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9 months ago  ::  Sep 07, 2012 - 12:34PM #1
WotC_Monty
Date Joined: Nov 5, 2003
Posts: 1,652
This thread is for discussion of this week's From the Lab, which goes live Monday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:09PM #2
benbuzz790
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2009
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How does this interact with storm?  If it can exile copies of spells (as with gigadrowse) then it can exile every copy of a storm spell.  I'm very surprised you didn't mention this -- it seems like an easy way to get a million counters.  Spell, exile it, spell, exile it, grapeshot, storm, exile all storm copies and the original ... 10 counters!
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:09PM #3
Vektor480
Date Joined: Apr 5, 2008
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Why is this not a Weird!?
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How to autocard and use decklist format  ---> Show
For autocarding, write [c][/c] with the name of the card inside it.

[c]Island[/c] = Island

For linking a card to Gatherer without writting the name of said card for readers, use the autocard brackets together with and equal sign and right the name of the real card. Then put the message you want inside the tags, like you would do with autocarding. Like this:

[c=Curse of the Cabal]Captain Never-resolves[/c] = Captain Never-resolves

For using the decklist format, follow this:
[deck]
4* Terramorphic Expanse
4* Evolving Wilds
...
[/deck]

It equals:

4 x Terramorphic Expanse
4 x Evolving Wilds
...



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Jan 14, 2012 -- 5:42PM, Vektor480 wrote:

I like storm crow because I really like crows in real life, as an animal, and the card isn't terribly stupid, but packs a good deal of nostalgia and also a chunck of the game's history. So it's perhaps one of the cards I have most affection to, but not because "lol storm crow is bad hurr hurr durr".


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  The Island, Come And See, The Landlord's Daughter, You'll Not Feel The Drowning - The Decemberists by vimschy



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Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:28PM, Qmark wrote:

Mar 17, 2011 -- 10:15PM, ROBRAM89 wrote:

Although I do assume you deliberately refer to them (DCI) as The Grand Imperial Convocation of Evil just for the purposes of making them sound like an ancient and terrible conspiracy.

Now, now.
1994 doesn't quite qualify as "ancient".


Oct 11, 2011 -- 9:43PM, Tevish_Szat wrote:

Oh, it's a brilliant plan.  You see, Bolas was travelling through shadowmoor, causing trouble, when he saw a Wickerbough Elder with its stylin' dead scarecrow hat.  Now, Bolas being Bolas took the awesome hat and he put it on his head, but even with all his titanic powers of magic he couldn't make it fit.  He grabbed some more scarecrows, but then a little kithkin girl asked if he was trying to build a toupee.  "BY ALL THE POWERS IN THE MULTIVERSE!" he roared, "I WILL HAVE A HAT WORTHY OF MY GLORY." and so he went through his Dark Lore of Doom (tm) looking for something he could make into a hat that would look as stylish on him as a scarecrow does on a treefolk.  He thought about the Phyrexians, but they were covered in goopy oil that would make his nonexistant hair greasy.  He Tried out angels for a while but they didn't sit quite right.  Then, he looked under "e" (because in the Elder Draconic alphabet, "e" for Eldrazi is right next to "h" for Hat) in his Dark Lore of Doom and saw depictions of the Eldrazi, and all their forms.
"THIS SHALL BE MY HAT!" he declared, poking a picture of Emrakul, "AND WITH IT I WILL USHER IN A NEW AGE OF DARKNESS -- ER, I MEAN A NEW AGE OF FASHION!"

And so Nicol Bolas masterminded the release of the Eldrazi.


Feb 25, 2012 -- 2:54PM, Mown wrote:

Rhox War Monk just flips pancakes, and if games have told us anything, it's that food = life.


Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:47PM, Qmark wrote:

Jul 11, 2011 -- 10:36PM, SleetFox wrote:

This thread has gotten creepy.  XP

Really?
Really?

The last couple days have been roughly every perverse fetish imaginable, but it only got "creepy" when speculation on Mother of Runes's mob affiliation came up?


Jun 26, 2011 -- 5:52AM, MrQuizzles wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:59AM, Mown wrote:

Jun 26, 2011 -- 4:44AM, skeindubh wrote:


4 tropical island
4 savannah
4 bayou
4 taiga
4 savannah


Nice mana base.
Not really.



