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9 months ago  ::  Sep 12, 2012 - 1:37AM #1
CadaverousBl00m
Date Joined: Oct 10, 2007
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This is very much the genesis of an idea in my head at the moment.
I have playsets of Kessig Wolf Run and Asceticism not seeing the love at the moment, and it strikes me that they're pretty good in tandem (stick random goon on the table, swing with it, opponent can't do jack). So from there, I just need creatures to hand out the pain, and add some padding. I've also been trying to fit Curse of Stalked Prey and Rage Forger into a deck for a while... perhaps this is it? I can curse someone, and then deal damage via Wolf Run for the counters.

Anyway, very much the first cut. SotF / Squee is here because it's available and in colour.

Wolf Run Beats v0.000001
Creatures - 20
4 Rage Forger (Beefs some of our other creatures, dishes out pain)
4 Bramblewood Paragon (Ditto)
4 Taurean Mauler (Adores the two above, as well as Wolf Run)
3 Falkenrath Exterminator (Capable of sweeping someone's board if it gets enough counters)
2 Fertilid (Colour fixing, deals with +1/+1 counters)
2 Nullmage Shepherd (Artifact/enchantment removal, Shaman for Rage Forger purposes)
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob (Combo with SotF)

Spells - 17
4 Curse of Stalked Prey (Throws counters on all the creatures above that enjoy them)
4 Asceticism (Makes our deck vaguely bulletproof in an MP environment)
4 Spidersilk Armor (Protection from fliers, and more buffage)
2 Survival of the Fittest (Threat fetcher)
3 Red Sun's Zenith (Removal, alt-win)

Land - 23
4 Kessig Wolf Run (Primary win-con)
4 Rootbound Crag
8 Forest
7 Mountain

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 12, 2012 - 4:34AM #2
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Date Joined: Jul 22, 2011
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Hope you have lots of counters ready

I'd be reluctant to play Reforge the Soul, mainly because it's unlikely to help you as much as your opponents who like graveyard shenanigan's.
I'd try good ole Rites of Flourishing  or something similar although this isn't perfect as your mana-curve looks pretty low.

Reach of Branches maybe?
 
About Spidersilk armor, are you mainly concerned with defence or with buff?
Personally I find sole defence, like Raking Canopy to be kinda problematic in MP.
How about something with Totem Armor like Spider Umbra or equipment like Kitesail / Bladed Pinions ?
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 12, 2012 - 7:34AM #3
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Date Joined: May 27, 2006
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You're trying to go too deep on too many of your cards here. While your God draws will certainly look interesting, your marginal draws will look abysmal.

First of all, I think that you need to shave some of the more conditional spells in the deck. Asceticism is cool and all, but 4 copies? Of a 5 mana do-nothing spell that's useless in multiples? That can't be right. Curse also underwhelms me. I know that you like it because it puts a fire under another player, but I still can't see myself playing 4 of them. The Shepherd also seems marginal at best. This isn't a token deck; if you're commiting 4 creatures to the table then you're asking to get blown out. I would play like a singleton Calming Verse and Creeping Corrosion , Slice in Twain , Stomp and Howl , etc.

With respect to fliers, my man has always been Silklash Spider . 4 Armors can't be right since the card is miserable in multiples, so I would consider alternatives, even if it was simply cutting 1 for a Hurricane or Whirlwind .

The Falky Exterminator is garbage. Play something like Havengul Vampire or Lumberknot instead. Lumberknot is a criminally underrated card in a multiplayer setting, Algae Gharial too for that matter.

With respect to draw, I'm a fan of Triumph of Ferocity and Harmonize . Staff of Nin and Soul of the Harvest are fine too, but you only want like 1-2 copies tops. Momentous Fall is fine in some decks, but doesn't seem right for this one. My personal rule of thumb for multiplayer decks is 6/15/24: 6+ draw spells, 15+ creatures, 24+ sources of mana. Anything with less feels too inconsistent and weak and probably doesn't have enough bombs in it. I know it seems weird to say "play 24+ lands" in the dark, but if your deck doesn't need to hit 4 mana on turn 4 then its curve is probably too low and so it will probably fall-off far too early on.

I like the RSZs, but isn't a singleton all you need? Shouldn't the other copies be say Comet Storm or something with a bit more versatility? Having the 1 to "go infinite" is fine, but there has to be a better one to just dome someone with. Demonfire , Banefire , whatever.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 13, 2012 - 9:43AM #4
Tich
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Oh, also, what about Hidden Spider ?
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 19, 2012 - 9:16PM #5
CadaverousBl00m
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Time to get back to this thread... I've neglected it a bit.

I think I agree with you guys that the three biggest holes here are anti-fliers, card draw and anti-artifact/enchantment.
1. Anti-Artifact/Enchantment
Tich is right that Nullmage Shepherd is probably not the guy (er... girl) here. I love her so, but she's going to struggle to have three friends on the table, methinks. I note that I have not a single artifact in here, so Shatterstorm variants likely go straight in. I'm wary of waxing my own Asceticism s and Curse of Stalked Prey s if I have an enchantment sweeper. I do have Primeval Light s...

2. Card Draw
This is where I'm going to struggle, really. SotF probably counts as card draw (simply because it's so awesome), but outside of that... I haven't got copies of Harmonize or Triumph of Ferocity lying around, alas. I think I've got some Collective Unconscious es lying around...

3. Anti-Fliers
Oh, man, you're dead right on Silklash Spider , Tich. I've only got a singleton, and he's currently busy tearing my Cube up.
Hidden Spider kind of tickles me, actually... I must have thousands of those things.
Raking Canopy and Gravity Well are also possibilities.
Alternatively, I suppose I can always head down the Deadly Recluse / Thornweald Archer path...

The Other Stuff
You're right on Lumberknot , Tich. I just need to find copies. Haven't bought much of Innistrad-block (have a box of RTR on pre-order, though). This deck probably needs to win via ampheasibly large hexproof trampling critters, and Lumberknot is dead on. I'm also pondering the merits of Hamletback Goliath here. Probably not a full playset due to CC, but still, he's big.
And yeah, it pays to be diverse with your X spells. I think I can probably dig some alternatives out of the collection somewhere.
I... actually don't think I've got any Reach of Branches .... that's a pity. Recursive and all...
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