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Flag alzabo September 23, 2012 5:00 AM PDT
Why not just use overrun rather than the PathBreaker Wurm?
Flag AzazelWandering September 23, 2012 8:13 PM PDT

Sep 23, 2012 -- 5:00AM, alzabo wrote:

Why not just use overrun rather than the PathBreaker Wurm?


I chose it for a few reasons actually, although I'm interested to know if you agree:

1) If I don't hit a VineLasher Kudzu , the second biggest creature in this deck is the 4/4 form of SkinShifter and I feel like I needed another decently sized body to push damage through in a worse case scenario.
2) Ideally, VineLasher Kudzu will keep growing (sometimes by +2/+2 a turn) which makes it permanently having Trample a very intimidating prospect.
3) Most of the other creatures are small (1/1's and 2/2's and some benefit from dying) which means they often won't last long enough to see an OverRun .


I also considered Bellowing TangleWurm for this spot - thoughts?

I always preferred Triumph Of The Horde over OverRun .

Flag AzazelWandering September 23, 2012 9:51 PM PDT

This deck was inspired by the various Token builds surrounding Sorin, Lord Of Innistrad


Token Boost for $14.40


4 Sejiri Steppe
18 Plains


4 Icatian Crier
4 GoldNight Commander


4 Gaze Of Justice
4 Gather The TownsFolk
4 Raise The Alarm
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Spare From Evil
4 Master's Call
3 Glorious Anthem
3 Captain's Call  


Make Tokens (with Gather The TownsFolk , Master's Call and others), Boost the Tokens (with Intangible Virtue , Glorious Anthem and others) and Swing for the Win (with Sejiri Steppe , and Spare From Evil ).


Gaze Of Justice offers cheap re-usable removal, and Icatian Crier helps minimize late-game dead draws.

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 24, 2012 12:55 AM PDT

Sep 23, 2012 -- 8:13PM, AzazelWandering wrote:




I also considered Bellowing TangleWurm for this spot - thoughts?




I would go with the bellowing tanglewurm personally. Not only is he a little bit cheaper to cast, but he's not as dependant on having another creature in play. On top of that he gives a nice bonus to all your creatures instead of just one other.

And now to actually start working on a deck of my own for here (like I said I would a few pages ago) Tongue Out

Flag HonorBasquiat September 24, 2012 1:41 AM PDT

Sep 23, 2012 -- 9:51PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

This deck was inspired by the various Token builds surrounding Sorin, Lord Of Innistrad


Token Boost for $14.40


4 Sejiri Steppe
18 Plains


4 Icatian Crier
4 GoldNight Commander


4 Gaze Of Justice
4 Gather The TownsFolk
4 Raise The Alarm
4 Intangible Virtue
4 Spare From Evil
4 Master's Call
3 Glorious Anthem
3 Captain's Call  


Make Tokens (with Gather The TownsFolk , Master's Call and others), Boost the Tokens (with Intangible Virtue , Glorious Anthem and others) and Swing for the Win (with Sejiri Steppe , and Spare From Evil ).


Gaze Of Justice offers cheap re-usable removal, and Icatian Crier helps minimize late-game dead draws.


I like this deck a lot, hypothethically, how would you do this on a budget of say $40 dollars instead of $20?

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 24, 2012 3:12 AM PDT
okay, so I did some poking around on the gatherer and then I decided to do a variant of a deck my old friend used to have. I'm not sure how well it will do, since I basically whipped it up on the fly, but I figure it can't hurt right?

The Voltaic Key master deck


$13.02
creatures:
x4 x Trinket Mage
x4 x Signal Pest
x4 x Spire Golem
x4 x Augury Owl
x2 x Grand Architect

Artifacts:
x4 x Voltaic Key
x3 x Prototype Portal
x4 x liquimetal coating

Spells:
x3 x March of the Machines
x4 x Cancel
x2 x Sleep

Lands:
x22 x Island


Basically, the Trinket Mages help you tutor up the keys and pests, then you dump em on the portals and clone away. Once you have enough, drop march of the machines and go to town. The Grand Architect are there to help speed things up, and give a little boost to the blue creatures in the deck (but mostly to speed things up.) Also with the march out, Liquimetal Coating turns into " : destroy target Land"

Also, if I didn't run out of "money", I would replace 8 islands for playsets of Cloudpost and Glimmerpost to help maximize the key production.
Flag alzabo September 24, 2012 10:57 AM PDT

Sep 23, 2012 -- 8:13PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Sep 23, 2012 -- 5:00AM, alzabo wrote:

Why not just use overrun rather than the PathBreaker Wurm?


