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Flag WotC_Monty September 7, 2012 1:43 PM PDT
This thread is for discussion of this week's ReConstructed, which goes live Tuesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
Flag Henrietta September 10, 2012 9:24 PM PDT
Jarad's Orders is not a good card. The card is just Diabolic Tutor with a creature-only clause and entomb stapled onto it. Entomb is a very powerful card -- when it costs one mana and is doing something degenerate. Dumping a Gravecrawler or Jarad into the graveyard for four mana isn't degenerate. If the other half of the card were doing something desirable for this deck it might be playable, but a midrange graveyard value deck really isn't looking for a tutor effect.
Flag SgtPepperjack September 10, 2012 10:43 PM PDT
I'm not gonna say its not a good card, but when Lili is cut to fit it into a deck, you know something is wrong.
Flag DeEer September 10, 2012 10:54 PM PDT
" Arbor Elf  serves a couple important roles. First, it speeds up the deck. A turn-two Splinterfright  or Dreg Mangler can put pressure on your opponent quickly"

I dont really think a turn 1 elf turn 2 Splinterfright is that good....

Anyway for commander that card looks fun. 
But like said above; worth cutting lili for it? 
Flag Ikbob September 11, 2012 1:43 AM PDT
It says: "Search your library for up to two creature cards and reveal them. Put one of them into your hand and the other into your graveyard."

So if you only search one creature, will that be the one or the other?
Flag FoiledTurbofog September 11, 2012 3:06 AM PDT
I think that Arbor Elf does not belong in this deck.  There are only 8 cards that cost 3 in the entire deck and like DeEer stated, a turn 2 Splinterfright is not good....... so having the elf for a 3/3 haster on turn 2 in a graveyard/creature based deck doesn't seem so hot.

And Tree of Redemption should prolly just be in the sideboard in my opinion. 
Flag alextfish September 11, 2012 4:01 AM PDT
Hey, a turn-two Splinterfright 's not that bad! I mean, it instantly dies, so it puts a creature card in your graveyard, which is good in this deck! Right? It means the second Splinterfright can be 1/1... or it pumps up Jarad a little... right, guys? Guys?
Flag SuperSpeedy September 11, 2012 4:12 AM PDT

In a long game, the chances of your opponent surviving an attack from this are about as likely as his or her chances of perfectly baking a soufflé while on a spaceship.




But where are they getting the milk from?

Seriously, though. The card is... not bad. Judging by Fabricate and Idyllic Tutor , a card that tutors for a creature and puts it in your hand should cost . Staple Entomb onto that should get you the card's cost. But I would've slashed a colorless from the card...

Flag mtgraptor September 11, 2012 5:41 AM PDT

Sep 11, 2012 -- 4:01AM, alextfish wrote:

Hey, a turn-two Splinterfright 's not that bad! I mean, it instantly dies, so it puts a creature card in your graveyard, which is good in this deck! Right? It means the second Splinterfright can be 1/1... or it pumps up Jarad a little... right, guys? Guys?



no you will on turn 3 play an almighty 3/3 Jarad

Flag Alter_Boy September 11, 2012 7:18 AM PDT
When Jarad was first revealed, I kept making "Jared from Subway" jokes with my friends. Now, they got a card for Jarad's Orders? I gotta mock up a card of Jared ordering a sandwich.
Flag Negated September 11, 2012 8:54 AM PDT
Firstly: With all the color fixing available, drop Arbor Elf and splash Blue for Deranged Assistant and Mirror-Mad Phantasm . Secondly, cut the two Gravecrawler s and Disciple of Bolas . They seem good in this deck, but they're not. Bring in more Kessig Cagebreakers , so that without Jarad you can win the game with a token swarm.

Add moar Ghoultree to bring in from the Sideboard; Tormod's Crypt will KILL this deck otherwise. Maybe a Laboratory Maniac as a singleton? Get rid of the Guildmage; it's bad even in this deck.

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Flag Kalatash September 11, 2012 11:55 AM PDT
Hmm, I currently have a G/U Mill Yourself deck that I want to update for the new Standard, and I was thinking of making it G/B for the new Golgari cards, so this is pretty much right up my alley. Of course, all this talk of Liliana makes me weary, since I do NOT want to have to get 3 copies of a 20$ card. I mgiht be able to justify to myself getting a playset of shocklands or Woodland Cemetary, but I hate hate hate spending that much on a single card.
Flag coien September 11, 2012 12:17 PM PDT

Sep 11, 2012 -- 11:55AM, Kalatash wrote:

Hmm, I currently have a G/U Mill Yourself deck that I want to update for the new Standard, and I was thinking of making it G/B for the new Golgari cards, so this is pretty much right up my alley. Of course, all this talk of Liliana makes me weary, since I do NOT want to have to get 3 copies of a 20$ card. I mgiht be able to justify to myself getting a playset of shocklands or Woodland Cemetary, but I hate hate hate spending that much on a single card.




Liliana does not seem at all necessary in this deck, but I'm also really unconvinced that this Golgari version is an improvement from the Innistrad GU version. The great thing about a card like Tracker's Instincts is that if you mill it, you can still flash it back. Cards like Grisly Salvage, Jarad's Orders and Mulch, not so much. You also get a good mana acceleration play in the GU version with a turn 2 Armored Skaab. And I agree that I really don't see the point of the Gravecrawlers in this deck, at all. Seems like another case where GU is better, as you can use Skaab Ruinator as your backup plan there.

Flag bay_falconer September 11, 2012 12:25 PM PDT

Sep 10, 2012 -- 10:54PM, DeEer wrote:

" Arbor Elf  serves a couple important roles. First, it speeds up the deck. A turn-two Splinterfright  or Dreg Mangler can put pressure on your opponent quickly"

I dont really think a turn 1 elf turn 2 Splinterfright is that good....

Anyway for commander that card looks fun. 
But like said above; worth cutting lili for it? 




I'm not even sure a turn 2 Splinterfright is anything more than a 0/0.

Flag Qilong September 11, 2012 9:00 PM PDT
Minor quibble:

Grisly Salvage :

The word "salvage" appears on 10 other cards. Of them, six (6) care about moving cards from your graveyard TO your hand or library, in the sense that "salvage" means "save something from ruin or being forgotten." The others care about cards in a graveyard (3), or merely refer to Goblin destructiveness, which makes it an outlier to the whole.

Grisly Salvage puts things into graveyards, which is the direct opposite of what "salvage" means. It SHOULD say:

"Put the top five cards of your library into your graveyard, then return a creature card from your graveyard to your hand."

There ... you're actually "salvaging" something.
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