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Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:32AM, Karstien wrote:

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:20AM, DroneOn wrote:

If there's a problem, it won't be me that complains unless someone breaks the rules of the tournament or behaves in an unsportsmanlike way (insults or using timer exploits).

Killa has apparently been banned from this forum, so you may want to reconsider his inclusion, though.

He's been banned? Doesn't surprise me, though he would have been a good addition to the league. I'll talk to him and try to find out if this is true. Obviously he can't compete if he can't sign in here to see his new decks/post his results. And I agree, any exploits or insults that are uncalled for will result in loss of points at the very least. 

 

Lol how do you even get banned from a forum like this? I mean I see people say nearly the same things he does. The difference I suppose being he does it more frequently. 

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:58AM, tripp2300 wrote:

Lol how do you even get banned from a forum like this? I mean I see people say nearly the same things he does. The difference I suppose being he does it more frequently. 

Karstien btw, you don't need say stuff like he'd be a great addition if he says things that get him banned....

More importantly, who will I argue with whether plague wind is acceptable or not now? 

Kinda funny.  I've never actually encountered him in game, because I think he plays on other platforms more.  But he's actually one of the reasons I don't participate in these forums more often.

I guess if we have an odd number of players again, we need to find one more and Eagle needs a new partner?

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:58AM, tripp2300 wrote:

Lol how do you even get banned from a forum like this?

A mod came into a thread and warned people to stop trolling/baiting/flaming.  Everyone dropped the subject except him.  He posted a bunch of times in a row, including trying to shame me for being "racist" because I jokingly named my all-White Aura Servants build "White Supremecy".

I would assume that's why.

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:58AM, tripp2300 wrote:

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:32AM, Karstien wrote:

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:20AM, DroneOn wrote:

If there's a problem, it won't be me that complains unless someone breaks the rules of the tournament or behaves in an unsportsmanlike way (insults or using timer exploits).

Killa has apparently been banned from this forum, so you may want to reconsider his inclusion, though.

He's been banned? Doesn't surprise me, though he would have been a good addition to the league. I'll talk to him and try to find out if this is true. Obviously he can't compete if he can't sign in here to see his new decks/post his results. And I agree, any exploits or insults that are uncalled for will result in loss of points at the very least. 

 

Lol how do you even get banned from a forum like this? I mean I see people say nearly the same things he does. The difference I suppose being he does it more frequently. 

Karstien btw, you don't need say stuff like he'd be a great addition if he says things that get him banned....

More importantly, who will I argue with whether plague wind is acceptable or not now? 

He would have been a great addition though. As distasteful as he can get, we did have good games against him once. Plus, he was running OD...we could have played with his plaguewind strategy. 

@Dvestal: Eagle is paired with Legacy, it's devilwuster who needs a new partner. 

Sep 30, 2012 -- 11:11AM, Karstien wrote:

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Oh right, that's what I meant.  Both of them are on my friends list, and they both have the same avatar so I think that's why I accidentally mixed them up like that.

I am still in need of a partner, my RL friend is not going to participate. The only one from here that I have played with is Crysus, we had good matches and I believe we didn't lose any. If anyone wants to play some, hit me up.

Decklists are done as of this post.  ill update teams as we get them.   Also, let me know what we will be doing about killa.

Wow. Just catching up after a day off the forum. The hell happened to my partner? I even appealed to him the other night to slow down on the posting, to no avail. Damn shame, we really had some good stuff ready to go.

Sorry for double posting but I'm inthe garage on my phone.
If killa has a permanent ban, I will have to drop out. I have played many 2hg games, even before this league, with him and I'm akin to his playstyle and we practiced some sick combos for the first week.

Just communicated with killa. We're still in. He'll be back.

never seen so many men bicker like women over minor things, can we just get the tournament started and have a good time? its a dam card game people, nothing deep.

Sep 30, 2012 -- 6:00PM, LegacyRO3 wrote:

never seen so many men bicker like women over minor things, can we just get the tournament started and have a good time? its a dam card game people, nothing deep.

I agree, but we can't start without all the teams set up. Nothing to do till then, and some people like to bicker, lol. 

Will everybody without a partner please try to find one by tuesday at the latest, or I will pair off the remaining players randomly. Does anybody have a problem with this?

Sep 30, 2012 -- 5:54PM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Just communicated with killa. We're still in. He'll be back.

What does that mean?  Has he only been suspended?  If he's been banned, he can't re-register under a different name.  That's rather the point of banning someone.

Sep 30, 2012 -- 6:04PM, Karstien wrote:

I agree, but we can't start without all the teams set up. Nothing to do till then, and some people like to bicker, lol. 

Will everybody without a partner please try to find one by tuesday at the latest, or I will pair off the remaining players randomly. Does anybody have a problem with this?

Nope, that sounds fine to me.  I'm on a business trip Tuesday through Thursday, and with a broken PS3 for now, I don't have much time to "audition" partners anyway, haha.

@Droneon
Suspended for one day

Just looked at the lock thread. I must concede my position in the league. Jeez, can't I just have one day off the forum?

Sep 30, 2012 -- 10:13PM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Just looked at the lock thread. I must concede my position in the league. Jeez, can't I just have one day off the forum?

You're out?

Random partners is fine, cuz at the end of the day the game is pretty random itself. No matter what combos you try to pull out, sometimes the Gods of the mana screw will not let you pull it off.

I will be on tonight starting at 7pm EST if anyone wants to pair up.

Out.
I see this is going to turn out to be a big drama-fest I want no part of.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 6:36AM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Out. I see this is going to turn out to be a big drama-fest I want no part of.

Why do you say that?  If killa wants to repeat the behavior that got him suspended, that's his problem, but I have him on Ignore so I won't be letting him bait/troll me anymore.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 6:36AM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Out. I see this is going to turn out to be a big drama-fest I want no part of.

No drama bro. Its a league, I'll be good.

Alright. If we can all get along, I'll do it. Just seems everything degenerates so quickly around here, I have been hesitant.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 9:33AM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Alright. If we can all get along, I'll do it. Just seems everything degenerates so quickly around here, I have been hesitant.

I don't know if Drone has a mic or not but I'll just mute her as soon as we get in the lobby to avoid any issues.

Cool. I'll start the refriending process tonight. After getting back on the forum the other day and consuming, I did some deleting.

