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wow yeah researching this format was awful. I got down some random obvious ideas, compared them, found the best, and threw it in without really exploring much of anything. kudos to those of you who found something actually good. I'm surprised not to see more path decks. I was really planning around path-plains-plated sliver being a real thing.
Ouch. That's gonna leave a mark.
I gambled that there would be more 1CMC threats in this format than 2CMC threats (I could have run Supply // Demand
of the three decks graded so far, I'm winning!
no one else grade any other decks.
Entered my scores.
Spoiler: Show Google docs ---===--- banned cards Barren Glory Blackmail Chancellor of the Annex Channel Flash Foil Force of Will Ghost Quarter Inquisition of Kozilek Laboratory Maniac Leyline of Anticipation Lodestone Golem Phyrexian Revoker Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Strip Mine Thoughtseize Wasteland ---===--- format: All cards in your deck must begin with the same letter. Also The Rack ---===--- 1. Purple_Shrimp Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Thallid Tinder Farm totally tubular.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec Maze of Ith mqj - 6 Purple_Shrimp - 0 Spoiler: Show Turn 1 Purple_Shrimp Play Tinder Farm mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Turn 2 Purple_Shrimp Cast Thallid mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 3 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Sacrifice Purple_Shrimp Cast Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 4 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 5 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Remove Purple_Shrimp Remove Purple_Shrimp Remove Purple_Shrimp Put a 1/1 Saproling1 onto the battlefield with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 6 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 16) mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 7 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 14) mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 8 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Remove Purple_Shrimp Remove Purple_Shrimp Remove Purple_Shrimp Put a 1/1 Saproling2 onto the battlefield with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 12) mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 9 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 10) Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (20, 9) mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 10 Purple_Shrimp Put a spore counter on Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Purple_Shrimp Attack with Thallid Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (20, 7) Purple_Shrimp Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (20, 6) mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Cast Magmatic Force ---===--- 2. Caldera42 Seachrome Coast Sea's Claim Student of Warfare What manner of doting patriarch consumes the fried potatoes belonging to his female progeny & disdains to match her gaze?.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec Student of Warfare Caldera42 - 6 mqj - 0 Spoiler: Show Caldera42 on the play Turn 1 Caldera42 Play Seachrome Coast Caldera42 Cast Student of Warfare mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Turn 2 Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 3 Caldera42 Cast Sea's Claim Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 4 Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 5 Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 6 Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 7 Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 8 Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar ---===--- mqj on the Play Turn 1 mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Play Seachrome Coast Caldera42 Cast Student of Warfare Turn 2 mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Cast Sea's Claim Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 3 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 4 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 5 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 6 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 7 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 8 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare Caldera42 Attack with Student of Warfare Turn 9 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Caldera42 Put a level counter on Student of Warfare ---===--- 3. verdek Icatian Store Iona, Shield of Emeria Island Sanctuary I c what u did there.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec Iona, Shield of Emeria mqj - 6 verdek - 0 Spoiler: Show Turn 1 verdek Play Icatian Store mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Turn 2 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 3 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 4 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 5 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 6 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 7 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 8 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 9 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 10 verdek Put a storage counter on Icatian Store mqj Cast Magmatic Force ---===--- 4. silasw Mox Jet Mishra's Factory Mesmeric Fiend Mesmerry Christmas.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec silasw - 6 mqj - 0 ---===--- 5. DARK_DRAC0 Mishra's Workshop Mox Ruby Moltensteel Dragon Mishra 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec mqj - 6 DARK_DRAC0 - 0 ---===--- 7. morticianjohn Cry of Contrition Chronomaton Caves of Koilos MOAR C'S PLEASE!.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec mqj - 2 morticianjohn - 2 ---===--- 8. thatmarkguy Disrupting Shoal Dryad Arbor Stand // Deliver ISaidIdUseASplitCard.