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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 4:31PM
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(I'd like to hear the opinions of people who play paper magic) As a player who only plays online, in casual mode, I am wondering what qualifies to being called a "netdecker" (Someone who takes someone elses deck idea and uses it for themselves). I, for instance, use Magic Gatherer when I look for potential cards to add to my deck, and I also heed the comments and their recommendations. For example - I was looking at increasing savagery  in Gatherer to see what the comments and ratings say about it, and if there are better alternatives. Lo and behold someone posts this gem that compliments the sorcery card very well - precursor Golem  . It's too good to pass up; I will add the golem to my deck now. Is this "netdecking"? In my defense, if I would have found the card on my own I still would have added it; the comments just save me time so I don't have to dig so much. What do you think?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 4:33PM
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netdecking generally means "you built a better deck than mine, and I want to be a special little snowflake like everyone else, so I gonna whine about it"
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 4:38PM
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When you copy someone elses deck card for card because you lack confidence in your own deckbuilding skills.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 4:44PM
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there's various schools on netdecking, in varying amounts of severity. but really, there's no one definition. to some, what you do might count. to most, it won't. more importantly, to most reasonable people it won't matter. netdecking is something that gets complained about primarily by worse players, who use it as a psychological defense against losing. your deck isn't "legitimate", and therefore the fact that you beat me doesn't count. it's the same school of thought that leads to people decrying your cards as "broken", which often just means "won the game this time." it's a means of rejecting responsibility for their own losses, so that the only thing that "counts" are their wins. this isn't to say that there are people out there who would rather play a low-powered, unique deck, and they'd often rather play against something of similar power level, because then both decks have a chance to do their things, and you can get cool games where one person puts together their awesome five-card combo while the other tries to race them with their all-bears deck, which can be quite fun for those involved, but unfortunately MtGO's casual room is not a great place to find these games, because the definition of "casual" is quite mercurial, and therefore the odds of you being matched up against someone else at your specific power band is quite low. which means that mature people who actually just prefer to play others at weaker power levels will find other places, either the kitchen table or online with likeminded people they know, leaving for the random matches pretty much only the immature, unreasonable ones who will insist that if your deck is better than their that it's your responsibility to sink to their level. 
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 4:46PM
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OP: You are not a net decker. Gaining wisdom and insight into deck construction should come from every available avenue: local players, personal experience, and on-line articles. If you're looking for inspiration for your own creations, you're not a netdecker. Even if it comes close to a netdeck, if you came about it by your own decisions, it's not netdecking. Now, if you go out looking for a deck to use, instead of making one, then you are a netdecker. You don't care about making your own deck, you just want to win. Obviously, Spikes have no problems with this, but a Johnny would feel diminished by doing this. netdecking generally means "you built a better deck than mine, and I want to be a special little snowflake like everyone else, so I gonna whine about it"
Funny, I've always thought netdeckers were people who thought they were special snowflakes. They want success and respect immediately, and instead of earning it through trial and error, they buy the best deck on the market.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 4:55PM
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its only netdecking if you copy a deck card for card and really the only people who do that dont care about haveing fun they care about wining
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 5:05PM
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its only netdecking if you copy a deck card for card and really the only people who do that dont care about haveing fun they care about wining
This is a pretty good definition, however, it's one thing to copy a casual warp world  decklist and another to copy the top deck in the format. If you're playing casually no one cares where you got your decklist from (although they generally appreciate creativity) but what they don't want to see is that finely tuned tournament caliber decklist that wins almost every game.
There will be times where you create a casual decklist that somehow exceeds your expectations and wins more than it should (maybe you stumble upon a tournament decklist independantly). In those cases recognize the situation and retire the decklist before you lose all of your playmates.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 5:54PM
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its only netdecking if you copy a deck card for card and really the only people who do that dont care about haveing fun they care about wining
bullshit.
players can find enjoyment from whatever things entertain them. I enjoy playing more than building decks, so I will often borrow a friend's deck to play against them, or quickly put together a list I find online when a friend wants a game. the assertion that I don't care about having fun, in purely casual games, is incorrect and, quite frankly, asinine.
120.6. Some effects replace card draws.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 6:06PM
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netdecking generally means "you built a better deck than mine, and I want to be a special little snowflake like everyone else, so I gonna whine about it"
its only netdecking if you copy a deck card for card and really the only people who do that dont care about haveing fun they care about wining
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InQuest Magazine (I think it was InQuest) had an oversized Chaos Orb which I totally rooked someone into allowing into a (non-sanctioned) game.
I had a proxy card that was a Mountain with "Chaos Orb" written on it. When I played it, my opponent cried foul:
Him: "WTF? a Proxy? no-one said anything about Proxies. Do you even own an actual Chaos Orb?"
Me: "Yes, but I thought it would be better to use a Proxy."
Him: "No way. If you're going to put a Chaos Orb in your deck you have to use your actual Chaos Orb."
Me: "*Sigh*. Okay."
I pulled out this huge Chaos Orb and placed it on the table. He tried to cry foul again but everyone else said he insisted I use my actual Chaos Orb and that was my actual Chaos Orb. I used it, flipped it and wiped most of his board.
Unsurprisingly, that only worked once and only because everyone present thought it was hilarious. 
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Hi guys! So, I'm a sort of returning player to Magic. I say sort of because as a child I had two main TCG's I liked. Yu-Gi-Oh, and Pokemon. Some of my friends branched off in to Magic, and I bought two pre-made decks just to kind of fit in. Like I said, Yu-Gi-Oh and Pokemon were what I really knew how to play. I have a extensive knowledge of deck building in those two TCG's. However, as far as Magic is concerned, I only ever used those two pre made decks. I know how the game is played, and I know general things, but now I want to get in the game for real. I want to begin playing it as a regular. My question is, are all cards ever released from the time of the inception of this game until present day fair game in a deck? Or are there special rules? Are some cards forbidden or restricted? Thanks guys, and I will gladly accept ANY help lol. 
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9 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 6:25PM
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The definition is VERY vague, but rest assured, you're very far from what most would consider netdecking, you didnt seek out a decklist to make your own, you gathered information on gatherer....... OHHHH!!!! Just like you could have gotten that same information from a friend or an adversary while playing a game.
Netdeckers in my opinions are people that play decks that they didnt put a single thought in, they just went on the internet, bought XYZ cards and now are playing it agaisnt you, usually winning more than you do since the deck was thought over by hundreds/thousands of players compared to your own creation that was made by you primary and maybe with advices from a few friends. The wits and knowledge of 1000 people is superior to the wit and knowledge of 1-5 people.
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