Lets ditch the drama factory that these stupid thread devolve into and play some f****** magic.  As soon as we have enough people we should randomly partner up everyone too lazy/picky to do so on their own time and get started. Also know this: about a third of us are gonna drop out in the first week as the reality of time constraints hit home.  Lets find out who those people are, weed them out and start the real league sans flakes.

Random is fine with me, too.  I'm starting to think some people are more interested in talking about how good they are at Magic than actually proving it. 

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:16PM, DroneOn wrote:

Random is fine with me, too.  I'm starting to think some people are more interested in talking about how good they are at Magic than actually proving it. 

Well as good as people are at magic, I'm inclined to not think of this as a real competition. I just want friendly matches against decent opponents. Do I expect things to get heated at times? Yes. But I also know a side effect that comes from said heat. And while I have my doubts about some competitors ability to do this, let's try and just have fun please?

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:36PM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:16PM, DroneOn wrote:

Random is fine with me, too.  I'm starting to think some people are more interested in talking about how good they are at Magic than actually proving it. 

Well as good as people are at magic, I'm inclined to not think of this as a real competition. I just want friendly matches against decent opponents. Do I expect things to get heated at times? Yes. But I also know a side effect that comes from said heat. And while I have my doubts about some competitors ability to do this, let's try and just have fun please?

Above all I hope everyone will be friendly and respectful. Good luck to all the fine participants! I expect a virtual handshake in the shape of a smiley before each match! 

I agree with that. Nothing against my partner Wuster, he is a really solid player and I couldn't hope to do better, but if this were competitive I would be splitscreening and every single one of my combinations would be tailor fit to run together with a level of excruciating detail and synergy that is not really possible when two different people approach their decks.

Also, I am thinking Wuster and I should be drinking copious amounts of beer while we play. It will make the games more interesting

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:49PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:36PM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:16PM, DroneOn wrote:

Random is fine with me, too.  I'm starting to think some people are more interested in talking about how good they are at Magic than actually proving it. 

Well as good as people are at magic, I'm inclined to not think of this as a real competition. I just want friendly matches against decent opponents. Do I expect things to get heated at times? Yes. But I also know a side effect that comes from said heat. And while I have my doubts about some competitors ability to do this, let's try and just have fun please?

Above all I hope everyone will be friendly and respectful. Good luck to all the fine participants! I expect a virtual handshake in the shape of a smiley before each match! 

I agree with that. Nothing against my partner Wuster, he is a really solid player and I couldn't hope to do better, but if this were competitive I would be splitscreening and every single one of my combinations would be tailor fit to run together with a level of excruciating detail and synergy that is not really possible when two different people approach their decks.

Also, I am thinking Wuster and I should be drinking copious amounts of beer while we play. It will make the games more interesting

Well you could tailor fit... Karstien and I play 2hg almost exclusively so we always try to optimize our builds towards the other. If you get us in the first round you'll see a very unorthodox combo I think.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 6:05PM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:49PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:36PM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:16PM, DroneOn wrote:

Random is fine with me, too.  I'm starting to think some people are more interested in talking about how good they are at Magic than actually proving it. 

Well as good as people are at magic, I'm inclined to not think of this as a real competition. I just want friendly matches against decent opponents. Do I expect things to get heated at times? Yes. But I also know a side effect that comes from said heat. And while I have my doubts about some competitors ability to do this, let's try and just have fun please?

Above all I hope everyone will be friendly and respectful. Good luck to all the fine participants! I expect a virtual handshake in the shape of a smiley before each match! 

I agree with that. Nothing against my partner Wuster, he is a really solid player and I couldn't hope to do better, but if this were competitive I would be splitscreening and every single one of my combinations would be tailor fit to run together with a level of excruciating detail and synergy that is not really possible when two different people approach their decks.

Also, I am thinking Wuster and I should be drinking copious amounts of beer while we play. It will make the games more interesting

Well you could tailor fit... Karstien and I play 2hg almost exclusively so we always try to optimize our builds towards the other. If you get us in the first round you'll see a very unorthodox combo I think.

It would take a lot of time and discussing for two different players who don't play a few hours every night to see eye to eye on THAT specific of a deck build....We went ove them and what we want to do and I'd say our builds are probably 95% cohesive and I am fine with that.

But also with 2 people you have to respect what your opponent likes to play and how he/she likes to play and he/she has to respect that about you. So you have some concessions going on out of mutual partnership.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:36PM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 1, 2012 -- 5:16PM, DroneOn wrote:

Random is fine with me, too.  I'm starting to think some people are more interested in talking about how good they are at Magic than actually proving it. 

Well as good as people are at magic, I'm inclined to not think of this as a real competition. I just want friendly matches against decent opponents. Do I expect things to get heated at times? Yes. But I also know a side effect that comes from said heat. And while I have my doubts about some competitors ability to do this, let's try and just have fun please?

Above all I hope everyone will be friendly and respectful. Good luck to all the fine participants! I expect a virtual handshake in the shape of a smiley before each match! 

Yeah, I don't feel the need to prove anything, but I figure the league will give a better chance to play with increasingly familiar people than the random games I normally find.  Random games are pretty awful all around.

I will pair up Crysus, I sent him a message over PSN and he accepted. It's funny how people think they can have really good combos in DoTP 2HG format, when in fact the combo is just a few lousy cards like having underworld out and the other deck something that makes people draw like time reversal or prosperity. There is not much tweeking you can do to the decks so that is why they will never be really combo decks, you can only really have a support and the other finisher. Even mill and SS that go really well together cuz both benefit from cards in graveyard, they still aren't combo decks built specifically for 2HG

I'd say in DoTP you can have around 30% card synergy between the 2 decks in 2HG, if you want 80% then go play MTGO, cuz even then 100% is impossible. 

Oct 1, 2012 -- 8:47PM, Squalltheonly wrote:

I will pair up Crysus, I sent him a message over PSN and he accepted. It's funny how people think they can have really good combos in DoTP 2HG format, when in fact the combo is just a few lousy cards like having underworld out and the other deck something that makes people draw like time reversal or prosperity. There is not much tweeking you can do to the decks so that is why they will never be really combo decks, you can only really have a support and the other finisher. Even mill and SS that go really well together cuz both benefit from cards in graveyard, they still aren't combo decks built specifically for 2HG

Wheel and Deal FTW. I've done it several times with 2 underworld dreams out for twenty eight points of beautiful, sweet damage damage......twincasting an exsanguinate is another favorite....at 7 total mana its a 40 life swing in the game.....absolutely insane.... but the strength is you have many other options and the decks make up for one another's weaknesses in this format.

