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8 months ago ::
Sep 28, 2012 - 11:14AM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Making Magic, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 1:12AM
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I'm happy I started with Selesnya because its design was much like the guild itself—pleasant and non-threatening.
Yeah right. Seems someone is brainwashed already:
they believe that by silencing the consciousness of the individual, they can become aware of the murmurings of the Conclave, a group of dryads who serve as the spiritual transmitters of Mat'Selesnya's consciousness. The guild's goal is to subsume the identities of individual members, transforming them into instruments of the Conclave.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 4:39AM
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I went back and read all the original Ravnica Guild articles, and they were a really good read. This one though, I felt it really had nothing new to say. I know you can't do the same color pie articles again, but I feel this kinda article doesnt have enough meat for one week.
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Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.
The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.
I hope you all feel really smart now. 
This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"
I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.
Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.
I wish more girls play magic cards...
Have you considered assassinating Kevin?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 4:52AM
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Q: What's the difference between green and white? A: Really though, if you wanted to have multicoloured cards that felt both green and white, you'd have to delve into some of white's control mechanics, which definitely could have fit Selesnya's flavour of brainwashery. The fact you didn't is kind of a shame, honestly. OK, you did with Selesnya Charm  , but other than that y'alls was just fartin' around. A lot of the trad-multi Selesnya cards definitely feel multicolour for its own sake.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 6:05AM
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I agree. The Vows from Commander (e.g., Vow of Wildness  ) or a modification of Bonds of Faith  would better fit the bill.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 7:12AM
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"Love and compassion" such a nice title to represent green and white. Q: What's the difference between green and white?
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Really though, if you wanted to have multicoloured cards that felt both green and white, you'd have to delve into some of white's control mechanics, which definitely could have fit Selesnya's flavour of brainwashery. The fact you didn't is kind of a shame, honestly. OK, you did with Selesnya Charm , but other than that y'alls was just fartin' around. A lot of the trad-multi Selesnya cards definitely feel multicolour for its own sake.
There's more to Selesnya than the brain-washing subtheme. Not sure if you mean control strategies or gaining control of creatures. Either way, such abilities would be stepping on the toes of the other guilds. Between the Dimir, Azorius, Izzet, Orzhov and Simic, I feel it likely we'll get plenty of control oriented guilds. We don't need anymore. Simic had the creature stealing theme in the last ravnica block. Wouldn't surprise me to see that come back for them. Why waste it on Green/white when Blue has much, much stronger creature gaining abilities than white?
Besides, if you put white control oriented cards on green sized creatures what's seperating it from just being big white creatures?
I went back and read all the original Ravnica Guild articles, and they were a really good read. This one though, I felt it really had nothing new to say. I know you can't do the same color pie articles again, but I feel this kinda article doesnt have enough meat for one week.
Agreed. I personally would have preferred to hear more on color philosophy. At least partially.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 8:11AM
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There's more to Selesnya than the brain-washing subtheme.
But the brain-washing subtheme isn't there in the cards. There is- or there should be- more to Selesnya than 'creatures out the wing-wang', but you wouldn't know it.
Not sure if you mean control strategies or gaining control of creatures. Either way, such abilities would be stepping on the toes of the other guilds. Between the Dimir, Azorius, Izzet, Orzhov and Simic, I feel it likely we'll get plenty of control oriented guilds. We don't need anymore.
I was talking about control strategies rather than gaining control of creatures, yeah. And I don't think the Izzet and Simic, at least, are just about control. What I'm saying is that Selesnyan white could have done with a minor control theme to separate it from Selesnyan green. Obviously not too much or you'd be missing the point of it being a single guild. But having them too similar means you miss the point of having it be two colours in the first place.
Besides, if you put white control oriented cards on green sized creatures what's seperating it from just being big white creatures?
What's stopping Armada Wurm  or Loxodon Smiter  or Risen Sanctuary  from just being big ol' monogreen creatures? Not much.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 9:28AM
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Besides, if you put white control oriented cards on green sized creatures what's seperating it from just being big white creatures?
What's stopping Armada Wurm or Loxodon Smiter or Risen Sanctuary from just being big ol' monogreen creatures? Not much.
One colourless mana in the mana cost.
Yes, I agree this isn't the best way to do gold design.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 10:12AM
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Besides, if you put white control oriented cards on green sized creatures what's seperating it from just being big white creatures?
What's stopping Armada Wurm or Loxodon Smiter or Risen Sanctuary from just being big ol' monogreen creatures? Not much.
One colourless mana in the mana cost.
Yes, I agree this isn't the best way to do gold design.
You mean "colored" right?
One could argue that making a couple of big creatures (especially if they're efficiently costed) is green and white. (White makes tokens better than green; green gets bigger creatures than white.)
Unfortunately, as everyone knows, one color always seems to be second at what the other is first, so Worldspine Wurm  , Feed the Pack  and even Parallel Lives  demonstrate green also gets away with making multiple tokens easily.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 01, 2012 - 10:17AM
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I totally agree that there are several WG selesnya cards which could easily have just been mono green and that's really quite a shame. We expect better.
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