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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 6:16AM #1
MasterPlo
Date Joined: Apr 20, 2012
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There is a person at my LGS that I find very confrontational during a match when I get paired up against this person, and last night was making comments about my hand while standing behind when I was in a match against another opponent.  I said some to this person about the comments last night, but I was wondering if there is a conplaint system in place or ogher than me telling this person off to issue a complaint through the DCI against another player for poor conduct. 
This may not be the right place for this thread, sorry if it is not.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 7:17AM #2
Jman22
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Well according to the rules, that guy can get DQ'd from the tournament for talking about your hand. Also, if you ask him to leave and he doesn't, that's also grounds for a DQ. Talk to whoever is running the tournament about it.
Grounds for a lot of rules breaking, including unsportsmanlike conduct and I know there's one for talking about your hand during a match. Could either be assisting you or assisting the other player. Either way, the Tournament Organizer should be doing something about the guy.
Guy just sounds like a [explitive], though, and probably just needs a swift boot to the teeth to solve his problems.

And this MIGHT be better in the Rules Q&A forum, because technically its a rules question.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 7:38AM #3
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Jman is correct, talk to your TO/Judge asap. That's a big deal and if its persistent behavior its also harassment which can make for a threatening environment, etc (should elevate the punishment).


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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 10:16AM #4
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What bothered me about him commenting on my hand, which it was a good hand for sure, was he commented to my opponent that he was in a lot of trouble that game.  My opponent had a card he was about to play from his hand and after that comment my opponent was looking at tbe pain in the ass behind me and tben played a different card from his hand instead.  Thanks for the info about this.  I didn't want to start a whole bunch of crap over a game.  But this person is getting on my nerves and those of a couple others in our group that frquents this particular store.  Playing this person is not fun because each match feels like an argument.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 10:28AM #5
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Take some time to crack the comprehensive rulebook. It has a lot of material in there someone just getting into competitive play should know.


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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 3:42PM #6
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Looks like the Magic Tournament Rules would be more useful here than the Comprehensive Rules, actually.

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10 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 4:31PM #7
MasterPlo
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Thanks I have a Comprehensive rules for 2012 I got from one of the stores here I  town a while back.  I also just googled MTG tournament rules and found a 17 page PDF file.  Thanks for your help.  I just didn't want to make a big issue of this, but I also want to have fun when I am out at these weekly events.  Its my only chance to get out and play this game we all love so much.  :o)
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 12:00AM #8
MissingTheTrigger
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Did you at least win your match?

I actually hold my hand face-down, cards stacked on top of each other, just to keep stuff like that from happening. I havent had any serious problems like what youve described, but I have had problems with people backseat playing without realizing a match was still going.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 6:34AM #9
Osu
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Sep 13, 2012 -- 4:31PM, MasterPlo wrote:

I just didn't want to make a big issue of this, but I also want to have fun when I am out at these weekly events.




And that's what the tournament rules are there for.  Sure, it's only FNM, but it's still a sanctioned event. Not only is he making you uncomfortable (which is reason enough to call a judge), his behavior is unfairly influencing the outcome of the tournament as well as evereyone's standings.
 

Next thing you will tell me Browbeat is bad.
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10 months ago  ::  Sep 18, 2012 - 2:53PM #10
MasterPlo
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Sep 18, 2012 -- 12:00AM, MissingTheTrigger wrote:

Did you at least win your match?

I actually hold my hand face-down, cards stacked on top of each other, just to keep stuff like that from happening. I havent had any serious problems like what youve described, but I have had problems with people backseat playing without realizing a match was still going.






Actually yes I did win the match the last time we were paired up.  He is a good player though, and I had always lost when paired against him untl that point.  Right now  I am playing a Naya Midrange/aggro style deck that I really like, and it is perfectly suited for the current metagame in my area (we have 4 local stores that do sanctioned events different days of the week, and there are a few of us that go to more than one).  I won in three games against him, and he was all pissy about it.  He was playing Talrand Delver, and my Naya deck is perfect at taking down delver decks....  Restoraton angels blinking out thragtusks, blade splicers and Huntmasters, all the while wiping his board with bonfires and dismembering the odd creature that would come out. I also can't forget to metion Thalia.....  He was almost foaming at the mouth. 
I can understand someone not realizing a tournament match was going on still,  but we were in game three and he knew it.  He had a buy that round and was watching the match I was in.  I generally ask before I say anything about the state of the gameboard if they are still in a match or having a fun game.  This was blatant comments in the middle of a match about how good my hand was. 

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