And this format is limited but there are bad ways to work within the limits, good ways to work withing the limits and the best ways to work within the limis. Some people are competitive by nature and try to find the latter and others are content to just play casually, not caring about leaderboards, win-losses, etc. To each their own.

I updated post 175 with who is left.  right now we have 6 teams.  I can pair people and give us 8 teams and we can go from there.  I think 8 teams would be fine, but thats not up to me, its up to everyone.  let me know.

Oct 1, 2012 -- 9:19PM, eaglenitewillow wrote:

I updated post 175 with who is left.  right now we have 6 teams.  I can pair people and give us 8 teams and we can go from there.  I think 8 teams would be fine, but thats not up to me, its up to everyone.  let me know.

I'm good with whatever. Just want to start this and get it mostly done before Black Ops 2 comes out because Magic will be getting a long break at that point....minus any unfinished leagues/torunaments... :o

Its funny, I am starting to think I am the only one who plays magic still when new games come out.  I guess I like it more than most people do.  For me, I don't find it hard to squeeze some time in to play.  I love 2hg, but have found myself doing 1v1 alot lately.  Getting people mad with my dream puppets alot lately...good times. 

Oct 1, 2012 -- 9:26PM, eaglenitewillow wrote:

Its funny, I am starting to think I am the only one who plays magic still when new games come out.  I guess I like it more than most people do.  For me, I don't find it hard to squeeze some time in to play.  I love 2hg, but have found myself doing 1v1 alot lately.  Getting people mad with my dream puppets alot lately...good times. 

You running control DP or mill? I suppose while people are trying to figure out how to optimze a dlc deck mill will annoy them a lot and get some extra wins.....

I play more on the ipad than the ps3 now....the Ipad is just so convenient, I can play while out, while home watching tv, in any room in the house, while doing laundry, I can carry the game with me around the house and do different things, etc....I'm finding it harder and harder to sit in front of the ps3 and play......plus running two controls on the ps3 requires a bit of work to stay considerate and play fast for the opponent's sake and setting up and charging two controllers and a mic is a pain and blah blah blah...other than that I get a random partner that is hit or miss (mostly the latter) or team with a friend that just isn't that good and has sub-par deck builds, etc....The lack of chat/messaging on the ipad is a blessing in disguise too....I'll still play on the ipad but I doubt I will do anything else on the ps3 but Blops2 when it comes out until Christmas....I'm really pumped for Zombies more than the multiplayer....I'd pay $60 just for zombies, the multiplayer is an added bonus...

Good thing it comes out during No Shave November, I won't have time for trivial nonsense like that....

Come on killa, you can't really call them combo decks just cuz of those 2 cards. You could do the same twincasting a flamebreak or masscloning a phoenix then killing 1.

We gotta work with what we have, but what we have is "lucky" chance draws.

"oh I have mire's toll and griselbrand in my starting hand"
"keep it man, I got reanimate".

Drone
I'm still in with killa. The combination of all the drama and being sick caused me to be hasty in dropping. I am rarin to go. Let's get it on!

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:57AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

Come on killa, you can't really call them combo decks just cuz of those 2 cards. You could do the same twincasting a flamebreak or masscloning a phoenix then killing 1. We gotta work with what we have, but what we have is "lucky" chance draws. "oh I have mire's toll and griselbrand in my starting hand" "keep it man, I got reanimate".

Sorry, but I have to disagree with this. I mean sure, a lot of people play two deck for a specific combo, but there ARE decks that combo with each other in a more meaningful way. Tripp and myself like to find these decks, and the builds that make them click. If you want an example, look up Killa's 2HG thread. I did a rather large explanation of two decks that combo very well a page or two back. If you can somehow refute even half of these facts, the other half still make it a great pair. 

Okay, so Squall and Cyrus are another team, i'll pair the rest up later tonight, and then we can begin. Unless Eagle want's to pair you all up of course. I'm not against that. Hell, anybody who wants to randomly pair people can do it, just tell me how you do it. And don't forget that both cannot have the same keeper decks. Should be okay, but I think two of the unpaired have selected AS. 

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:57AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

Come on killa, you can't really call them combo decks just cuz of those 2 cards. You could do the same twincasting a flamebreak or masscloning a phoenix then killing 1. We gotta work with what we have, but what we have is "lucky" chance draws. "oh I have mire's toll and griselbrand in my starting hand" "keep it man, I got reanimate".

In typical fashion it's you and Cyrus who both chose AS. One of you has to change, again, lol. 

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:57AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

Come on killa, you can't really call them combo decks just cuz of those 2 cards. You could do the same twincasting a flamebreak or masscloning a phoenix then killing 1. We gotta work with what we have, but what we have is "lucky" chance draws. "oh I have mire's toll and griselbrand in my starting hand" "keep it man, I got reanimate".

Obviously you have greater flexibility in paper magic but I have to reiterate....

The 2HG thread has some nice, solid combos and builds now. Stevo's OD/DP build is amazing....Tripp/Karsts ED/CW build works well (Wuster and I tested it or a version very close to it)....The GM/BF combo I posted works extremely well, and there are a lot of individual lists (PI mana ramping build, etc)....
the turbo Mill/Lifegain build works but needs tweaking post expansion, the Bounce AW/CW deck list I posted works well...

There are also lots of cards that work good in 2HG that you shouldn't run in 1v1 in this game (Thievary, Exsanguinates are twice as good).

That thread has a lot of good discussion and strategy inside. I can only reiterate that within this limited format there are

Bad Pairings/Deck Setups
Good Pairings/Deck Setups
Very Good Pairings/Setups

The goal is to find decks that complement one another, decks that have answers or defense for what the other deck lacks, decks that produce a few spiffy combinations that can close out a game, decks that can protect another deck while a build gets going. I think there was a build where a guy ran aggro goblins in 2HG with CW just to stall and grab all the attention while CW did its thing. He didn't care if his goblins got killed or wiped. He was just a diversion. Interesting to stay the least but that is pretty much what mill/lifegain is. You turbo mill, I keep us alive... Its a synergistic combination because turnbo mill can do its thing and CL keeps it alive.....Imagine all your 1v1 losses with milling, if you were given 3 extra turns due to lifegain.....I'd bet you'd win a lot more games...

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:19AM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:57AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

Come on killa, you can't really call them combo decks just cuz of those 2 cards. You could do the same twincasting a flamebreak or masscloning a phoenix then killing 1. We gotta work with what we have, but what we have is "lucky" chance draws. "oh I have mire's toll and griselbrand in my starting hand" "keep it man, I got reanimate".