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec mqj - 6 thatmarkguy - 0 ---===--- 9. tmich Chalice of the Void Chronomaton City of Traitors 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec mqj - 6 tmich - 0 ---===--- 10. razorborne Sandstone Needle Steel Overseer Stigma Lasher 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec If razorborne puts seven +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer If razorborne puts two +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer If razorborne puts one +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer mqj - 6 razorborne - 0 Spoiler: Show If razorborne puts two +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer Turn 1 razorborne Play Sandstone Needle mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Turn 2 razorborne Cast Steel Overseer mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 3 razorborne Sacrifice razorborne Cast Stigma Lasher razorborne Put a +1/+1 counter on Steel Overseer mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 4 razorborne Put a +1/+1 counter on Steel Overseer mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 5 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 6 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 7 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 8 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 9 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 10 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Cast Magmatic Force ---===--- If razorborne puts one +1/+1 counters on Steel Overseer Turn 1 razorborne Play Sandstone Needle mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Turn 2 razorborne Cast Steel Overseer mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 3 razorborne Sacrifice razorborne Cast Stigma Lasher razorborne Put a +1/+1 counter on Steel Overseer mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 4 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 5 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 6 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 7 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 8 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 9 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 10 razorborne Attack with Steel Overseer razorborne Attack with Stigma Lasher mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Cast Magmatic Force ---===--- 11. Ffancrzy Temple Garden Thallid Thornscape Apprentice An old standby.dec 6. mqj Maze of Ith Mercadian Bazaar Magmatic Force all_start_same_letter.dec Ffancrzy on the play: Thallid mqj on the play: Magmatic Force mqj - 3 Ffancrzy - 3 Spoiler: Show Ffancrzy on the Play Turn 1 Ffancrzy Play Temple Garden Ffancrzy Pay 2 life to Temple Garden Ffancrzy Cast Thallid mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Turn 2 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Cast Thornscape Apprentice Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 3 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 4 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling1 onto the battlefield with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 5 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 15) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 6 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 13) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 7 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling2 onto the battlefield with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 11) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 8 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 9) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 8) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 9 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 6) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 5) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Turn 10 Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling3 onto the battlefield with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 3) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 2) Ffancrzy Block with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith mqj Cast Magmatic Force Turn 11 mqj Deal 3 damage Magmatic Force Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Thornscape Apprentice mqj Tap Magmatic Force Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 1) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 0) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling3; deal 1 damage; (18, -1) mqj Block with Maze of Ith ---===--- mqj on the Play Turn 1 mqj Play Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Play Temple Garden Ffancrzy Pay 2 life to Temple Garden Ffancrzy Cast Thallid Turn 2 mqj Play Maze of Ith mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Cast Thornscape Apprentice Turn 3 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 4 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling1 onto the battlefield with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 5 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 16) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 6 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 14) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 7 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Remove Ffancrzy Put a 1/1 Saproling2 onto the battlefield with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 12) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 8 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 10) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 9) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 9 mqj Put a storage counter on Mercadian Bazaar Ffancrzy Put a spore counter on Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling1; deal 1 damage; (18, 7) Ffancrzy Attack with 1/1 Saproling2; deal 1 damage; (18, 6) Ffancrzy Attack with Thornscape Apprentice mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 10 mqj Cast Magmatic Force Ffancrzy "Put a spore counter on Thallid mqj Magmatic Force Ffancrzy Thallid mqj Tap Magmatic Force Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid Ffancrzy Attack with Thallid mqj Block with Maze of Ith Turn 11 mqj Magmatic Force Ffancrzy Thornscape Apprentice
guys you were supposed to play bouncelands and depletion lands come on
Thanks to whomever scored my games. I went through and scored my games then compared them to what was already there and I found some discrepancies but of course all of the issues were things that I overlooked and mistakes that I made so whomever scored my games thanks, I would have gotten it wrong.
Too lazy to come up with decks.
I did 3CM here before Caldera started it, and did all the grading. It comes pretty easily. I only play occasionally, when I have a deck I like.
I thought I had sent Shrimp Badlands
Part of why I wanted Black Lotus out of circulation. I imagine a great deal of players would have submitted something like Black Lotus - Bitterblossom - SomeOtherBThingLikeBeckonApparitionOrBogRatsOrBileUrchinOrBumpInTheNight .
Out of curiosity: in the discussion before the format was finalized and it was thought that Loti and dupes would be allowed, people were talking about having decks that could beat the Black Lotus decks, even the Double-Black-Lotus decks. What were the nature of those decks? I didn't see anything in this format that could stop an on-the-play-turn-1 Lotus (Artifact Blast and Simian Spirit Guide starting with different letters; there being no 0-cost blue card starting with D to pair with Disrupting Shoal) and once a Lotus or two is down there are so many different ways that player could go that I can hardly imagine a deck that is able to deal with them all.
If lotus were legal, the best deck is probably Lotus-Badlands- Bloodline Keeper
It gets some obscene number of points. Looks like 57. It even 4-1s BSA.
