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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 2:11PM #11
killabkilledb
Date Joined: Jul 18, 2012
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How does the decking work?

Say its DroneOn and Killa vs Tripp and Karstien in round 1

I choose OD and he choose CL.

We play you a best of 3 and each game of that three we use a different deck or after every match we switch decks?

And you are providing us with the four decks?

And while you write this:

There is no real way to prove it's two players with one console. Hell, there is no way to prove it conclusively with two, but it's a reasonably safe bet.




There is no real way to prove you drew the cards you did so why not just let everyone pick their decks? Are we not trying to be competitve here?

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 2:15PM #12
killabkilledb
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 2:07PM, aaronjoncheney wrote:

If tripp and karstein wanna pair, then let them.  I'm a resounding no vote on split screen.  I Hate people who double fist controllers, and they take really long turns.

 DP doesnt really bother me, as I dont think its THAT over-powered, just annoying.  The random decks should prevent people from exloiting obviously good deck combos anyways.  




I'll bet I'd play as fast if not faster than everyone in there. It is annoying to play turtle splitscreeners but I play fast since I do it so much. I'd prefer solo because it maximizes my skill (all my decks are built to run together with certain combos). For example, my Jace deck is virtually useless right now EXCEPT in 2HG with OD. It performs poorly in 1v1 and with other decks in 2HG.

But since ps3 is better than the ipad we can at least get on the mic before a game and discuss strategy so I'd still play. But for me, and since this is a democracy..... I vote for choosing my own decks. If I can't play spitscreen AND some random guy off the interent WHO IS IN THE TOURNAMENT gets to pick everyone's decks -- including his and his partners--- behind closed doors, I'm out. No offense intended to you, Karstien.

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 2:16PM #13
Karstien
Date Joined: Aug 8, 2012
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 1:58PM, DVestal wrote:

Is there a scheduling of matches, or just find your opponents as you're able?  I'd be interested to participate.




Scheduling will be a nightmare, but I kept open some spots so I can try it. But if you are finding it hard to play a certain match, then skip ahead by all means and re-visit it later. There is no reason not to, just inform me when it's over, and i'll generate your new decks. 

@Aaronjonchesney

It isn't just the turns we give them, but the deck generation too. What, I just give one guy 10 decks and he chooses how he runs them by himself? Besides, as mentioned, this is about solid teamwork, so find the right partner for you, and practice. Discuss your builds in private to compliment each others. As for DP, like I already said, it was mainly a joke. I hate how easy it is, doing a 1v1's amount of work to win, when the life and creature/removal count is raised to make life harder for the other decks, but there are ways around it, and if t is generated, it's still only in one round of the match, but we will see what others think too. 

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 2:20PM #14
Karstien
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 2:15PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Sep 25, 2012 -- 2:07PM, aaronjoncheney wrote:

If tripp and karstein wanna pair, then let them.  I'm a resounding no vote on split screen.  I Hate people who double fist controllers, and they take really long turns.

 DP doesnt really bother me, as I dont think its THAT over-powered, just annoying.  The random decks should prevent people from exloiting obviously good deck combos anyways.  




I'll bet I'd play as fast if not faster thanIt is annoying but I play fast splitscreen. I'd prefer solo because it maximizes my skill (all my decks are built to run together with certain combos). For example, my Jace deck is virtually useless right now EXCEPT in 2HG with OD. It performs poorly in 1v1 and with other decks. But since ps3 is better than the ipad we can at least get on the mic before a game and discuss strategy so I'd still play.

But for me, and since this is a democracy..... I vote for choosing my own decks. If I can't play spitscreen and some random guy off the interent WHO IS IN THE TOURNAMENT gets to pick everyone's decks behind closed doors, I'm out. No offense intended to you, Karstien.




Hey, none taken, and if you want to find somebody impartial to choose decks, then be my guest, i'm up for that. I am sure random decks will beat out choice though, for variety at least. I'll wait till you are confirmed before I add you to the list though. Oh, and each player does get to choose one deck, so you have a viable combo at least, you just gotta choose well. The rest, well, I have some rebuilding to do myself. 

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 2:23PM #15
Karstien
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 2:11PM, killabkilledb wrote:

How does the decking work?

Say its DroneOn and Killa vs Tripp and Karstien in round 1

I choose OD and he choose CL.

We play you a best of 3 and each game of that three we use a different deck or after every match we switch decks?

And you are providing us with the four decks?

And while you write this:

There is no real way to prove it's two players with one console. Hell, there is no way to prove it conclusively with two, but it's a reasonably safe bet.




