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8 months ago  ::  Sep 26, 2012 - 11:33AM #1
acydetchx
Date Joined: Jul 27, 2012
Posts: 8
Hi All,


So I'm a complete newbie at Magic. My friend and I started collecting recently as something else to do besides play video games and stare at glowing screens. I only have cards from the recent block M13, Innistrad, Avacyn, Dark Ascension.


Anyway, I got a Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker and I've been trying to come up with a feasible deck to use him in.


This may be way too general of a question, but how do you build a deck around this guy? I'm assuming you use  gem of becoming , and maybe artifact creatures? Is there any way to get him out before turn 8?
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 26, 2012 - 12:41PM #2
rezzahan
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2011
Posts: 4,774
You'll have to use the scarce mana ramp, that exists in Bolas colors within these sets in order to get him out earlier. Those colors are usually not known for speeding up your mana, at least in recent times. Some options: Warden of the Wall , Vessel of Endless Rest , Deranged Assistant .

The entire deck is going to be controllish, because an aggressive deck usually doesn't get to the point, where 8 mana spells can be cast. Well, if things go right. So you might want to hide behind some Fog Bank s, Murder big opposing threats, Dissipate their game changing spells, and occassionally sweep the board with Mutilate . Things like that.

Since the key card is 3-colored, some color fixing is nessessary. Like the already mentioned Vessel of Endless Rest , Evolving Wilds or some dual lands.

You might also want to include some tutors or card draw to get the guy, when you're ready to cast him.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 26, 2012 - 2:02PM #3
mcon1
Date Joined: Aug 20, 2012
Posts: 25
I threw him  in a multi-colored Myr deck that I use in casual games.

The Deck uses
Palladium Myr
Myr Galvanizer
Alloy Myr
to generate mana of all colors, and potentially get an infiniate mana combo.

since the deck isn't built around him, I expect to get him out very rarely, but it does work!

Hope that helps
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 26, 2012 - 3:12PM #4
bay_falconer
Date Joined: Oct 12, 2010
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Actually, white is the worst at mana ramp. It's primary in green in NWO (as always), secondary in blue and red, tertiary in black. Blue has to get colorless mana, and red has to lose card advantage or loyalty or some planeswalkers just don't give a... Black mostly gets mana fixers to black, but black can tutor lands, so long as they go to your hand. Green has no rules for ramp other than "no way in hell will we reprint Channel ".

Here's what you can use

* Liliana of the Dark Realms
*Artifact mana
* Koth of the Hammer
*Lots of card draw to get the lands. Luckily, duals are easy to come by. Take your pick: Darkslick Shores and Blackcleave Cliffs ; or Sulfur Falls , Drowned Catacomb , and Dragonskull Summit .

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 26, 2012 - 5:49PM #5
froofroo
Date Joined: Nov 6, 2011
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dark ritual , desperate ritual , seething song , etc
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 26, 2012 - 10:55PM #6
Sleeping
Date Joined: Sep 23, 2011
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Forest Joraga Treespeaker
Forest Lotus Cobra
Verdant Catacombs Harrow Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker


Ancient Tomb / City of Traitors Lotus Petal Dark Ritual Simian Spirit Guide Seeting Song Manamorphose Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 27, 2012 - 7:22AM #7
slave
Date Joined: Jul 22, 2011
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I play Big Nic in a casual mono-blue combo deck occasionally, get him in play by turn 4 or 5.

12 filter like Preordain , Ponder , Brainstrom .
4 to 8 counter like Spell Pierce, Counterspell etc.
Basic Islands plus some Saprazzan Skerry  (about 20 land total)
..... and then the combo part.
Dream Halls and  Conflux with a single of whatever else you wanna use to win.
Typically targets are  Omniscience , Cruel Ultimatum , and Wheel of sun and Moon to keep finding and using Conflux repeatedly.
You can really abuse this combo.
 
Í've been rotating between quite a few targets for Conflux, as this deck allows you to use any planeswalker, and any win-con that can be fetched with Conflux.   It's not just win all the time though, as your opponents can also use Dream Halls, but only you can use Omniscience - so it's quite fun in MP if you build the deck with win-cons that are more sport and not just crushing win.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 6:33AM #8
the_possum_man
Date Joined: Oct 4, 2012
Posts: 9
I have a nicol bolas/zombie deck. Now this deck is for casual games but it has been quite effective. Now with the addition of the newer zombies from innistrad block I am planning on rebuilding this deck. You can find timeshifted (i think) nicol bolas (creature not planeswalker) for less than a dollar each and they are fun to put into this deck also. I forget how the legend rule works with creatures turned planeswalkers I think you can have one of each on the table. But also most of the lilianna's are mandatory for a zombie deck. Also this deck is currently 100+ cards as it was specifically made to play with 4+ players in long drawn out slug matches as they can be quite fun. Most of my other decks are made for one on one destroy in less than 6-7 turns.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 11:34PM #9
Weisse
Date Joined: Jun 27, 2012
Posts: 880
You can feasibly make a monogreen ramp deck for Bolas. Just get all the ramp you can find and throw in the Gem of Becoming s. Should work reasonably well.
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