Obviously you have greater flexibility in paper magic but I have to reiterate....

The 2HG thread has some nice, solid combos and builds now. Stevo's OD/DP build is amazing....Tripp/Karsts ED/CW build works well (Wuster and I tested it or a version very close to it)....The GM/BF combo I posted works extremely well, and there are a lot of individual lists (PI mana ramping build, etc)....
the turbo Mill/Lifegain build works but needs tweaking post expansion, the Bounce AW/CW deck list I posted works well...

There are also lots of cards that work good in 2HG that you shouldn't run in 1v1 in this game (Thievary, Exsanguinates are twice as good).

That thread has a lot of good discussion and strategy inside. I can only reiterate that within this limited format there are

Bad Pairings/Deck Setups
Good Pairings/Deck Setups
Very Good Pairings/Setups

The goal is to find decks that complement one another, decks that have answers or defense for what the other deck lacks, decks that produce a few spiffy combinations that can close out a game, decks that can protect another deck while a build gets going. I think there was a build where a guy ran aggro goblins in 2HG with CW just to stall and grab all the attention while CW did its thing. He didn't care if his goblins got killed or wiped. He was just a diversion. Interesting to stay the least but that is pretty much what mill/lifegain is. You turbo mill, I keep us alive... Its a synergistic combination because turnbo mill can do its thing and CL keeps it alive.....Imagine all your 1v1 losses with milling, if you were given 3 extra turns due to lifegain.....I'd bet you'd win a lot more games...

Just because our combo doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't "work extremely  well". Remember, while you were copying stevo, we were exploring and perfecting the unorthodox .

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:36AM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:19AM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:57AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

Come on killa, you can't really call them combo decks just cuz of those 2 cards. You could do the same twincasting a flamebreak or masscloning a phoenix then killing 1. We gotta work with what we have, but what we have is "lucky" chance draws. "oh I have mire's toll and griselbrand in my starting hand" "keep it man, I got reanimate".

Obviously you have greater flexibility in paper magic but I have to reiterate....

The 2HG thread has some nice, solid combos and builds now. Stevo's OD/DP build is amazing....Tripp/Karsts ED/CW build works well (Wuster and I tested it or a version very close to it)....The GM/BF combo I posted works extremely well, and there are a lot of individual lists (PI mana ramping build, etc)....
the turbo Mill/Lifegain build works but needs tweaking post expansion, the Bounce AW/CW deck list I posted works well...

There are also lots of cards that work good in 2HG that you shouldn't run in 1v1 in this game (Thievary, Exsanguinates are twice as good).

That thread has a lot of good discussion and strategy inside. I can only reiterate that within this limited format there are

Bad Pairings/Deck Setups
Good Pairings/Deck Setups
Very Good Pairings/Setups

The goal is to find decks that complement one another, decks that have answers or defense for what the other deck lacks, decks that produce a few spiffy combinations that can close out a game, decks that can protect another deck while a build gets going. I think there was a build where a guy ran aggro goblins in 2HG with CW just to stall and grab all the attention while CW did its thing. He didn't care if his goblins got killed or wiped. He was just a diversion. Interesting to stay the least but that is pretty much what mill/lifegain is. You turbo mill, I keep us alive... Its a synergistic combination because turnbo mill can do its thing and CL keeps it alive.....Imagine all your 1v1 losses with milling, if you were given 3 extra turns due to lifegain.....I'd bet you'd win a lot more games...

Just because our combo doesn't work for you doesn't mean it doesn't "work extremely  well". Remember, while you were copying stevo, we were exploring and perfecting the unorthodox .

What is wrong with you? I was complmenting you? I said your deck works well and I should have clarified that is in limited testing...., Wuster and I tested it 3 games without a loss IIRC because were seeing what we wanted to pair out of our random decks in the 2HG. We aren't running your exact build. I ran my C and he ran his ED deck but I'd bet they are 95% similar anyways.... I like it. I need more testing before I can say its the best thing since sliced bread but having played enough 2HG and seeing your description of how its run and understanding that from experience I know it will rack up a ton if wins in 2HG. My OD build was identical to stevo's before I even saw his build of course that is minus Nightmare incursion and I run 2x exsanguinate in 2HG and I think its a HUGE mistake for anyone not to do this....including Stevo in his build....the card is MVP 5* tier 1 in 2HG....40 life swing at 7 mana.....hello....anybody in there! I have to thank Stevo for the nightmare incursion/telemin vs Talrand trick. Lots of easy wins milling Talrand for up to 30 cards in a single turn.... I adopted his dream puppets style though and made 2-3 small changes and it worked for me. I also posted my own builds in that thread --- I pretty much built a version of every deck for 2HG (see the OP pal) and posted the yeva bounce build and a few others and my GM/BF deck is a beast. Give it a whirl and let me know wht you think pudding cup :p

Yes Karstien, killa was complimenting tripp and your combo. I always figured the only way to run ED in 2hg was with heavy control as a partner. You proved me right. Really looking forward to playing against you with a proper partner. Why do you think I haven't joined your lobbies as of recently........damn, dirty random partners.

Tripp that was mean't for you. Hard to work and post at the same time, some times.

Oct 2, 2012 -- 9:58AM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Yes Karstien, killa was complimenting tripp and your combo. I always figured the only way to run ED in 2hg was with heavy control as a partner. You proved me right. Really looking forward to playing against you with a proper partner. Why do you think I haven't joined your lobbies as of recently........damn, dirty random partners.

Oh, you would be surprised how effective a creature version can be, but not with crosswinds imo. Try it with another deck with heavy removal though. Not SS if you run gravepact, as it really sucks, but something like MS or OD. Take out the pacifisms, and a few other cards, put in the exalted lands, you'll need the power, and run riot. In particular, put back in the lifelink vamps and the 1/1 white squires. The one drop ones, and the unblockables. Saw Tripp stall lifelink for around 6 turns pre-patch by swinging through to lower the life total with that one...hilarious serra ascendant baiting. 

I never said there weren't decks that compliment each other and help each other out, but what I meant is that the decks aren't really built with that mentallity.

I always try to support my partner, like if he uses SS then I will use DP cuz the graveyard will pump up his creatures. If he uses GM then I will use A control/burn version of MS. Or if he uses OD then I will use CW.