I chose it for a few reasons actually, although I'm interested to know if you agree:

1) If I don't hit a VineLasher Kudzu , the second biggest creature in this deck is the 4/4 form of SkinShifter and I feel like I needed another decently sized body to push damage through in a worse case scenario.
2) Ideally, VineLasher Kudzu will keep growing (sometimes by +2/+2 a turn) which makes it permanently having Trample a very intimidating prospect.
3) Most of the other creatures are small (1/1's and 2/2's and some benefit from dying) which means they often won't last long enough to see an OverRun .


I also considered Bellowing TangleWurm for this spot - thoughts?

I always preferred Triumph Of The Horde over OverRun .



I like either Bellowing Tanglewurm or Overrun over Pathbreaker Wurm for a couple reasons:
1) Pathbreaker wurm has to be soulbound to activate trample -- this screams "remove me." 
2) If your opponent is hessitant about removing young wolf or viridian emissary early game (which they likely will be since those cards help you when they die) it plays directly into what you want when setting up an overrun -- multiple creatures on the field. 
3) both come out earlier than pathbreaker wurm.

I would not use triumph of the horde unless you're willing to pack a playset.  If you swing and one of your creatures gets diminish ed or removed (or even worse, they all get fog ged), you may not end up delivering 10 counters.  You've just completely wasted an attack phase unless you're lucky enough to draw into the only other copy of triumph of the horde .

Flag zedestroyer September 24, 2012 7:07 PM PDT
Thistledown Liege Deck - 14.93$

Lands ( 22 ):
3 x Evolving Wilds
3 x Terramorphic Expanse
8 x Island
8 x Plains

Creatures ( 20 ):
4 x Thistledown Liege
4 x Esper Stormblade
4 x Bant Sureblade
4 x Deft Duelist
4 x Guiding Spirit

Instants( 14 ):
4 x Brave the Elements
4 x Hindering Light
3 x Negate
3 x Oust

Sorceries ( 4 )
4 x See Beyond

The objective of this deck is to combine weaker cards to create a stronger army of creatures.

To do so the deck has some weenies to quickly start the action:  Bant Sureblade  and   Esper Stormblade  can easily get +1/+1 and additional abilities (first strike and flying) , since all creatures are multicolored.   Deft Duelist  has shroud and first strike, making it a great creature for the first turns and after that I can get even better when combined with Thistledown Liege.

After the first turns, the objective is to play  Thistledown Liege , these will give +2/+2, since they are all blue and white, to make them an unstoppable army of destruction.

To support the above creatures, the deck has  Guiding Spirit  to recover any important fallen creature and  Brave the Elements  that should be used as an offensive weapon, to allow the creatures to bypass the enemy defenses.

To protect the creatures and the deck strategy, the deck has  Hindering Light  and  Negate  to counter any dangerous spell and  Oust to remove from play any dangerous creature.

To get the needed cards, the deck will also have some   See Beyond , to get new cards and get ride of any unwanted card.

Flag AzazelWandering September 25, 2012 12:12 AM PDT

I saw a Phylactery Lich deck on these Forums which reminded me of the deck that I had built for that card, so I figured I'd post it here (after adjusting for Legality and budget).


Death's Shadow and Phylactery Lich for $14.92


4 Buried Ruin
18 Swamp


4 Death's Shadow
4 Perilous Myr
4 Immolating SoulEater
4 Porcelain Legionnaire
4 Phylactery Lich
2 MoltenSteel Dragon


4 DarkSteel Relic
4 DarkSteel Axe
4 Executioner's Capsule
4 Sign In Blood


You have two "synergies" here - that's Phylactery Lich + Artifacts (especially the Indestructible ones) and Death's Shadow + Stuff which decreases your life (especially the repeatable Immolating SoulEater and MoltenSteel Dragon ).
Basically, you win via a big Death's Shadow or an Indestrctible Phylactery Lich or (in a worse case scenario) a  MoltenSteel Dragon .

Flag AzazelWandering September 25, 2012 12:30 AM PDT

Sep 24, 2012 -- 1:41AM, HonorBasquiat wrote:

I like this deck a lot, hypothethically, how would you do this on a budget of say $40 dollars instead of $20?


$40 still isn't quite enough to just build a Sorin, Lord Of Innistrad deck - so I'd probably stick with just , and it would probably look something like this:


Tokens for $39.46

24 Plains


4 Doomed Traveler


2 Elspeth Tirel

4 Condemn
2 RuneChanter's Pike
4 Shrine Of Loyal Legions
4 Gather The TownsFolk
4 Raise The Alarm
4 Intangible Virtue
4 MidNight Haunting
4 Glorious Anthem


Shrine Of Loyal Legions is cute anti-Removal tech. 
I'm running Condemn here (as it's an Instant for RuneChanter's Pike ) but something like Path To Exile or Swords To PlowShares would be better (but notably more expensive).