There is no real way to prove you drew the cards you did so why not just let everyone pick their decks? Are we not trying to be competitve here?




I just answered your last one, i'm not fussy who draws the decks, as long as it's one person. as for how it works, each player gets their decks, and can play each once. If you both have the same two decks, congrats, you can play them both I guess. Have fun. And don't ever think i'm taking offence from the questions, I like getting things sorted out ahead of time. It's what makes me rather good at organising things, if I do say so myself. And I do.

EDIT:: Diff deck each round, sorry, missed that question. 

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 3:09PM #16
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I vote no mill just not fun to play against. yea and someone else should pic the decks.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 3:12PM #17
killabkilledb
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So I choose a deck and you randomly choose four more.

I pick one of those five decks to play all three games in round 1 with? Is this correct?

Then at the start of round two, I still have my deck but can't use it if I used it in round 1? I have to use all the decks before using any one twice?

I'll play but I need a partner with a mic. I want someone who is going to communicate during the game and who is willing to collaborate/deck build for a few minutes pre-game..... I may be able to find someone at any rate but again, timing will be the biggest fuss...

Oh and the game won't allow us to play the same color so suppose me and my partner use four decks and during round 5 we both have OD open. What happens?
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 3:15PM #18
killabkilledb
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I vote for mill. If you want to use Jace then use it. It's no fun watching someone take infinte turns either or gain life every turn dragging the game on or locking the board down with exalted cards making the game go forever. Should we ban the panoptic mirror and silent arbiter too? Its no fun having my land killed in a yeva bounce build. Ban the erratic portal and primadox or remove the acidic slime while we are at it. No Befouls or wrecking balls either.

Maybe we should just all run goblins and just attack over and over again until one of us randomly wins.
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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 3:29PM #19
Karstien
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 3:12PM, killabkilledb wrote:

So I choose a deck and you randomly choose four more.

I pick one of those five decks to play all three games in round 1 with? Is this correct?

Then at the start of round two, I still have my deck but can't use it if I used it in round 1? I have to use all the decks before using any one twice?

I'll play but I need a partner with a mic. I want someone who is going to communicate during the game and who is willing to collaborate/deck build for a few minutes pre-game..... I may be able to find someone at any rate but again, timing will be the biggest fuss...

Oh and the game won't allow us to play the same color so suppose me and my partner use four decks and during round 5 we both have OD open. What happens?




Well, the way I originally planned it, is you choose a deck, I generate four more. You use one per round, 3 per match, and then you get another four. But if we are getting somebody else to generate them, then we need both a willing helper, who is impartial by the way, and could we count on them to draw new decks for every player after every match they play? I was willing to do it, but we now need a new system, because to do all that without ever playing in it is a little much, right? And you can use your chosen deck once per match, in one round only. But you can use it every match. 

The good thing about it was if you got a bad draw of decks, you only had to put up with them for one round. Same as if somebody got the perfect draw. By the way, every league and tourney so far has been ran by a person playing it drawing the random decks, except the ones where you choose, which personally, I feel narrows the playing field. But no matter, complicating things is fun, right? Any suggestions, because I still vote random. as for timing, it's a league, there is no rush. Find your partner, play your matches at your own pace as long as it is within reason. The order doesn't even matter much, just one per opponent. 

I'm tryng to meet all your needs here Killa, but I asked you for an impartial deck generator. Where is he/she? If none can be found, i'll do it myself, or there will be no league. Everybody get's a vote, that's democracy, but somebody still has to run it. If you want to change things, pull your weight or leave. I'm done bending over backwards for no reason other than you want it done your way. I think i'm being more than reasonable here. 

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8 months ago  ::  Sep 25, 2012 - 3:30PM #20
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Sep 25, 2012 -- 3:15PM, killabkilledb wrote:

I vote for mill. If you want to use Jace then use it. It's no fun watching someone take infinte turns either or gain life every turn dragging the game on or locking the board down with exalted cards making the game go forever. Should we ban the panoptic mirror and silent arbiter too? Its no fun having my land killed in a yeva bounce build. Ban the erratic portal and primadox or remove the acidic slime while we are at it. No Befouls or wrecking balls either.

Maybe we should just all run goblins and just attack over and over again until one of us randomly wins.






I think mill should stay in so people who do run it in 2hg can get there possible wins. You say infinite like its all CW is good for though, and that is to be frank a good reason why you would lose to it a lot built the way I have it.



I do agree turbo mill is generally unfair because all their partner has to do is block till they win. But no reason to ban it. People can only use it once per set of matches yes? then even if they are mill experts odds are they lose the other two games.
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