I keep forgetting Shrimp has more Byzantine rules than Final Fantasy Tactics' law system.
Come to think of it, "Byzantine" also begins with a B.
Banlist update? The OP mentions nothing of The Rack / Shrieking Affliction ban discussion that I've seen bandied about. There's been a little discussion about unbanning Phyrexian Revoker or Wasteland. I think a concrete restatement of current banlist would help (and any potential policy about future banlist change methods?)
yes
with that said, I'm going to test out unbanning wasteland
The poll for next round is up. seeing as I was a bit late to get it posted, I'll run it until grading for this round has finished
I hardly see the point of that fifth option. Creature cards in the deck must be 1/1? Doesn't that largely come down to "Vanilla, but Thalia and Vampire Hexmage are banned"? I mean, half the vanilla decks don't even use any creature cards, and among those that do, Dryad Arbor, Chronomaton, and Memnite are three of the most popular creatures.
the poll option for the haiku format is misleading. You can name your deck whatever you want, but the point is the *cards* in your deck must form a haiku.
And by that, strictly meaning, "Your deck must consist of two cards whose names are five syllables and one card whose name is seven syllables"?
It might be early to discuss this, but since it looks like it's winning rather handily, we should consider some bannings for the super-big-life-total format. For starters:
Test of Endurance After that, there are a number of cards like these that could be banned, but they aren't as outright, so I'm not sure about throwing the ax at them. There are other cards I think might warp the format, but since I'm so unsure, I'd rather not discuss them and spoil the whole format. It looks really fun, though. Had I investigated earlier, I would have voted for it long ago.
I demand spreadsheets. Or pudding. Definitely one of the two.
Entered my scores. Corrected row#1 1. Purple_Shrimp versus 9. mqj from 1 to 3. Spoiler: Show Google docs ---===--- banned cards Barren Glory Blackmail Chancellor of the Annex Channel Flash Foil Force of Will Ghost Quarter Inquisition of Kozilek Laboratory Maniac Leyline of Anticipation Lodestone Golem Phyrexian Revoker Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Strip Mine Thoughtseize ---===--- format: Vanilla ---===--- 1. Purple_Shrimp Mox Pearl Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Wasteland a chip off the old mox.dec 2. Nyktos Mox Pearl Thalia, Guardian of Thraben Wasteland 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec First turn Thanks, Guardian of Thraben prevents Black Lotus Duress mqj - 3 Purple_Shrimp - 3 mqj - 3 Nyktos - 3 ---===--- 3. Caldera42 Anvil of Bogardan Mishra's Workshop The Rack Up and over, we go through the wave and undertow I will float until I learn how to swim.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec mqj - 3 Caldera42 - 3 ---===--- 4. razorborne Badlands Shrieking Affliction Stromkirk Noble beatsbaddecks.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec razorborne - 4 mqj - 1 ---===--- 5. Rush_Clasic Glistener Elf Pendelhaven Pithing Needle 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec Rush_Clasic - 6 mqj - 0 ---===--- 6. DARK_DRAC0 Emrakul, the Aeons Torn Fiery Temper Lion's Eye Diamond sauron's revenge.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec mqj - 3 DARK_DRAC0 - 3 ---===--- 7. morticianjohn Diregraf Ghoul Encroach Swamp 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec morticianjohn - 4 mqj - 1 ---===--- 8. silasw Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen cookiecutter.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec mqj - 3 silasw - 3 ---===--- 10. tmich Chronomaton Chronomaton City of Traitors 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec tmich - 6 mqj - 0 ---===--- 11. thatmarkguy Ensnaring Bridge Mishra's Workshop Scalding Tongs BackToBridgeTongs.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec mqj on the play, Duress thatmarkguy on the play, if cast Ensnaring Bridge thatmarkguy on the play, if cast Scalding Tongs thatmarkguy must cast Ensnaring Bridge mqj - 4 thatmarkguy - 1 ---===--- 12. Ffancrzy Black Lotus Liliana of the Veil Nether Spirit 13. verdek Black Lotus Liliana of the Veil Nether Spirit Mhmm.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec Ffancrzy - 6 mqj - 0 verdek - 6 mqj - 0 ---===--- 14. Mage24365 Artifact Blast Dryad Arbor Simian Spirit Guide dammitthiswasinontime.dec 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec Mage24365 - 6 mqj - 0 mqj, you and I split. If you ever cast Duress or unkicked Gatekeeper, my Elf outraces you. If I ever cast Elf, you kick Gatekeeper and kill it. Shrimp, you and I should be 3 - 3. When you're on the play, you cast Thalia, preventing my Pithing Needle, then Wasteland away Pendelhaven and outrace me. But when I'm on the play, I start with Needle naming Wasteland, then Elf + Pendelhaven outrace you (first strike won't save you against a 2/3). Same goes for my match-up with Nyktos. DARK_DRAC0's deck was sorta cool. Is that something that's been around before? Slow but nifty. Mage24365, you didn't heed the Wasteland
deck 4 v deck 1 (was 6-0, should be 4-1)
on the play, deck 1 dumps their hand. deck 4 can't play affliction due to Thalia, so it just plays Noble and passes. if deck 1 tries to race, deck 4 wins. if deck 1 defends, deck 4 can't swing or Thalia eats Noble and starts swinging. still though 59 points. razorborne2gud.