But at the end is not much you can do, I would love to play against you and your partner and show you that no matter how much you tweek your deck, it wont be 100% reliable, you might see the combo happen or you might not. Let crysus change his keeper, cuz I am happy with my randoms. Wouldnt want them to change.

Oct 2, 2012 -- 11:49AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

I never said there weren't decks that compliment each other and help each other out, but what I meant is that the decks aren't really built with that mentallity.

I always try to support my partner, like if he uses SS then I will use DP cuz the graveyard will pump up his creatures. If he uses GM then I will use A control/burn version of MS. Or if he uses OD then I will use CW.

But at the end is not much you can do, I would love to play against you and your partner and show you that no matter how much you tweek your deck, it wont be 100% reliable, you might see the combo happen or you might not. Let crysus change his keeper, cuz I am happy with my randoms. Wouldnt want them to change.

Is Crysus happy with that? This is about teamwork, I don't think you should decide for the both of you. 

No, the decks aren't built like that, but they have enough cards that you CAN build them that way. And NO deck is 100% reliable. Nothing on the game is, it's designed that way. But the decks do sync perfectly well, and what combo are you talking about? We don't have a specific combo of cards we need to win, we don't play like that. The thread is on this page, telling you all you need to know about our decks. SS and DP IS a combo that is reliant on a few cards, ours is reliant on the entire decks and the way we play them. Nothng here is 100%, but it's as close as you can get. 

ill change my keeper deck to grinding malice. i can work with mostly any deck no problem.

Oct 2, 2012 -- 3:55PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

ill change my keeper deck to grinding malice. i can work with mostly any deck no problem.

you gonna be okay with new randoms?

sure no  problem

okay, have you fixed in a jiffy

edit: all fixed up 

Sep 29, 2012 -- 4:31PM, eaglenitewillow wrote:

Also, we need to finish pairing up.  so far we have 5 confirmed teams.

those that still need to partner up aere:

DroneOn(zerodrone)
Aaronjonchesney
Andre1001(ANdreG1001)
DVestal(Wanderer07)
giantsfan2482

If any of you have paired, and i missed it, i apologize and just tell me below.  i know some people wanted to see how they did together first, but I was not sure if anyone put it in stone or not.

If you guys/girls are okay with it, i will pair up Drone and Andre together and Aaron and DVestal together.  Chime in and let me know so I can update the official page.  And if every one doesn't mind,could whoevr poste don other thread delete their posts? minus you Karstien....  

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:15PM, eaglenitewillow wrote:

Sep 29, 2012 -- 4:31PM, eaglenitewillow wrote:

Also, we need to finish pairing up.  so far we have 5 confirmed teams.

those that still need to partner up aere:

DroneOn(zerodrone)
Aaronjonchesney
Andre1001(ANdreG1001)
DVestal(Wanderer07)
giantsfan2482

If any of you have paired, and i missed it, i apologize and just tell me below.  i know some people wanted to see how they did together first, but I was not sure if anyone put it in stone or not.

If you guys/girls are okay with it, i will pair up Drone and Andre together and Aaron and DVestal together.  Chime in and let me know so I can update the official page.  And if every one doesn't mind,could whoevr poste don other thread delete their posts? minus you Karstien....  

That is absolutely fine by me. We had another pleyer too, but he posted once, no deck, and never came back to any thread. I removed him earlier. Sorry Giantsfan, but unless you can find a partner soon, you will be unable to participate this time around. 

The only reason I hadn't used giantsfan was cause he was last one here.  I think 8 teams is good.  Are we playing only 7 times each or are we playing each team twice or what?

Oct 2, 2012 -- 4:35PM, eaglenitewillow wrote:

The only reason I hadn't used giantsfan was cause he was last one here.  I think 8 teams is good.  Are we playing only 7 times each or are we playing each team twice or what?

Before we decide that can we play 1-2 rounds to see how the logistics work out? Because if people start dropping, can't make the deadline this can fall apart...

If things go smooth we could do a double round robin...

Yes.  A tester run to see who's really up for playing.  
Also, I'm sure I've already said this, but I want to be clear that I'm down to partner with someone randomly.
I'm pretty chill with whatever the end rules you guys decide, just post them at the top of the thread so I can read them when the league starts...
 

The 8 teams are now posted on the other thread.  Karstien, whenever you are ready to get the game list up and ready, go for it.

Thank you Eagle, the first round playlist is up now, i'll be doing the second round later. If somebody could go and get people to remove thier posts in the other thread, in particular LegacyRO3's post, I would appreciate it. 

Oh, and the first round match-ups were generated using my state of the art system.  Enjoy people.  

Excellent. I shall see if we can play today, Karstien. I'll talk with Antkour after work, and send You a friend request.

All right, lets do this. I will be on tonight and ask wanderer if his partner is in, so I can send them invites.

So is it 2 out of 3? Can we have 1 match that we can scrape as a fluke? Sometimes the mana gods are not in my favor lol.

Oh and are this rounds the real deal?

Oct 3, 2012 -- 10:16AM, Squalltheonly wrote:

All right, lets do this. I will be on tonight and ask wanderer if his partner is in, so I can send them invites. So is it 2 out of 3? Can we have 1 match that we can scrape as a fluke? Sometimes the mana gods are not in my favor lol. Oh and are this rounds the real deal?

The rules are on the first page of this and the other thread, and yes, it's 2 out of three. And these rounds the real deal? Yes, they are. If teams start to drop out though, we may have to treat them as a test, but if not, why not make them the real thing? 

I though i read someone say we were having test matches to see if people would show up and were willing, but I guess it's on.

S**t just got real.

Killabkilledb & Thedevilwuster vs LegacyRO3 & Eaglenitewillow {Eaglenitewillow1}

Can we discuss availability times? This is short notice but I am available the rest of tonight....

Not sure what time zones your are in but after 10pm eastern works for me thursday and Friday night... or during the AM....Saturday Morning or Sunday Afternoon/Night and pretty much all day Mon-Wed is when ym schedule is the most flexible.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:06PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Killabkilledb & Thedevilwuster vs LegacyRO3 & Eaglenitewillow {Eaglenitewillow1}

Can we discuss availability times? This is short notice but I am available the rest of tonight....

Not sure what time zones your are in but after 10pm eastern works for me thursday and Friday night... or during the AM....Saturday Morning or Sunday Afternoon/Night and pretty much all day Mon-Wed is when ym schedule is the most flexible.

That match is off. Eagle's out. See what just happened there? 

