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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 2:15AM #11
alextfish
Date Joined: Mar 16, 2004
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Intriguing challenge. 5 extra cards and an extra turn if you can pull it off. Duplicate some of your best spells even if you can't pull it off. Can be aided by Riftsweeper , Pull from Eternity , or as Noel spotted Misthollow Griffin .

A few other ideas: Manamorphose is a nice spell to copy, as Pyromancer Ascension players know. Casting that and getting a copy off a Search will net you a bunch of mana and a couple of cards, ready to hopefully cast another Search target. Storm spells are another category of spells that like having copies of themselves around.

Diabolic Revelation or Insidious Dreams could be very nifty followups to casting the Search. Find out what 5 cards you need, then stack your hand/deck with those 5 on top of it in the optimal order.

I agree, the article did seem pretty short; but perhaps that's just in order to leave some of the best ideas for us? 
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 2:56AM #12
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 12:10AM, Henrietta wrote:

This card seems like it was designed by an amatuer, like something you might see on the forums. The card doesn't feel cohesive at all, it just feels like somebody had a cute idea and forced it onto a card. It's not even really flavourfully resonant.



This isn't what amatuer design looks like. It is just pretty subtle top down design with some interesting interactions. Amatuer design normally beats you over the head with purpose or power.

"I think me going Bang bang bang I win is pretty intuitive"

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Aug 19, 2010 -- 5:52PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:54PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 4:27PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 19, 2010 -- 3:07PM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Riggers , every Rigger in print so far boosts other Riggers .



Moriok Rigger does absolutely nothing to boost other riggers. You are incorrect.



Moriok Rigger is not a Rigger in print. Only in Errata

WHAT NOW!

(yes, I did put that phrase in for that exact reason)


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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 3:06AM #13
Ikbob
Date Joined: Jun 21, 2012
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I think the "play one card, get another one into your hand", although only useful in the right deck setup is interesting enough. The extra turn is just bonus. Especially in blue where you can draw, index etc..


It's also interesting for your opponent to play around. Say you have one card in hand and there's a counterspell of some sort between the exiled ones. For your opponent you either have none, or you have two. It makes for interesting play mechanics, and incidental fast turnarounds, which makes Magic interesting for me.

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 5:19AM #14
Sparks_Shell
Date Joined: Sep 17, 2012
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Anyone else thinking about Pyromancer's Ascension? It will combo well with this.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 6:24AM #15
coien
Date Joined: May 24, 2011
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 2:56AM, Dr_Demento wrote:

Sep 17, 2012 -- 12:10AM, Henrietta wrote:

This card seems like it was designed by an amatuer, like something you might see on the forums. The card doesn't feel cohesive at all, it just feels like somebody had a cute idea and forced it onto a card. It's not even really flavourfully resonant.



This isn't what amatuer design looks like. It is just pretty subtle top down design with some interesting interactions. Amatuer design normally beats you over the head with purpose or power.




This seems way more like bottom up design than top down design to me. Civilized Scholar was top down designed to be a Dr. Jekyll, what pre-existing flavor was this card top down designed to be?

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 7:12AM #16
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Search the City does work in Commander, ironically, with Scouting Trek and basic lands.  However, any deck full of four-of's shouldn't have too much trouble doing this blind if the game lasts long enough, especially if it's full of cheap cantrips.  The next thing I'd think of is combining this with Spellweaver Helix.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 8:22AM #17
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I want to use this with Mirror of Fate somehow.
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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:11PM, Test-Subject_217601 wrote:

Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 8:35AM #18
Akym
Date Joined: Sep 14, 2010
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Sep 17, 2012 -- 5:19AM, Sparks_Shell wrote:

Anyone else thinking about Pyromancer's Ascension? It will combo well with this.


My thoughts exactly. I think two of them will find their way into my pyromancer deck - should help consistency a lot, although even in that deck 5 mana might be a bit too steep to be really good. Would have been awesome at 4, but I guess they ran out of "power points".

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 8:47AM #19
Dragon_Bloodthirsty
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Sep 16, 2012 -- 9:28PM, EyeballFrog wrote:

Riftsweeper seems like a good card for that deck.




I had a similar thought.  The hard part would be making a deck that both plays with this card, and somehow manages to use it to win the game.  Getting 2-3 "free" cards would be nice if you could pull it off. Using something like Mirri's Guile to stack the deck also seems plausible and fits into the same general deck.  Flashback is nice too.


This card is more interesting than I originally thought it was.

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 17, 2012 - 10:41AM #20
Flyheight
Date Joined: Jan 19, 2010
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Okay, this card looks like a lot of fun.

5 mana-draw 5 cards, take an extra turn.  Sure there a few hoops to jump through, but well...solving such riddles is a large part of the fun in being a Johnny.
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