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Switch to Forum Live View 9/11/2012 RC: "Operation of Orders"
9 months ago  ::  Sep 11, 2012 - 8:54AM #11
Negated
Date Joined: Jul 26, 2011
Posts: 61
Firstly: With all the color fixing available, drop Arbor Elf and splash Blue for Deranged Assistant and Mirror-Mad Phantasm . Secondly, cut the two Gravecrawler s and Disciple of Bolas . They seem good in this deck, but they're not. Bring in more Kessig Cagebreakers , so that without Jarad you can win the game with a token swarm.

Add moar Ghoultree to bring in from the Sideboard; Tormod's Crypt will KILL this deck otherwise. Maybe a Laboratory Maniac as a singleton? Get rid of the Guildmage; it's bad even in this deck.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 11, 2012 - 11:55AM #12
Kalatash
Date Joined: Apr 6, 2002
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Hmm, I currently have a G/U Mill Yourself deck that I want to update for the new Standard, and I was thinking of making it G/B for the new Golgari cards, so this is pretty much right up my alley. Of course, all this talk of Liliana makes me weary, since I do NOT want to have to get 3 copies of a 20$ card. I mgiht be able to justify to myself getting a playset of shocklands or Woodland Cemetary, but I hate hate hate spending that much on a single card.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 11, 2012 - 12:17PM #13
coien
Date Joined: May 24, 2011
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Sep 11, 2012 -- 11:55AM, Kalatash wrote:

Hmm, I currently have a G/U Mill Yourself deck that I want to update for the new Standard, and I was thinking of making it G/B for the new Golgari cards, so this is pretty much right up my alley. Of course, all this talk of Liliana makes me weary, since I do NOT want to have to get 3 copies of a 20$ card. I mgiht be able to justify to myself getting a playset of shocklands or Woodland Cemetary, but I hate hate hate spending that much on a single card.




Liliana does not seem at all necessary in this deck, but I'm also really unconvinced that this Golgari version is an improvement from the Innistrad GU version. The great thing about a card like Tracker's Instincts is that if you mill it, you can still flash it back. Cards like Grisly Salvage, Jarad's Orders and Mulch, not so much. You also get a good mana acceleration play in the GU version with a turn 2 Armored Skaab. And I agree that I really don't see the point of the Gravecrawlers in this deck, at all. Seems like another case where GU is better, as you can use Skaab Ruinator as your backup plan there.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 11, 2012 - 12:25PM #14
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Date Joined: Oct 12, 2010
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Sep 10, 2012 -- 10:54PM, DeEer wrote:

" Arbor Elf  serves a couple important roles. First, it speeds up the deck. A turn-two Splinterfright  or Dreg Mangler can put pressure on your opponent quickly"

I dont really think a turn 1 elf turn 2 Splinterfright is that good....

Anyway for commander that card looks fun. 
But like said above; worth cutting lili for it? 




I'm not even sure a turn 2 Splinterfright is anything more than a 0/0.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 11, 2012 - 9:00PM #15
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Minor quibble:

Grisly Salvage :

The word "salvage" appears on 10 other cards. Of them, six (6) care about moving cards from your graveyard TO your hand or library, in the sense that "salvage" means "save something from ruin or being forgotten." The others care about cards in a graveyard (3), or merely refer to Goblin destructiveness, which makes it an outlier to the whole.

Grisly Salvage puts things into graveyards, which is the direct opposite of what "salvage" means. It SHOULD say:

"Put the top five cards of your library into your graveyard, then return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand."

There ... you're actually "salvaging" something.
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