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:12PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:06PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Killabkilledb & Thedevilwuster vs LegacyRO3 & Eaglenitewillow {Eaglenitewillow1}

Can we discuss availability times? This is short notice but I am available the rest of tonight....

Not sure what time zones your are in but after 10pm eastern works for me thursday and Friday night... or during the AM....Saturday Morning or Sunday Afternoon/Night and pretty much all day Mon-Wed is when ym schedule is the most flexible.

That match is off. Eagle's out. See what just happened there? 

Enlighten me.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:38PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:12PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:06PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Killabkilledb & Thedevilwuster vs LegacyRO3 & Eaglenitewillow {Eaglenitewillow1}

Can we discuss availability times? This is short notice but I am available the rest of tonight....

Not sure what time zones your are in but after 10pm eastern works for me thursday and Friday night... or during the AM....Saturday Morning or Sunday Afternoon/Night and pretty much all day Mon-Wed is when ym schedule is the most flexible.

That match is off. Eagle's out. See what just happened there? 

Enlighten me.

Nope, not interested in explaining things to you, or talking wth you. I don't troll, follow or report you, but you decided I do anyway. Have a nice life. 

I'm out too, by the way, sorry Endarseth, Antkour and Tripp. We can still play if you like, just for fun. I just cannot be bothered with any more of this crap. Trying to organise this when half the league can't agree on anything and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun. 

Well, I appreciated the effort and said so several times. Didn't appreciate the harassment though.

At any rate, looks like this one is over folks.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:57PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Well, I appreciated the effort and said so several times. Didn't appreciate the harassment though.

At any rate, looks like this one is over folks.

Okay, I admit, you did say that. Didn't seem like it though. And can you point out ME harrasing you? The one thing I did was make a joke thread. And yes, I know this counts as talking to you, but I have nothing else to do right now. 

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

Karstien, thanks for trying. I'll try to meet up with you and Tripp this evening. Found an excellent random three nights ago. Maybe it will happen again.
Now time to clock out, grab some beer and get ready for the debate.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:09PM, thedevilwuster wrote:

Karstien, thanks for trying. I'll try to meet up with you and Tripp this evening. Found an excellent random three nights ago. Maybe it will happen again. Now time to clock out, grab some beer and get ready for the debate.

That would be fun devil, was looking forward to playing you again. Have a great night. What debate? Lol. 

The presidential debate for North America, which doesnt really matter at all cuz Obama is gonna win hands down.

Thats why tonight I am just playing Borderlands and if anyone wants to play magic send me an invite.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

this is what u said " and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun"

the one who aren't saying nothing are what i call no shows they offer nothing to the tournament  It seems like your really mad at killa but at least he has an opinion even if some times hes just trolling. If we had more people with opinion we wouldn't be so focus on one persons opinion. And if what killa is doing is ruining the tournament (which i don't think he is). then we as a group should come up with rules to eliminate people who cant follow them like a voting system.

At least killa offers his opinion if you don't agree with or think its trolling just move on with out a response we all need to have thinker skin and not let everything get to us.

I agree with Crysus. From the get go there should had been some people blocked from entering the league like killa and drone. Those 2 are the only ones I have seen actually conplaint about people's posts and also entice/feed the trolls.

The league should consist of the better "men", those that won't sucumb to the trolling/flaming/bating, I am sorry but Karstien you would have to be out too or not let stuff get under your skin.

Sweet, can we start immediatly?  No shows  are a real legitimate problem, as they tear apart things like this.   Ditch them immediatly is my vote, I completely agree with killa on this.  Good luck everyone, wanderer I left some strategy ideas I. Your inbox (no im not the heir to the throne of rwanda wanting you to help me funnel funds from my offshore acct)

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:44PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

this is what u said " and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun"

the one who aren't saying nothing are what i call no shows they offer nothing to the tournament  It seems like your really mad at killa but at least he has an opinion even if some times hes just trolling. If we had more people with opinion we wouldn't be so focus on one persons opinion. And if what killa is doing is ruining the tournament (which i don't think he is). then we as a group should come up with rules to eliminate people who cant follow them like a voting system.

At least killa offers his opinion if you don't agree with or think its trolling just move on with out a response we all need to have thinker skin and not let everything get to us.

They did show though. they did post, just not anything relevant. You want to ban everybody who has no ideas? Good luck with that. And I agreed with quite a few of his ideas. Look back and see. What he was doing on here was not trolling, never once did I say it was, but was it really necassary? No. Was it helpful? Sometimes, mostly it was pointless, like a lot of the posts. If I ran things to tightly, i'm a control freak, if I don't, then nothing damn well happens. That is work with no reward, so i'm out. 

In short, WE as a group don't need to come up with anything. YOU as a group, can do what you like. If you want to try again, you do it without mine or eagles input or help. If you want to invite me, can't say that I won't join for certain, but I can't say I will either. Not my call, won't have any input at all either way. Good luck guys and girls, I really mean that. 

Oct 3, 2012 -- 3:59PM, killabkilledb wrote:

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Who even talks like that? I tried to be nice about it but the fact is you were out to sabotage it from the geet go. Having a problem with karstien doing the random decks. Wanting him to do everything your way...


As far as I am concerned had you not been a participant then this would have happened.



And as a side not, it's not following you when every other post/thread is yours. You claim not to be on here much but we all know this is a blatant lie.

And if anything it looks like your baiting him not the other way around...

 
Moving on...

Oct 3, 2012 -- 4:14PM, tripp2300 wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 3:59PM, killabkilledb wrote:

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Who even talks like that? I tried to be nice about it but the fact is you were out to sabotage it from the geet go. Having a problem with karstien doing the random decks. Wanting him to do everything your way...


As far as I am concerned had you not been a participant then this would have happened.



And as a side not, it's not following you when every other post/thread is yours. You claim not to be on here much but we all know this is a blatant lie.

Moving on...      

Leave him to it Tripp, i'm over trying to bend over backwards to accomadate everybody. I'm just gonna go play the game. Anybody want's to join us, I sent all of you requests. Well, all of you with their psn id's up correctly. I think Aaronjonchesney's is wrong. And one other player too. 

just so everyone knows, i have dropped from this and i had wizards lock the official thread i made for this 2hg league.

 

lol bunch of females. sitting here arguing about nothing like you in middle school.

above is exactly why i had it done

Oct 3, 2012 -- 5:12PM, LegacyRO3 wrote:

lol bunch of females. sitting here arguing about nothing like you in middle school.

That's sexist bro.

