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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 4:53PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Latest Developments, which goes live Friday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 9:38PM
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I do have interest in learning more about the Vapor Ops test....
As for the card....
it doesnt surprise me....
1 for a 2/2 (at least to me) looks kind of tame compared to other cards that are in the set....
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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 10:10PM
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Mar 20, 2011
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Yeah, creatures have been pushed so heavily that a 2/2 can't block for R is now pretty much too WEAK to be impressive. I mean, we've had 2 mana 6/7's, and 1 mana 2/2 haste with no real drawback. Jade Leech had a drawback in Invasion. Now we're mostly indifferent to the 4 mana 5/5 with upside.
What I'd love to see is a SPELL that would have been considered pushing the power curve in 2000. Or even merely BELOW the power curve, as opposed to laughably bad. Seriously. Haven't had one since PtE, and that's a creature kill spell.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 10:29PM
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Part of me would be happier if this was mono-red, especially if it was a goblin.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 10:40PM
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"In making a card like Rakdos Cackler, we are not trying to obsolete similar past cards, but instead trying to revive these archetypes, possibly even allowing cards of similar kinds to see more play since they have compatriots." Give me a break. "Obsolet[ing] similar past cards" happens constantly. Tell me about Loxodon Hierarch  . When is the last time he was considered good? How about Rumbling Slum  and Giant Solifuge  ? Highlights of the first Ravnica block's tournament scene, dollar rares now. How long did it take for Baneslayer Angel  to go from the epitome of a midrange creature to garbage? Woolly Thoctar  and Leatherback Baloth  are just about as efficient as cards can be without being named "Tarmogoyf," and have never been appreciated as such. I think it's time for you to admit that you've concluded that the majority of your audience is some kind of powergamer, whether tournament or casual, and all this power creep (yes, I said power creep) is just marketing. Actually, it's past time.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 11:56PM
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@crimson_sunrise
He didn't say that it doesn't happen all the time. He said they don't do it for the sake of doing it, and try to give a good reason why CARDNAME should be pushed in this particular environment.
"Power Creep" as you put it, is something that had to happen. Spells were so OP back in the day that creatures were just too undervalued to play. Which doesn't make sense when you consider that 48-54% of all sets are creatures and 2 or 3 of them saw constructed play. I think creatures are where they need to be now, pushing them any further will probably be overkill.
As for those cards you mentioned. A lot of those are still great cards, but what made them great was how useful they were in their environments. Not everyone can be a all-format-all-star like Tarmogoyf.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 20, 2012 - 11:56PM
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Guessed it right in one :D
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9 months ago ::
Sep 21, 2012 - 12:01AM
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I would definitely love to see an updated Vapor Ops test.
Also this was a fine article, one that was overdue given ho high-profile those Lazy Goblin comments had become. But it wasn't the burn in 2003 that would have made Lazy Goblin too good. It was the goblin tribal. Perhaps you're thinking of the burn from 1998.
This card's not that exciting but it's only Uncommon so I don't think they were expecting much "wow".
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9 months ago ::
Sep 21, 2012 - 12:11AM
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I'm a control player and I actually like it when you print really good creatures that makes my life hard. What I have a problem with is idiotic cards like Cavern of Souls  which is just a big **** you. Also I hope you are aware of how many things you ruin by printing insane creatures like Wolfir Silverheart  , Thragtusk  and the new 2x5/5 selsnya wurm. (Hint: they are NOT delver decks nor control decks)
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Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.
The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.
I hope you all feel really smart now. 
This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"
I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.
Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.
I wish more girls play magic cards...
Have you considered assassinating Kevin?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 21, 2012 - 12:31AM
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Sep 18, 2005
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Could we perhaps have an article addressing what Development considers to be recent 'fair' cards at various costs? And also how far they're comfortable pushing beyond that point?
Because quite frankly, I can't tell what's 'fair' and what's over powered anymore...
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