Yeah, really. If my deck was going to cost $1000+, I'd at least make it good.


May 2, 2011 -- 8:18AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

I like to think up what I consider clever names for my decks, only later to be laughed at by my wife. It kills me a little on the inside, but thats what marriage is about.


Apr 3, 2011 -- 1:39AM, DrWorm wrote:

Apr 3, 2011 -- 12:02AM, crazysamaritan wrote:

Of course, the best use [of tolaria west ] is transmuting for the real Tolaria.



Absolutely.  I used to loose to my buddy's Banding deck for ages, it was then that I found out about Tolaria , and I was finally able win my first game.


Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:17PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

WOAH

wait wait wait

Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

You know, being shallow and jusdgmental aside, "I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

"I later found out that Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates with at least two other people"



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated his way into OKCupid dates



Aug 30, 2011 -- 5:07PM, RPJesus wrote:

Jon infiltrated



OH MY GOD


Nov 22, 2011 -- 3:52PM, Pontiac wrote:

The only way I'd cast this card is into a bonfire.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 8:55PM, Glasir wrote:

The short answer is that there's no rule barring annoying people from posting, but there a rule barring us from harassing them about it.


Jan 21, 2011 -- 7:11AM, Qmark wrote:


Browbeat is a card that is an appropriate deck choice when there's no better idea available.
"No better idea available" was pretty much the running theme of Odyssey era.


Jul 10, 2012 -- 11:28AM, Dragon_Nut wrote:

Or perhaps it was a more straightforward comment indicating a wish for you to be bitten (Perhaps repeatedly) by a small yet highly venomous arachnid.



Aug 3, 2011 -- 6:46PM, ChaosLight wrote:

You're an idiot, and I'm in no mood for silliness.


Oct 10, 2011 -- 7:30PM, Vektor480 wrote:

Oct 10, 2011 -- 5:53PM, Rubik wrote:

You just... Vektor it.


That's the answer to everything.


Jan 17, 2011 -- 6:16PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

Jan 17, 2011 -- 5:58PM, Ragnarokio wrote:


I think the problem is that you don't exist.


This would sound great out of context!


Dec 19, 2011 -- 9:07PM, Dilleux_Lepaire wrote:

Modern is like playing a new tournament every time : you build a deck, you win with it, don't bother keeping it. Just build another, its key pieces will get banned.


Aug 4, 2011 -- 2:15PM, Mown wrote:

Aug 4, 2011 -- 1:45PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:


I specifically remember posting a thread when I was just a witty bitty noob.


You make it sound like that's still not the case.


Jan 4, 2011 -- 3:04AM, Niklor wrote:

Rap is what happens when the c from crap is taken away.


Doug Beyer:

But sometimes it's also challenging. Because sometimes OH MY GOD, WHAT THE HELL IS THIS THING?


Mar 20, 2012 -- 1:32PM, Terti wrote:

Flashforward five thousand years (Click for atmosphere) :


Aug 15, 2011 -- 8:06PM, Veslfen wrote:

to paraphrase Jeff Goldblum, Vektor finds a way.


Aug 1, 2011 -- 12:35AM, Ragnarokio wrote:

when in rome RAPE AND PILLAGE


Jan 31, 2012 -- 11:23AM, TchainT wrote:

I always find it helpful when im angry to dress up in an owl costume and rub pennies all over my body in front of a full body mirror next to the window.


Dymecoar:

Playing Magic without Blue is like sleeping without any sheets or blankets.  You can do it...but why?


Omega137:

Me: "I love the moment when a control deck stabilizes. It feels so... right."
Omega137: "I like the life drop part until you get there, it's the MtG variant of bungee jumping"


Zigeif777:

Just do it like Yu-Gi-Oh or monkeys: throw all the crap you got at them and hope it works or else the by-standers (or opponents) just get dirty and pissed.


Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:29AM, JustTerrorIt wrote:

Apr 1, 2011 -- 10:09AM, quadibloc wrote:

It's true that Alpha and Beta didn't contain any cards like Tarmogoyf , Darksteel Colossus , or Platinum Angel . It just contained weak, insignificant cards like Black Lotus , Mox Sapphire , and Time Walk .


Normally it's difficult to pick up on your jokes/sarcasm. But this one's pretty much out there. Good progress. You have moved up to Humanoid. You'll be Human in no time.


Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:11PM, Test-Subject_217601 wrote:

Sep 26, 2010 -- 5:06PM, NeoMint wrote:

I didn't know Samurai were known to be able to cut down whole armies...


They can when they're using lightsabers !


Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:59AM, Sebanovich wrote:

Sep 19, 2011 -- 11:54AM, Long_Con wrote:

My wife brought home a baby black squirrel they found on a horse track and cared for it for a few days.  We named it Grixis, but it died. 


Unearth it!


Jan 15, 2011 -- 8:07PM, Maraxas-of-Keld wrote:

I'm a Da Vinci Neurok.





And I'm on Magic Arcana. How about you?
Oh, by the way, I'm also on From the Lab now.
Twice, actually. And now with my own submited decklist!
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:11PM #4
Thalatta
Date Joined: Apr 16, 2011
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The creativity and thought-provoking nature of the fun ability was spoiled for me by the 1/2 base power/toughness on a blue/red one drop. What the hell is up with the power creep, Wizards? I thought the color pie was supposed to be a big deal nowadays. Neither blue nor red are supposed to get better than 1/1 for one without a drawback.

You've stated in your own articles that, with the exception of Masques, indications over the past decade-plus are that less-powered blocks are actually more fun for players. You've stated that the Titans were something of a mistake. C'mon guys, there's no need to push P/T when the abilities can hold their own as it is.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:18PM #5
Negated
Date Joined: Jul 26, 2011
Posts: 61
Whee! Casual rare for my Burning Vengeance arcane melee combo deck!


Control... Is that on the stack?  
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:21PM #6
Dragon_Nut
Date Joined: Feb 22, 2005
Posts: 2,136

Sep 9, 2012 -- 9:09PM, benbuzz790 wrote:

How does this interact with storm?  If it can exile copies of spells (as with gigadrowse) then it can exile every copy of a storm spell.  I'm very surprised you didn't mention this -- it seems like an easy way to get a million counters.  Spell, exile it, spell, exile it, grapeshot, storm, exile all storm copies and the original ... 10 counters!



Pointing out that this is insane with storm would matter more if storm weren't already insane by itself.  I mean, if you're already using storm it's more an issuing of finding a way to win that isn't broken.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:36PM #7
Spuuky
Date Joined: Apr 20, 2005
Posts: 130
This is really good if you are expecting all your spells to be countered. Because it slides under everything on turn 1, then you eat all your spells as your opponent counters them.

Oh, that's right, counterspells don't exist in Magic anymore.

Well, I guess I can just eat a handful of Pacts on turn 1? 
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:37PM #8
EyeballFrog
Date Joined: Mar 18, 2012
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Sep 9, 2012 -- 9:11PM, Thalatta wrote:

The creativity and thought-provoking nature of the fun ability was spoiled for me by the 1/2 base power/toughness on a blue/red one drop. What the hell is up with the power creep, Wizards? I thought the color pie was supposed to be a big deal nowadays. Neither blue nor red are supposed to get better than 1/1 for one without a drawback.




I would be more concerned if it were a 2/1.  Does it really matter that it has a slightly bigger ass on it?  I mean we've seen 1/1 flyers and 1/1 Haste in U and R before.  Were those power creep?

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:49PM #9
The_Great_Galendo
Date Joined: Oct 13, 2009
Posts: 131
I'd have been happier if this had cost an extra hybrid mana to cast, had been a 1/1, and had gained three counters for each spell it ate.  Even if that was too good (and it may well have been), adding an extra colorless or two to the cost should make it fair enough.

Three counters a spell is much more exciting than two.  At three counters, I'd be quite interested in building around this guy, and I like the idea of a Giant Growth being a permanent +3/+3.  But turning my spells into half a Travel Preparations doesn't excite me nearly as much.  The spells I like to play should be doing way more for me than adding a couple of +1/+1 counters.

That being said, the card actually seems reasonably good as it is.  Just not as exciting.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 9:50PM #10
Raze_
Date Joined: Jul 26, 2008
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Turn 1: Mountain, Nivmagus Elemental
Turn 2: Cast and omnomnom 5 Pacts from Future Sight (any ones are fine, Niv isn't a picky eater). Cast Assault Strobe on 11/12 Niv. Attack for 22 damage.

Cool
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