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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:33PM
#31
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2 mana red first striking haster is playable on its own. Graveyard hate tacked on is just an added bonus.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:34PM
#32
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Jun 25, 2012
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This hoses R/B Zombies way harder than flashback and Snapcaster Mage. Lava Spike everytime you recur a Gravecrawler or Geralf's Messenger and trades unevenly with them. Thankfully it's RR, so it should be hard to cast... right?
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:35PM
#33
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Aug 11, 2009
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Good enough to see maindeck play in aggressive decks in Standard. Probably worth sideboard slots in Modern and Legacy (if your metagame is full of Past in Flames or Dredge decks.)
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:36PM
#34
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Jul 28, 2010
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This hoses R/B Zombies way harder than flashback and Snapcaster Mage. Lava Spike everytime you recur a Gravecrawler or Geralf's Messenger and trades unevenly with them. Thankfully it's RR, so it should be hard to cast... right?
Undying doesn't trigger this ability
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:37PM
#35
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Aug 23, 2007
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This hurts control. Delver does not care about this (unless it blocks geist).
Please stop making control worse.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:40PM
#36
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Date Joined:
Jun 25, 2012
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This hoses R/B Zombies way harder than flashback and Snapcaster Mage. Lava Spike everytime you recur a Gravecrawler or Geralf's Messenger and trades unevenly with them. Thankfully it's RR, so it should be hard to cast... right?
Undying doesn't trigger this ability
Whoops, you're right. Still, it's potent vs. Zombies.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:41PM
#37
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Aug 13, 2012
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magic R&D logic: let's print broken cards, we can print hosers later if it gets crazy.
i want more red cards.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:57PM
#38
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Date Joined:
Jan 23, 2007
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2 mana red first striking haster is playable on its own. Graveyard hate tacked on is just an added bonus.
This.
I would have loved this card in Timespiral/Ravinca Standard. Here, I plan on playing gravecrawler in Red, so it's a no for now.
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 9:58PM
#39
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Date Joined:
Sep 10, 2006
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2 mana red first striking haster is playable on its own. Graveyard hate tacked on is just an added bonus.
This.
I would have loved this card in Timespiral/Ravinca Standard. Here, I plan on playing gravecrawler in Red, so it's a no for now.
B/R Zombies obviously doesn't like this but could be a go in W/R Humans.
Good in EDH
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9 months ago ::
Sep 13, 2012 - 10:05PM
#40
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Date Joined:
Jul 21, 2009
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Anti-flashback for two that comes with haste and first strike? Sweet deal.
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D&D should not return to the days of blindfolding the DM and players. No tips on encounter power? No mention of expected party roles? No true meaning of level due to different level charts or tiered classes? Please, let's not sacrifice clear, helpful rules guidelines in favour of catering to the delicate sensibilities of the few who have problems with the ascetics of anything other than what they are familiar with.
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MMORPGs, raking in money by the dumptruck full. Many options, tons of fans across many audiences, massive resources allocated to development.
TTRPGs, dying product. Squeaking out an existence that relys on low cost. Fans fit primarily into a few small demographics. R&D budgets small, often rushed to market and patched after deployment.
You're not really making much of an argument when you compare something to a MMORPG and assume people think that means bad. Lets face it, they make the money, have the audience and the budget. We here on this board are fans of TTRPGs but lets not try to pretend none of us play MMORPGs.
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Something like Tactical Shift is more magical than martial healing.
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Given the laziness and morbid obsesity amongst D&Ders, being able to convince someone to get on their feet, do some heavy exercise, and use their words to make them be healthier must seem magical.
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