Well, since this tournament seems to be through, I'll probably be starting a new one myself. Stay tuned in the next couple of days as I'll be posting the details.

Hell yeah soritami!  Lets just do this...  If someone has a problem with trolling/baiting then they can stay away from forums of any kind entirely.  Someone threw around accusations about immaturity?!  This is a fantasy card game were discussing, not british parlimentary procedures lol  immaturity is assumed.

That's too bad that this one had to come crashing down when it was all ready to go. I was really looking forward to it.

Things have really changed since killa joined this forum.  I'll just leave it at that.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 6:31PM, antkour wrote:

That's too bad that this one had to come crashing down when it was all ready to go. I was really looking forward to it. Things have really changed since killa joined this forum. I'll just leave it at that.

"If they be nice to us, We be nice to them" ---Smeagol

soritami i like that idea and you can count me in.

Oct 3, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:44PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

this is what u said " and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun"

the one who aren't saying nothing are what i call no shows they offer nothing to the tournament  It seems like your really mad at killa but at least he has an opinion even if some times hes just trolling. If we had more people with opinion we wouldn't be so focus on one persons opinion. And if what killa is doing is ruining the tournament (which i don't think he is). then we as a group should come up with rules to eliminate people who cant follow them like a voting system.

At least killa offers his opinion if you don't agree with or think its trolling just move on with out a response we all need to have thinker skin and not let everything get to us.

They did show though. they did post, just not anything relevant. You want to ban everybody who has no ideas? Good luck with that. And I agreed with quite a few of his ideas. Look back and see. What he was doing on here was not trolling, never once did I say it was, but was it really necassary? No. Was it helpful? Sometimes, mostly it was pointless, like a lot of the posts. If I ran things to tightly, i'm a control freak, if I don't, then nothing damn well happens. That is work with no reward, so i'm out. 

In short, WE as a group don't need to come up with anything. YOU as a group, can do what you like. If you want to try again, you do it without mine or eagles input or help. If you want to invite me, can't say that I won't join for certain, but I can't say I will either. Not my call, won't have any input at all either way. Good luck guys and girls, I really mean that. 

why do u have to twist my words to make a point bro. i said everyone that's in the tournament should post at least once every 5-7 days and we vote if or not to keep said person. 

I did not say i want to ban everyone with out ideas.

you let killa get to u and now your mad that no one is on your side so you give up if that's the way you are then you shouldn't had made this tournament . we all play games online we deal with people like him all the time.

you didn't have to give up on everyone that depend on you to make this happen you could have just kick killa out if it was that serious but you let him win an let us down. 

you ended a tournament with 17 people in because you could not deal with one person?

bro there will be more tournament with or with out man up and stop letting a little trolling get to you.

and next time you response to my post try to use what i actually said against me.
i have no problem with and loved what you did for us up in tell you gave up.

this is not an attack just a friendly message. 

thank you for reading.




 

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:29PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:44PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

this is what u said " and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun"

the one who aren't saying nothing are what i call no shows they offer nothing to the tournament  It seems like your really mad at killa but at least he has an opinion even if some times hes just trolling. If we had more people with opinion we wouldn't be so focus on one persons opinion. And if what killa is doing is ruining the tournament (which i don't think he is). then we as a group should come up with rules to eliminate people who cant follow them like a voting system.

At least killa offers his opinion if you don't agree with or think its trolling just move on with out a response we all need to have thinker skin and not let everything get to us.

They did show though. they did post, just not anything relevant. You want to ban everybody who has no ideas? Good luck with that. And I agreed with quite a few of his ideas. Look back and see. What he was doing on here was not trolling, never once did I say it was, but was it really necassary? No. Was it helpful? Sometimes, mostly it was pointless, like a lot of the posts. If I ran things to tightly, i'm a control freak, if I don't, then nothing damn well happens. That is work with no reward, so i'm out. 

In short, WE as a group don't need to come up with anything. YOU as a group, can do what you like. If you want to try again, you do it without mine or eagles input or help. If you want to invite me, can't say that I won't join for certain, but I can't say I will either. Not my call, won't have any input at all either way. Good luck guys and girls, I really mean that. 

why do u have to twist my words to make a point bro. i said everyone that's in the tournament should post at least once every 5-7 days and we vote if or not to keep said person. 

I did not say i want to ban everyone with out ideas.

you let killa get to u and now your mad that no one is on your side so you give up if that's the way you are then you shouldn't had made this tournament . we all play games online we deal with people like him all the time.

you didn't have to give up on everyone that depend on you to make this happen you could have just kick killa out if it was that serious but you let him win an let us down. 

you ended a tournament with 17 people in because you could not deal with one person?

bro there will be more tournament with or with out man up and stop letting a little trolling get to you.

and next time you response to my post try to use what i actually said against me.
i have no problem with and loved what you did for us up in tell you gave up.

this is not an attack just a friendly message. 

thank you for reading.




 

Okay, let's respond to what you actually said. Not use it against you, no point. Just respond. 

Every 5-7 days of not posting? I don't really care personally if they don't post, just if they don't post when they should. If you want a rule like that though, it's fine by me. I just wouldn't implement it myself. 

I'm not letting him get to me, but i'm not playing his games either. Banning him doesn't really make me happy, since I don't like doing that anyway, and I think his partner is okay, so I don't want to just throw him either. 

I haven't given up on everybody exactly, just the tournament. If you want another, that's fine. If you wanna play, that's great too. I just don't feel like running one for what seems like no reason. If people still want this, i'll be happy to keep your scores and sort your decks I guess. Sorry if you really feel I let you down, but eagle and myself asked one thing; leave the other thread alone so we could keep it in order. 

No need to thank me for reading. Was bound to happen, lol. 

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:29PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:44PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

this is what u said " and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun"

the one who aren't saying nothing are what i call no shows they offer nothing to the tournament  It seems like your really mad at killa but at least he has an opinion even if some times hes just trolling. If we had more people with opinion we wouldn't be so focus on one persons opinion. And if what killa is doing is ruining the tournament (which i don't think he is). then we as a group should come up with rules to eliminate people who cant follow them like a voting system.

At least killa offers his opinion if you don't agree with or think its trolling just move on with out a response we all need to have thinker skin and not let everything get to us.

They did show though. they did post, just not anything relevant. You want to ban everybody who has no ideas? Good luck with that. And I agreed with quite a few of his ideas. Look back and see. What he was doing on here was not trolling, never once did I say it was, but was it really necassary? No. Was it helpful? Sometimes, mostly it was pointless, like a lot of the posts. If I ran things to tightly, i'm a control freak, if I don't, then nothing damn well happens. That is work with no reward, so i'm out. 

