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9 months ago ::
Sep 17, 2012 - 4:32PM
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Serious Fun, which goes live Tuesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 17, 2012 - 9:41PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 11, 2009
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FIRST!
Ah-hah...
Anyway, this is a good casual card, and is obviously good in Commander, but it's a reactive enchantment at 7 that doesn't do anything possibly.
Eh, it has it's places.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 12:28AM
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Grave Pact. Grave Pact! GRAVE PACT!!!
Good job with this card, Adam.
AA
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 12:29AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2012
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So it's like Debtors' Knell  but not as good? Fair enough.
I want to be Cultured. 
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 2:38AM
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So it's like Debtor's Knell  but not as good? Fair enough.
How is it not as good? Actually, this card has a different use than Debtor's Knell. Debtor's Knell brings back a creature every turn. This card brings back your opponents' creatures to your side whenever they die for any reason. Yes it is at the end of a turn but there you go.
You kill it with on of your doom blades, you get it back. You kill it with one of your creatures, you get it back. They sacrifice it for an effect, you get it back (assuming they really felt like it was a good idea). You play Damnation or someone else plays a WoG or Day of Judgement, you get all of your opponents' creatures back. Etc... It also, protects the creatures you bring back from a chunck of black removal and gives them the buffs and weaknesses of zombies should you or someone else take advantage of that.
I personally like this card.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 2:51AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 16, 2012
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@Green - It's not as good as DK(in my opinion) because it doesn't actually do anything on it's own and is totally reactionary, and can't create stupid combos in the same way that Debtors can, and in fact doesn't actually make use of you in the slightest. I don't like really expensive permanents that not only rely on my opponent having good things to make it worth the cost, but that I actually can't make the most out of myself.
It's not bad. It just looks like a brother to Debtors and is more like a shadow of it.
I want to be Cultured.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 3:12AM
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I have to say, when I saw the art for this card on the front page, I was hyped. Even more so when I heard that it was likely to be the new Becon of Unrest (one of my all time favourite cards).
When I saw the card itself, my enthusiasm drained away.
Don't get me wrong, the effect is amazing. However, why did it have to be stuck on an enchantment of all things? They're the most boring cards in magic. All they do is sit there over the game and irritate you, like a fat bloke on a plane, who overflows into your seat.
Why couldn't this effect have been on a creature? Like, to take a random example, the awsome dracolich thing in the artwork. Seriously, it looks amazing - I thought we were about to see Bladewing the Risen's older brother - Some sort of Dragon Necromancer... thing. I really don't see why this effect couldn't have been on an undead dragon creature, even if it ended up costing a little extra - it just would have been so much cooler.
But no, instead we get some really awsome art (for a nonexistant creature), stuck on a very dull, flavourless enchantment.
Sigh.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 6:29AM
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Date Joined:
Mar 16, 2004
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Reminds me a lot of Lim-Dul the Necromancer  . But this is far better.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 1:22PM
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Date Joined:
Jan 30, 2012
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This is a sick card. It would stink in the pre-rotation Standard constructed metagame, but post-rotation it might have a home. With SOM gone, not many boards are going to have Naturalize type effects and countermagic is definitely not going to be as heavily played.
Seems like it would work well with the new Liliana.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 18, 2012 - 2:38PM
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Date Joined:
Apr 14, 2012
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I have to say, when I saw the art for this card on the front page, I was hyped. Even more so when I heard that it was likely to be the new Becon of Unrest (one of my all time favourite cards).
When I saw the card itself, my enthusiasm drained away.
Don't get me wrong, the effect is amazing. However, why did it have to be stuck on an enchantment of all things? They're the most boring cards in magic. All they do is sit there over the game and irritate you, like a fat bloke on a plane, who overflows into your seat.
Why couldn't this effect have been on a creature? Like, to take a random example, the awsome dracolich thing in the artwork. Seriously, it looks amazing - I thought we were about to see Bladewing the Risen's older brother - Some sort of Dragon Necromancer... thing. I really don't see why this effect couldn't have been on an undead dragon creature, even if it ended up costing a little extra - it just would have been so much cooler.
But no, instead we get some really awsome art (for a nonexistant creature), stuck on a very dull, flavourless enchantment.
Sigh.
Really? Enchantments are boring? What about the curses or something like search the city?
But also don't despair yet, it could be a creature depicted on this.
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