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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 11:04AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 18, 2012
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IPAD DotP TOURNY #4 ----the DLC VERSIONINFO: This will be an 8 round swiss tournament followed by a single elimination 8 man tournament seeded 1v8, 2vs7, 3vs, 4vs 5. I would like to try to complete 2 round per week and certainly no less than 3 rounds every two weeks. Rules:Spoiler:
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--Each person picks 5 standard decks and gets 5 dlc decks.
--You must use all DLC decks before using one twice and you must use all standard decks once before using a deck twice.
--If someone is kicked at the beginning of a match or in between rounds you may choose a different deck when you replay the game so as to avoid any sideboard cheating. This supercedes the previous rule
---Rounds will consist of a best of 3 matchup that pits dlc vs non-dlc and dlc vs dlc. As an example, suppose killabkilled plays thornbloom round 1
---Where both players are posting and trying to get a time to play but just can't the match will be considered a draw. If only one person is making the effort that person then wins the round 2-0. In either case, participants must list a deck for that round and consider it used to avoid giving them an unfair advantage against future opponents.
SAMPLE Round 1
Game 1: Killabkilledb uses DLC and Thornbloom uses non-DLC
Game 2 Killabkilledb uses Non-DLC and Thornbloom uses DLC
Game 3 Each participant uses a different dlc deck than the one chose in game 1/2
Whoever is the top name in the Challonge bracket uses dlc first (there is no advantage this)
Participants:-Killabkilledb-- GC: killabkilledb -- TZ: East US -- Deck: DP, CL, OD AW, PI DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM -mobius -- GC: I Abuse Welfare -- TZ: Est US. -- Deck : ED, CL, CW, BF, PK DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM-ShinHitokiri--GC: Shin Hitokiri -- TZ: Est US -- Deck CL, BF, CW, OD, AW DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM -reptyle -- GC: psmoore -- TZ: Cen US -- Deck : GG, OD, ED, AW, CL DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM- Squinter --GC: Squinter -- TZ: AUS +10 -- Deck PK, PI, OD, GG, CW DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM-Miguel_Exe--GC: Miguel_Exe -- TZ: Mexico -6) -- Deck GG, PK, CW, CL, OD DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM -lawsy2003--GC: lawsy2003 pinoymtg -- TZ: Est US -- Deck CL, DP, ED, GG, OD DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM -Schwabadoobie--GC: Schwabadoobie -- TZ: Est US -- Deck GG, AW, OD, CW, PK DLC AS, SS, MS, GM, CM Challonge URL and Image: (the image is slower to update than the link.) challonge.com/dotpipadtourny4
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 11:13AM
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May 25, 2012
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Okay, this one seems kinda interesting. I'm in.
mobiuschickenstrips.......GC ID: I Abuse Welfare.....TZ: Eastern US.......Non-DLC Deck Choices: Exalted Darkness, Celestial Light, Crosswinds, Born of Flame, Peacekeepers
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 11:29AM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2012
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Yeah the #2 Tourney is REALLY slow and should finish soon. I also like this format idea as you're not just limited to one deck Killa. I guess I will be getting the DLC after all. Just hope the manual mana tapping is better as I used to tap cards in challenges for the right mana and it wouldn't cast that way.
Also, may I recommend a 72 hour time limit max to complete each round? The waiting in between rounds is a killer.
GC ID: Shin Hitokiri Time Zone: Eastern U.S.
Non DLC Decks: Celestial Light, Born of Flame, Crosswinds, Obedient Dead, Ancient Wilds
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 3:33PM
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Jan 29, 2011
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I would be interested, but are we gonna have some time to mess around with the DLC decks prior to this? I'm a newbie as most of you that have played me now it's not difficult to beat me, but I love to play and try to learn from each match, so if you'll have me and my son I'm sure we'd be in.