I believe my matchup against the Vraska deck should be 4-1 in my favor, because when I'm on the draw, every two turns his Vraska gets plus 2, but my Nether Spirit always hits it for 2 too.
Spoiler: Show 5. Rush_Clasic Glistener Elf Pendelhaven Pithing Needle 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec I agree. I conflated Pithing Needle new score mqj - 2 Rush_Clasic - 2
Nether Spirit I have not changed your scores. Spoiler: Show Turn 1 silasw Cast Black Lotus silasw Sacrifice Black Lotus silasw Cast Black Lotus silasw Sacrifice Black Lotus silasw Cast Vraska the Unseen silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (1) silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (2) silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (3) silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (4) silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (5) silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (6) Ffancrzy Cast Black Lotus Ffancrzy Sacrifice Black Lotus Ffancrzy Cast Liliana of the Veil Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (1) Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (2) Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (3) Ffancrzy Put a loyalty counter on Liliana of the Veil (4) Ffancrzy Discard Nether Spirit Turn 2 silasw Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen (7) Ffancrzy Return to the battlefield Nether Spirit Turn 3 silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (6) silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (5) silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (4) silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (3) silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (2) silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (1) silasw Remove a loyalty from Vraska the Unseen (0) silasw Put a 1/1 Assassin1 onto the battlefield with Vraska the Unseen silasw Put a 1/1 Assassin2 onto the battlefield with Vraska the Unseen silasw Put a 1/1 Assassin3 onto the battlefield with Vraska the Unseen
Spoiler: Show 7. morticianjohn Diregraf Ghoul Encroach Swamp 9. mqj Black Lotus Duress Gatekeeper of Malakir vanilla.dec I agree. I misread Encroach new score mqj - 2 morticianjohn - 2
I understand it doesn't have haste, but Nether Spirit comes back every upkeep if it's the only creature in the graveyard. Which it will be. With that it mind, and keeping in mind it doesn't have haste, I keep Vraska perma locked at a non-ultimate value. ALSO, that's me cracking the lotus to play the spirit, not using Lilli, as that would be ideal playing.
Stupid Shrieking Affliction
When does the poll close, Shrimp? And does anyone have more proposals for cards to ban in the super-life format other than the two I already named?
so there's a discrepancy on deck 9 v. deck 12/13. I believe whoever graded 12/13 forgot that, if 9 duresses their liliana, they can just hardcast spirit with the lotus, leading to them 6-0ing. if anyone believes this is incorrect for some reason, feel free to correct me.
however, deck 6 v. deck 3 seems wrong to me. neither can stop the other, and the matchup doesn't look at first glance like the type where whoever moves first loses, so 2-2 doesn't make much sense to me. but there's a bunch of fiddly numbers and I don't feel like doing the math. ![]() PS: also, wooh, +55 ELO.
I should make an MUP and abstain from further matches in order to remain on top of the ladder forever
so has next round started/has razorborne won/is razorborne the greatest/yes
yes
I TRUST MY ENTHUSIASM FOR THREE CARD MAGIC IS PALPABLE
Sadly, I was ready to deal with the expected threat of Inkmoth (thanks, Wasteland
I THE (Third from being) LOWEST HAVE RETURNED, FEAR FROM MY LOWNESS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I hopefully won't be as bad anymore, but I think I probably will
Even I submitted a deck this time, though it's just the pet deck, since I'm curious how many storage lands would be used.