Flag AzazelWandering September 25, 2012 12:35 AM PDT

Sep 24, 2012 -- 12:55AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

I would go with the bellowing tanglewurm personally.


Sep 24, 2012 -- 10:57AM, alzabo wrote:

I like either Bellowing Tanglewurm


Looks like we have a consensus. I looked it up, and it puts us slightly over the $15 budget. But for anyone reading this for whom budget isn't a huge concern - it's a good card.

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 25, 2012 1:47 AM PDT
I ran bellowing tanglewurm in a big green stompy deck I had. Dropping him the turn after I wild-paired 2 Pelakka Wurms onto the field usually left my opponent's a lil ticked. That deck was fun, but I traded it for the seed that is my current goblin deck
Flag AzazelWandering September 25, 2012 7:38 PM PDT

So I saw Arachnus Spinner while I was looking for cards for my other deck, and I decided to build around it!


Spider Tribal for $14.07


4 Oran-Rief, The VastWood
20 Forest


4 Deadly Recluse
4 Grappler Spider
4 Juvenile GloomWidow
2 BlightWidow
4 Penumbra Spider
4 Kessig Recluse
2 Arachnus Spinner


4 BoneSplitter
4 Descendants' Path
4 Arachnus Web


Oran-Rief, The VastWood and BoneSplitter are here to compensate for the low Power of the Spiders.
I realize that BlightWidow has Infect (hence only 2) but it makes a fantastically intimidating blocker.
Arachnus Spinner sits right at the top of our curve (hence only 2), bit it's pretty good.

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 26, 2012 2:01 AM PDT
I so have to show that spider deck to my boyfriend. He's been looking to make a tribal spider deck. Btw would you take requests for decks? Or possibly build a deck around a certain card?
Flag AzazelWandering September 26, 2012 3:22 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 2:01AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

Btw would you take requests for decks? Or possibly build a deck around a certain card?


Sure. Please feel free to request a deck.

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 26, 2012 4:18 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 3:22AM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Sure. Please feel free to request a deck.




Awesome! What about something like... a mono-green control deck?

Also, I was thinking of starting a thread where I ask ppl to give me an interesting card that's in modern and cheap (under $3 each kind of cheap), and I build a deck list around it. I was thinking it would be a great resource for deck ideas that I can post on my blog. Problem is, I'm not exactly sure if I should start it in the casual decks, or general magic sub-sections.

 

Flag R.G.DECK September 26, 2012 6:14 AM PDT
How about a blue/red burn and counter deck? It will probably be easy to make but I dont know where to start, I also prefer keeping it standard
Flag VRdragoon September 26, 2012 7:09 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 4:18AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

Sep 26, 2012 -- 3:22AM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Sure. Please feel free to request a deck.




Awesome! What about something like... a mono-green control deck?

Also, I was thinking of starting a thread where I ask ppl to give me an interesting card that's in modern and cheap (under $3 each kind of cheap), and I build a deck list around it. I was thinking it would be a great resource for deck ideas that I can post on my blog. Problem is, I'm not exactly sure if I should start it in the casual decks, or general magic sub-sections.





Look for Mono-Green 8post decks in Pauper, those things are brutal. I dont know exacts, but they sport:

4 x cloudpost
4 x glimmerpost
4 x overgrown battlement
4 x mwonvuli acid-moss
4 x Thermokarst
x acidic slime

There's also a creature from zendikar block that has a kicker to destroy a non-creature permanent on ETB. Basically they just ramp up, nuke opponents land, and finish with a variety of Auroch's (there are like 3 of them now) or Ulamog's Crusher .

Flag VRdragoon September 26, 2012 7:15 AM PDT
@RGDerek:

Counterburn just doesn't have the tools in standard. Counters are conditional or expensive, Cavern of Souls is a card, burn is weak. Creatures will easily outclass your removal and skirt your counters, meaning you have to race. Even the best build with Bonfire and Mizzium Mortars will have trouble keeping up.
Flag VRdragoon September 26, 2012 8:13 AM PDT
Budget Control: I built this list on MTGO for something like 3 Tickets. I don't know real world prices but it can't be that unreasonable.

