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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 6:32PM
#21
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If an opponent delcared to use Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker  's ability to take control of a creature and I had a Bloodthrone Vampire  or Korozda Guildmage  on the field would be able to use an ability to sacrifice the target creature before he took it over?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 6:33PM
#22
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yes
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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 7:38PM
#23
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Aug 13, 2001
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A simple solution is Magmaquake  since the spell dose not target
"Solution" to what specifically?
If you mean damaging a player and a Planeswalker that player controls at the same time, that won't work. Re-read the redirection rule - it has NOTHING to do with targeting. All it says is that if a source you control would deal non-combat damage to an opponent, you may choose to redirect that damage to a planeswalker that player controls. This works with Magmaquake the same way it works with Lightning Bolt - it can deal damage to an opponent or a planeswalker they control, never both. Magmaquake will just deal damage to a whole bunch of other stuff too, while Bolt won't. Failure to RTFC, 15 yard penalty on me. But the initial question remains valid, or did at the time I posted this at least.
Jeff Heikkinen
DCI Rules Advisor since Dec 25, 2011
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8 months ago ::
Oct 04, 2012 - 7:40PM
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Magmaquake deals damage to planeswalkers, not players
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8 months ago ::
Oct 05, 2012 - 3:07AM
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I'm more focusing on the planeswalker part of it and keeping possibilities within the standard ruling, I should have been more specific. Thunderous Wrath  would be another good one and if Gisela, Blade of Goldnight  was out when either of those spells were played the better the outcome would be as well. Personally I like to run red/white so when I play Magmaquake Avacyn, Angel of Hope  or Akroma's Memorial  protects my creatures from biting the dust. Otherwise its gotta be worth making the sacrifce in a tight situation.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 2:55PM
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When Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker activates his -9 ability to make a taget player sacrifice 7 permanents, are the pemanents chosen and then sacrificed all at once or sacrificed 1 by 1 in the order the player chooses?
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8 months ago ::
Oct 08, 2012 - 2:56PM
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all at once
same with discarding
(but in older formats the player can choose in which order they enter the graveyard despite that, new formats don't care about graveyard order anymore)
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 3:41PM
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Can you use Nicol Bolas's +3 ability to take out planeswalkers?
+3 = Destroy Target non creature permanent.
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8 months ago ::
Oct 16, 2012 - 3:45PM
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Can you use Nicol Bolas's +3 ability to take out planeswalkers?
+3 = Destroy Target non creature permanent.
certainly, as long as it isn't also a creature
there are weird combos possible to make planeswalkers also creatures (eg. March of the Machines  + Mycosynth Lattice  )
(or even just using the third ability of Gideon Jura  )
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