My deck revolves around
in the Night. Or maybe I just wanted to seem momentarily clever.
I can't remember if I submitted. I think I didn't. Oh well.
JUST KIDDING ITS NOT READY YET BUT IM MAKING IT AS WE SPEAK
jesus dudes 3-way tie for 1st? what is this. hi, mqj and fffffffffffffffancrazy (I don't remember how many fs there are)
I was all ready to go Pithing Needle
Entered my scores. Spoiler: Show Google docs ---===--- banned cards Barren Glory Blackmail Chancellor of the Annex Channel Flash Foil Force of Will Ghost Quarter Inquisition of Kozilek Laboratory Maniac Leyline of Anticipation Lodestone Golem Phyrexian Revoker Shelldock Isle Show and Tell Strip Mine Thoughtseize ---===--- format: Players begin the game with 10^(10^100) life. Additional bans: Test of Endurance ---===--- 1. Purple_Shrimp Blighted Agent Mox Sapphire Wasteland a blight to remember.dec 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 Purple_Shrimp - 0 ---===--- 2. silasw Ensnaring Bridge Mishra's Workshop Scalding Tongs Classic.dec 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec Vraska the Unseen mqj - 6 silasw - 0 ---===--- 3. verdek Blightsteel Colossus Icatian Store Icatian Store Sick.dec 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 verdek - 0 ---===--- 4. Rush_Clasic Black Lotus Virulent Sliver Virulent Sliver i_ate_his_sliver_with_some_fava_beans.dec 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 Rush_Clasic - 0 Spoiler: Show Turn 1 Rush_Clasic Cast Black Lotus Rush_Clasic Sacrifice Rush_Clasic Cast Virulent Sliver Rush_Clasic Cast Virulent Sliver mqj Cast Black Lotus mqj Sacrifice mqj Cast Black Lotus mqj Sacrifice mqj Cast Vraska the Unseen mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen mqj Put a loyalty counter on Vraska the Unseen mqj Remove mqj Remove mqj Remove Rush_Clasic Virulent Sliver Turn 2 If Virulent Sliver If Virulent Sliver ---===--- 5. razorborne Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen pleaserunwastelands.dec 7. Ffancrzy Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen Stop Assassinate 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 2 razorborne - 2 mqj - 2 Ffancrzy - 2 ---===--- 8. Kenku Azor's Elocutors Energy Field Sand Silos 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 Kenku - 0 ---===--- 9. Gathered Avacyn, Angel of Hope Icatian Store Platinum Angel 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 Gathered - 0 ---===--- 10. DARK_DRAC0 Black Lotus Darksteel Reactor Desert buildabetterwincon.dec 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 DARK_DRAC0 - 0 ---===--- 11. Caldera42 Crack the Earth Taiga Thallid skrillex can't go fishing cuz he drops the bass dot dec.dec 12. Just_a_cleric Crack the Earth Taiga Thallid 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 2 Caldera42 - 2 mqj - 2 Just_a_cleric - 2 ---===--- 13. morticianjohn Glistener Elf Llanowar Reborn Rancor more beats less math.dec 6. mqj Black Lotus Black Lotus Vraska the Unseen googolplex_life.dec mqj - 6 morticianjohn - 0
this will teach me to come back and check ban list updates before the submissions close. Desert seemed ideal to stop inkmoth nexus, glistener elf, and virtulent sliver, but not worth it if no one can run inkmoth.
YOU MAY HAVE BEAT ME THIS TIME, BUT YOU HAVEN'T SEEN THE LAST OF MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee...
I am still bad, big surprise
It's all good. I did pretty poorly this round too. It happens. Should have stuck with my instincts and gone for something more control-y.
secretly i might have stolen it
I think it may be time for someone else to take the reins.
...not it.
Gimme a day to learn google doc spreadsheet. Because, like, I don't do enough things on the forum or something.
If no one has any objections...
If people are willing to give me a chance... If no one else is willing to host it... I'll take over running 3CM and start the next round soonish. But I need to hear responses to soothe my hijacking soul.
Yea Rush, feel free to start it up, Shrimp probably had some IRL stuff so might as well keep the game alive :D
Hopefully, I've figured out everything I need to in regards to the spreadsheet. If so, I'll open up the next round tomorrow.
In case you missed it, we're starting with a new thread. See ya there!
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