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I was trying to take the Elf-Wave deck idea and try and migrate it forward to stick around for RtR. This is my preliminary list, but I am certainly open to changing things that need to be changed.

Creatures:
4 Arbor Elf
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Elvish Archdruid
3 Yeva, Nature's Herald
2 Worldspine Wurm
4 Village Bell-Ringer
4 Avacyn's Pilgrim
2 Craterhoof Behemoth
2 Mwonvuli Beast Tracker
2 Loxodon Smiter  

Spells:
3 Primal Surge
3 Collective Blessing

Lands:
2 Grove of the Guardian
4 Temple Garden
4 Sunpetal Grove
10 Forest
3 Plains


The deck lost Genesis Wave, but it still have Primal Surge, which can do work on its own, since it is by itself the only spell that would stop a surge. I amy up the number of Craterhoof's, since they are awesome, and can be their own win-condition. Worldspine Wurm was my original reason for trying to put this list together, but as I looked at it, it does seem pretty nice, especially if they fail to kill your mana dorks by T3 r 4, becasue if you can pop out a Collective Blessing then your creatures should all be safe from getting killed by most spells.

You are aware that the ONLY creature that Mwonvuli Beast Tracker can tutor up is Worldspine Wurm yes?

It cannot fetch you Craterhoof Behemoth as that only grants trample with its ETB it doesnt have it as a static effect

-1 Primal Surge, -2 Worldspine Wurm, -2 Muwhkjhas Beast Tracker, -1 Collective Blessing, -1 Yeva,  + some number of Thragtusk, + some number of lands (like 2), + some number of Centaur Healer, +1 Craterhoof Behemoth

If you want to play a 10+ mana spell EVER, you will need 25 lands no matter how much ramp you have (unless every non-10 mana spell ramps you)

Sep 28, 2012 -- 6:07AM, Wynzerman wrote:

Honestly, this deck is going a long way to do something relatively simple. I think preboard there isn't a need for many threats other than Worldspine Wurm , and the rest of the deck should involve acceleration, removal and card economy.

61 Cards
3 x Worldspine Wurm
4 x Gatecreeper Vine
4 x Elvish Visionary
2 x Tree of Redemption

4 x Abundant Growth
4 x Mana Bloom
4 x Bramblecrush
2 x Crushing Vines
3 x Oblivion Ring
2 x Pacifism
2 x Terminus
1 x Cyclonic Rift

2 x Staff of Nin

4 x Temple Garden
2 x Glacial Fortress
3 x Sunpetal Grove
8 x Forest
4 x Ghost Quarter
2 x Grove of the Guardian
1 x Gavony Township


Sideboard a bunch of removal ( Detention Sphere , Silent Departure , Devastation Tide , Cyclonic Rift ), spare wincons, fogs etc. Play to card economy, sandbag and remove as needed. It's a fairly simplistic engine.

This is certainly a pretty solid list, but it is so far from what I originally wanted to do that I don't really want to even try it. The original idea is to potentially drop a solid portion of my deck on T4. If the wipe the board, well, that sucks, but it will still be fun to do it, and it will work a few times the way I want, which is the plan. This is more of a control aspect, which could work to get out Worldspine, but ti will take you about 8+ turns to do so, since there isn't any real ramp. Again not a bad idea, but this list is just vastly different than my original elf ramp that I can't really//don't want to do it until I test the elf ramp at least a few times.

As a side note, I think I now agree on adding some lands, Might start with 24 lands (as is the standard number for most decks), and see how that goes. I will also add some other ramp stuff over Loxodon Smiters and Beast trackers like Dawnbreaker Elk or Somberwald Sage . Also taking out 1 Village Bell-Ringer and adding a 3rd Craterhoof Behemoth