GC ID: psmoore TZ: Central U.S. Non DLC decks: Goblin Gangland, Obedient Dead, Exalted Darkness, Ancient Wilds, Celestial Light
I'll have my son Billy register on here and he can post his own stuff.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 7:03PM
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Jul 11, 2012
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Sounds good. Thornbloom...ttswayne...Japan Standard Time...PI, PK, CW, OD, DP I was planning to run a (much simpler) tournament but deleted the thread as there seems to be more interest in this format. You are welcome to use the Swiss Challonge I made for it if you want (see challonge.com/dotpipad4). I can either give you admin rights (if you are registered) or update it myself as we go, whatever you prefer. The point system is currently set as 1 per game win, 1 per match win, 3 per bye. If we have to use all five DLC decks it wouldn't mind a few days to work on unlocks. One question: in game three, do we have to use the DLC decks we used ealier in the match or can we switch DLC decks for game three? Persume the former but not clear from the OP. You may also want to address things like no deck modification between games in the OP as that seems to be a hot topic for some people.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 7:45PM
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Jul 18, 2012
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Paul, of course we'll have you and your son in the torunament if you want to play  . The best way to learn is playing against solid palyers like Thornbloom and Mobius and wathcing how others work and run their decks. Thornbloom, I was going to set up a challonge so its great that you already did it... you can give me the password and we can both edit it or you can do it if you want. Whatever works for you! I'll do it myself or take the help. I'm not fussy. I really just want to play. I wanted it automated too so that site was a must for me. It keeps score and randomly produces the pairings so all we have to do in here is really keep track of decks and plug the info in there.... One: if we do a league instead of a swiss can keep the tourny running faster? In other words, can I edit scores after the fact in a challonge? This addresses what ShinH was saying. Say we get 16 people and 7 matches finished and we are waiting for the last two people. Can I plug in artificial values and then go back and edit them after just to get the next round rolling? In a swiss this would be unfair and compromise the pairing logistics. But in a league where you draw a random opponent it would be fine and would help the tournament keep rolling fast. Two: So we don't have to worry about people backing out and modding decks, I think the third match should be two completely new dlc decks though. So if people get disconnected between games it doesn't matter. Or how about this...If two people start a game and there is no CLEAR winner and someone gets kicked you replay the match and you CAN choose a completely different deck so if someone does do a dirtly little sideboard, it doesn't matter since you are changing decks. This rule would supercede the "must use all decks before using a deck twice clause". Of all the torunaments so far this seems to have popped up only once so I think that would solve it. Three: If we all need a few days to unlock decks or make decks that is cool with me. We need to get more people in here anyways and I suppose a start date a few days after the dlc hits should be fine. So what do you think, Swiss or League? How does challonge handle leagues? I think a league with random pairings allows us to keep the tourny moving faster if we can retroatively add some back scores.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 8:16PM
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Date Joined:
Jul 11, 2012
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If you want do a round robin tournament it might keep things moving I suppose. You can still use a Swiss point system. It would look like this: challonge.com/dotpipad4So effectively all pairs are set from the outset. Note that it would mean 19 rounds if we have 20 participants. Query whether this is too much for people. Re Challonge, if you are registered I will give you admin rights so you can run it (let me know your username). You can also start a new bracket if you prefer of course. It is pretty easy. Otherwise I can track match results and you can keep track of what decks people have used. Re decks, I would be inclined to stick with same DLC decks for the match (so basically you play 1 DLC and 1 non-DLC per patch), but happy to do whatever you think best. Edit @ Shin - normally in Swiss a bye is scored as a win (so effectively you do not loose because your opponent did not show). So my suggestion would be 1 per game win, 1 per match win, 3 per bye. How to decide when a bye is appropriate is a Q for Killa.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 8:17PM
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Jun 14, 2012
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Hey Killa, in the previous Steam Tournament Wizards_Sean gave a tie for a match that could not be played but both participants posted in the forums an attempt to schedule while giving a loss to someone who did not respond to requests to work-out a time during the timeframe available. This Swiss format was 3 points per round win, 0 points for round loss, and 1 point for a round tie (unable to schedule).
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 8:38PM
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lawsy2003 pinoymtg / eastern standard time / CL DP ED GG OD
How do we know who gets to play the dlc deck on the first game of the match?
I agree with the draw only if both respond here but still could not meet up and a loss to whoever doesn't respond within the time frame allotted.
Note: I changed my deck list
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 8:39PM
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Date Joined:
Jun 14, 2012
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lawsy2003 pinoymtg / eastern standard time / AW DP ED GG OD
How do we know who gets to play the dlc deck on the first game of the match?
I agree with the draw only if both respond here but still could not meet up and a loss to whoever doesn't respond within the time frame allotted.
I would say 72 hours (3 days) to at least make an effort to setup a match is not too much to ask. Otherwise we end up with tournaments like #2 where you play 1 game a week.
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