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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 7:43PM
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You have no evidence for this, and given the crazy leaps of logic involved in your supposition, I am disinclined to believe you.
You're looking for the contents of the thread in {this link}.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 7:51PM
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The thread where your arguments were thoroughly torn apart and had no substance in the first place?
Yeah, great job convincing anyone with that link. Altimis thoroughly (and correctly) tears you a new one, and your point is still completely invalid and requires incredible leaps of logic and the defiance of common sense.
If champion was meant to be optional they would have made it optional.
I can't explain myself, I'm afraid, Sir, because I'm not myself you see. -Alice
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 7:54PM
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Actually, they weren't torn apart. It's just everyone denying the truth and the facts. Kunou if you're not going to be a happy soul about this, could you please be on your way? You're not adding anything to the converation and instead of insult you, it's only right to ask you to leave (even if that's not what I would prefer to do given your aggressive, faulty string of comments).
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 7:56PM
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The thread where your arguments were thoroughly torn apart and had no substance in the first place?
Yeah, great job convincing anyone with that link. Altimis thoroughly (and correctly) tears you a new one, and your point is still completely invalid and requires incredible leaps of logic and the defiance of common sense.
If champion was meant to be optional they would have made it optional.
Well, it is semi-optional. At least in the way GM is arguing it isn't. You can choose not to exile a creature, and if you don't then the creature with Champion is sacrificed instead.
If the Champion trigger forced you to exile a creature instead of giving you a choice and a consequence, you'd be getting constantly two-for-one'd when your opponent kills the Champion in response to the trigger. And nobody wants that, it feels like getting cheated.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 7:59PM
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I would have looked at more of your cards if the art on the first one (Lilith) wasnt so asinine.
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Okay, here is the clincher. I've been waiting to say this.
The "cam girl" this was inspired by was just a girl from a social networking website, Stickam. Her name was TinyTerror and she was just a regular girl who was on her webcam, totally unrelated to any type of adult content.
I hope you all feel really smart now. 
This is like someone coming into class with a bloody nose and everyone's like "Jeez what happened to you" and they're like "I ran into a wall" and everyone laughs at them for being an idiot but then at the end of the class they say "HAHA JUST KIDDING I PUNCHED MYSELF IN THE FACE!!!!!! TALK ABOUT OWNED HAHAHAHAHA"
I really enjoy imagining this from Kevin's perspective. Because in Kevin's world, Rosewater actually reads everything he types. Mark is sitting there right now, reading this, and thinking "The greatest trick the devil ever pulled. . ." Or some such. He chuckles low, then clicks on "The Best Of KEVINSET" and says "Yes, this'll do just fine. A busty lady with banding who deals direct damage to Zones!? Why this will be the star of my next set, and no one will ever believe you Kevin." Then he closes his Macbook, so his servant may move it out of the way, while another servant puts a Fetal Richard Garfield Clone lathered in Steak Sauce in front of him. Then Mark Feasts.
Sorin walked into the chamber where his newly wed bride, Vampy, awaited. A beam of moonlight illuminated his brilliant silver hair as he strode with confidence towards the bed. His shirtless body showcased his powerful abdominal muscles and he was wearing jeans with holes in the knees.
I wish more girls play magic cards...
Have you considered assassinating Kevin?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 8:04PM
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Fallingman, my argument was that if it was supposed to be optional, it would use the term "you may" like every other optional operation (and it doesn't). It would read, "When ~ enters the battlefield, you may have this champion a creature. If you don't, sacrifice it." That's the protocol for almost every other optional design. Both before and after, the context they used, without "you may" literally means you don't have a choice. If you should have a choice, it would say so, proclaiming, "you may".
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 8:05PM
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Actually, they weren't torn apart. It's just everyone denying the truth and the facts. Kunou if you're not going to be a happy soul about this, could you please be on your way? You're not adding anything to the converation and instead of insult you, it's only right to ask you to leave (even if that's not what I would prefer to do given your aggressive, faulty string of comments).
The word "instead" implies a replacement effect, not a trigger. The original event (ie. insulting) would never actually happen, and a request to leave would happen instead. The event you're describing seems more like a triggered ability, "whenever" you insult someone, you may ask them to leave. It happens in addition to the insult, not instead of it.
Also that implies that it uses the stack, so I think it's only fair Kunou gets to respond too 
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 8:05PM
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I would have looked at more of your cards if the art on the first one (Lilith) wasn't so asinine.
Proliferate, then proliferate again.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 8:08PM
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Also that implies that it uses the stack, so I think it's only fair Kunou gets to respond too
Please never talk like this to your wife. Never talk about Magic to her. Rule No. 1
Anyways, I've tried hard to be Kunou's friend. I'm leaning toward Kunou and Chinkeeyong being the same person. In which I wrote a PM to CKY inviting him to my Best of series because he is Asian and I was hoping that he would enjoy all the fine details I put into this. Something he can really get into because he is very familiar with it all. Instead, all I'm getting is jealousy, hate, and trolling. I'm so disappointed.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 19, 2012 - 8:10PM
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You may cast permanent cards that are in your opponent's graveyards. You may spend  or  to pay their costs.
The problem is that you're not very technical when it comes to English. Here JM. I highlighted the keywords in the sentence and I'm going to explain the context of the sentence structure.
The word cast sets the foundation. It lets you know that we are initially going to cast spells, but spend is the word that should be all the clarity you need. It lets you know that this ability is going to be affecting the process of spending mana. In this composition, it only denotes that a change of the types of mana you can use (due to the sentence structure). When spend is before the mana colors like that, it literally means we are only effecting the types of mana you can spend. The word pay is supplementary to this in the sentence, and is the word that supplies this meaning.
The combination of the word spend and pay lets you know that we are only changing the types of mana you can spend to pay for the costs. We are not changing the amount of mana you have to pay, just the colored requirements. If we changing the amount of mana you pay, the word pay would be before the mana symbols in the sentence structure. For example, "You may pay or to cast them instead of paying their mana cost.".
Finally, the word costs extends the ability to all the colored requirements of the permanent card's abilities. It connects to the first sentence (which defines what we are working with), then in the phrase "pay their costs", let's you know this effect will carry over on the card once you've successfully cast it and it hits the battlefield, and you can pay any mana costs of that card with or .
Astounding. You've managed to successfully combine being comprehensively wrong and completely condescending.
What you're missing is that the game already lets you spend and to pay the costs of spells - it's a legal action for any spell with a red, black, or colorless component to its mana cost. As such, any alteration to how you cast a spell - such as letting you spend or in place of    - needs to be explicitly detailed, so that both players and judges have the maximum possible clarity of wording.
Yes, it's highly and annoyingly technical. Competitive games are like that.
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