In short, WE as a group don't need to come up with anything. YOU as a group, can do what you like. If you want to try again, you do it without mine or eagles input or help. If you want to invite me, can't say that I won't join for certain, but I can't say I will either. Not my call, won't have any input at all either way. Good luck guys and girls, I really mean that. 

why do u have to twist my words to make a point bro. i said everyone that's in the tournament should post at least once every 5-7 days and we vote if or not to keep said person. 

I did not say i want to ban everyone with out ideas.

you let killa get to u and now your mad that no one is on your side so you give up if that's the way you are then you shouldn't had made this tournament . we all play games online we deal with people like him all the time.

you didn't have to give up on everyone that depend on you to make this happen you could have just kick killa out if it was that serious but you let him win an let us down. 

you ended a tournament with 17 people in because you could not deal with one person?

bro there will be more tournament with or with out man up and stop letting a little trolling get to you.

and next time you response to my post try to use what i actually said against me.
i have no problem with and loved what you did for us up in tell you gave up.

this is not an attack just a friendly message. 

thank you for reading.

 

I can hear you.

and Kartisen, run your tounry bro. See if Wuster can find a new partner... I'd rather back out than let everyone else suffer because you are a quitter.

Have fun and good luck all

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:44PM, killabkilledb wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:29PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 3:09PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:44PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:06PM, Karstien wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 2:03PM, thelivingcrysus wrote:

this comes at no surprise this is how psn tournaments usually go  we need to have stricter rules on who gets in you guys should have taking my 5 ay no post rule seriously. And stop letting no shows in.

It has nothing to do with the no shows at all. Where are you getting that?

this is what u said " and the other half don't say a word to help one way or the other, and none of them appreciate it isn't my idea of fun"

the one who aren't saying nothing are what i call no shows they offer nothing to the tournament  It seems like your really mad at killa but at least he has an opinion even if some times hes just trolling. If we had more people with opinion we wouldn't be so focus on one persons opinion. And if what killa is doing is ruining the tournament (which i don't think he is). then we as a group should come up with rules to eliminate people who cant follow them like a voting system.

At least killa offers his opinion if you don't agree with or think its trolling just move on with out a response we all need to have thinker skin and not let everything get to us.

They did show though. they did post, just not anything relevant. You want to ban everybody who has no ideas? Good luck with that. And I agreed with quite a few of his ideas. Look back and see. What he was doing on here was not trolling, never once did I say it was, but was it really necassary? No. Was it helpful? Sometimes, mostly it was pointless, like a lot of the posts. If I ran things to tightly, i'm a control freak, if I don't, then nothing damn well happens. That is work with no reward, so i'm out. 

In short, WE as a group don't need to come up with anything. YOU as a group, can do what you like. If you want to try again, you do it without mine or eagles input or help. If you want to invite me, can't say that I won't join for certain, but I can't say I will either. Not my call, won't have any input at all either way. Good luck guys and girls, I really mean that. 

why do u have to twist my words to make a point bro. i said everyone that's in the tournament should post at least once every 5-7 days and we vote if or not to keep said person. 

I did not say i want to ban everyone with out ideas.

you let killa get to u and now your mad that no one is on your side so you give up if that's the way you are then you shouldn't had made this tournament . we all play games online we deal with people like him all the time.

you didn't have to give up on everyone that depend on you to make this happen you could have just kick killa out if it was that serious but you let him win an let us down. 

you ended a tournament with 17 people in because you could not deal with one person?

bro there will be more tournament with or with out man up and stop letting a little trolling get to you.

and next time you response to my post try to use what i actually said against me.
i have no problem with and loved what you did for us up in tell you gave up.

this is not an attack just a friendly message. 

thank you for reading.

 

I can hear you.

and Kartisen, run your tounry bro. See if Wuster can find a new partner... I'd rather back out than let everyone else suffer because you are a quitter.

Have fun and good luck all

That killa, in the real world, is called baiting. And tbh i completely undestand why he backed out. You were out to get him from the get go and anyone who knows you knows it. I mean let's see, karstien posts it, says he will make the random decks, you cry and say he might cheat. Did you do this to any of the other tourney's? No. 

 I have not talked much in the thread, because I was OK with rules and else, as was everybody else. Except one person, so I see.

Karstien, as a tourney organizer, You cant just call everything off because one person doesnt agree / doesnt like You / is generally... provoking. You let that one person go, not go Yourself. It may sound harsh, but be responsible. Your tourney, Your rules, if someone doesnt like it, kick him - simple as that.

I am, if it does any difference, still in. No reason to drop it all after few weeks of planning. All Your,and eagles,  work will go to waste just because of one individual. Thats simply wrong.

That being said, I support You guys on your final decision. If all else fails, we can always play "casual", not tourney format

Oct 4, 2012 -- 3:03AM, EndarSeth wrote:

 I have not talked much in the thread, because I was OK with rules and else, as was everybody else. Except one person, so I see.

Karstien, as a tourney organizer, You cant just call everything off because one person doesnt agree / doesnt like You / is generally... provoking. You let that one person go, not go Yourself, . It may sound harsh, but be responsible. Your tourney, Your rules, if someone doesnt like it, kick him - simple as that.

I am, if it does any difference, still in. No reason to drop it all after few weeks of planning. All Your,and eagles,  work will go to waste just because of one individual. Thats simply wrong.

That being said, I support You guys on your final decision. If all else fails, we can always play "casual", not tourney format

Endar, you can be as harsh as you like, I appreciate the input. If you all want the league to continue, i'll keep it up for you, bt we have already lost at least one team, probably two, and i'm fast losing any motivation I have to do any of this, including play. It was my tourney, but I made the stupid mistake of allowing it to be a democracy. Shouldn't have, but there you have it. Hope the next guy doesn't do this. 

For the record, it isn't just one guy...i've never blamed just one guy, despite insistance (without proof) that I have, and I don't care who likes me or not. Make of it what you will. 

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NEW 2HG tournament is here:  

community.wizards.com/go/thread/view/758...(this_time_its_for_real)

Please join!

Good luck Soritami, i'll go ask a mod to delete this thread for you. Oh, and consider just giving each team 8 decks and letting them choose which player uses which. No duplicates that way. Just a suggestion.  

Locking this thread at the OP's request. As Soratami said, there's a new PSN 2HG Tournament HERE.