , then Vraska the Unseen goes to (1) loyalty and can survive.
If Virulent Sliver attacks player, then Vraska the Unseen can go to (4) loyalty and can destroy Virulent Sliver .

---===---

5. razorborne
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
pleaserunwastelands.dec

7. Ffancrzy
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
Stop Assassinate andListen.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 2
razorborne - 2

mqj - 2
Ffancrzy - 2

---===---

8. Kenku
Azor's Elocutors
Energy Field
Sand Silos

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
Kenku - 0

---===---

9. Gathered
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Icatian Store
Platinum Angel

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
Gathered - 0

---===---

10. DARK_DRAC0
Black Lotus
Darksteel Reactor
Desert
buildabetterwincon.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
DARK_DRAC0 - 0

---===---

11. Caldera42
Crack the Earth
Taiga
Thallid
skrillex can't go fishing cuz he drops the bass dot dec.dec

12. Just_a_cleric
Crack the Earth
Taiga
Thallid

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 2
Caldera42 - 2

mqj - 2
Just_a_cleric - 2

---===---

13. morticianjohn
Glistener Elf
Llanowar Reborn
Rancor
more beats less math.dec

6. mqj
Black Lotus
Black Lotus
Vraska the Unseen
googolplex_life.dec

mqj - 6
morticianjohn - 0

Flag DARK_DRAC0 January 25, 2013 5:53 AM PST
this will teach me to come back and check ban list updates before the submissions close. Desert seemed ideal to stop inkmoth nexus, glistener elf, and virtulent sliver, but not worth it if no one can run inkmoth.
Flag Just_a_cleric January 25, 2013 6:16 AM PST
Hey, Caldera...that's my pet deck!
Flag Gathered January 25, 2013 8:45 AM PST
YOU MAY HAVE BEAT ME THIS TIME, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...

I am still bad, big surprise Surprised 
Flag verdek January 25, 2013 8:50 AM PST
It's all good. I did pretty poorly this round too. It happens. Should have stuck with my instincts and gone for something more control-y.
Flag Caldera42 January 25, 2013 10:18 AM PST

Jan 25, 2013 -- 6:16AM, Just_a_cleric wrote:

Hey, Caldera...that's my pet deck!




Spoiler: Show

secretly i might have stolen it
Flag Rush_Clasic January 30, 2013 10:35 AM PST
So, when's the next round due by?
Flag razorborne January 30, 2013 3:54 PM PST
I think it may be time for someone else to take the reins.

...not it.

 
Flag Rush_Clasic January 31, 2013 12:00 PM PST
Gimme a day to learn google doc spreadsheet. Because, like, I don't do enough things on the forum or something.
Flag verdek February 4, 2013 5:34 AM PST
So, did this thread just... Die?
Flag Rush_Clasic February 5, 2013 1:17 PM PST
If no one has any objections...
If people are willing to give me a chance...
If no one else is willing to host it...

I'll take over running 3CM and start the next round soonish. But I need to hear responses to soothe my hijacking soul. 
Flag razorborne February 5, 2013 3:05 PM PST
yeah Shrimp is clearly gonzo

 
Flag Ffancrzy February 5, 2013 9:55 PM PST
Yea Rush, feel free to start it up, Shrimp probably had some IRL stuff so might as well keep the game alive :D
Flag Rush_Clasic February 6, 2013 1:24 AM PST
Hopefully, I've figured out everything I need to in regards to the spreadsheet. If so, I'll open up the next round tomorrow.
Flag Rush_Clasic February 6, 2013 2:11 PM PST
In case you missed it, we're starting with a new thread. See ya there!
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