Land
4 x Evolving Wilds
1 x Nephalia Drownyard
12 x Swamp
8 x Island

Creatures
2 x Archaeomancer
3 x Augur of Bolas

Spells
2 x Talrand's Invocation
3 x Murder
3 x Barter in Blood
3 x Tribute to Hunger
1 x Mutilate
3 x Divination
3 x Tragic Slip
3 x Diabolic Revelation
2 x Unsummon
2 x Duress

Artifacts
3 x Elixir of Immortality


I'm missing two cards and I can't remember them off the top of my head and its DRIVING ME NUTS but that's the general decklist. It's grindy as hell but fun to play, especially when you get Diabolic Revelation loop/Elixir loops going. You can actually see their hopes being crushed as soon as you DR for 5 and just smile at them before saying "go". I've actually beaten "real" decks with this, including W/B tokens, Naya Pod and Mono-G dungrove beats. The deck is meta'd against creatures and absolutely demolishes them.

*edit*
Don't remember what the last two cards are, but I know I wanted to include Vampire Nighthawk in the list, so that's as good as anything. 
Flag R.G.DECK September 26, 2012 8:54 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 7:15AM, VRdragoon wrote:

@RGDerek:

Counterburn just doesn't have the tools in standard. Counters are conditional or expensive, Cavern of Souls is a card, burn is weak. Creatures will easily outclass your removal and skirt your counters, meaning you have to race. Even the best build with Bonfire and Mizzium Mortars will have trouble keeping up.


Then could you make one using anyset?

Flag draco_pryde September 26, 2012 11:39 AM PDT
I've got a fairly simple but useful request. How about a version of the Classic Green Beatdown deck, lots of Mana Ramp + Big scary Creatures?
Flag rmd1983 September 26, 2012 3:18 PM PDT
seeing how this thread is in casual i'll just say you can make high tide pretty cheap. I use mine for casual multiplayer and it can go off on turn 2.


x11 Island


x4 High Tide
x4 Accumulated knowledge
x4 Turnabout
x4 Snap
x4 Frantic Search
x4 Ideas Unbound
x2 Brain Freeze
x1 Scrivener
x4 Circular Logic
x4 Serum Visions
x4 Muddle The Mixture
x4 Opt
x2 Reminisce
x4 Counsel of the Soratami

this deck should be in the $15 budget range and owns in MP games with plenty of reset cards (thinking Rewind over circular logic)
The deck is pretty much from what I scavenged off Solidarity back in '06ish which was a very pricey deck even when FoW/Onslaught fetch were pretty cheap ($60-$70/playset),                   
Flag AzazelWandering September 26, 2012 8:11 PM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 4:18AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

Awesome! What about something like... a mono-green control deck?


Infect Control for  $12.98

2 Ghost Quarter
4 Mystifying Maze
18 Forest


4 NecroPede
4 Viridian Corrupter
4 BlightWidow
2 Putrefax
2 Acidic Slime


4 Fog
4 Ichor WellSpring
4 Terrifying Presence
4 Tumble Magnet
4 Trigon Of Infestation


Basically, play the slow long game with Infect! 
Necropede acts as psuedo-Removal, and can be killed (if you need that -1/-1 counter) by Viridian Corrupter and Acidic Slime - who can also target your opponents stuff! 
Ichor WellSpring offers draw, and can be killed (for more draw) by Viridian Corrupter and Acidic Slime .

I'm not 100% sold on   Terrifying Presence here, since it could backfire, but it is one of the few Fog effects in Modern.

Flag AzazelWandering September 26, 2012 8:46 PM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 6:14AM, R.G.DECK wrote:

How about a blue/red burn and counter deck? It will probably be easy to make but I dont know where to start, I also prefer keeping it standard


$14.86 Standard Legal CounterBurn

2 Hellion Crucible
4 Terramorphic Expanse
8 Mountain
10 Island


4 Delver Of Secrets // Insectile Aberration


4 Index
4 Shock
4 FireBall
4 Incinerate
4 Searing Spear
4 Essence Scatter
4 Negate
4 Mystic Retrieval


Index sets up Delver Of Secrets // Insectile Aberration .
You finish with either Hellion Crucible or FireBall .
Mystic Retrieval lets you re-use your stuff, and you can re-use Mystic Retrieval itself!

Flag AzazelWandering September 26, 2012 8:52 PM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 7:15AM, VRdragoon wrote:

Counterburn just doesn't have the tools in standard.


Maybe not for Constructed play, but for Kitchen Table stuff...I disagree. Both Delver Of Secrets // Insectile Aberration and Grim LavaMancer are currently in Standard, Ponder 's legal, you have Dissipate , etc, etc.

The biggest reason I wouldn't be doing this is because all of the Return To Ravinca stuff about to enter Standard - gets some great stuff.

Flag AzazelWandering September 26, 2012 9:18 PM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 11:39AM, draco_pryde wrote:

I've got a fairly simple but useful request. How about a version of the Classic Green Beatdown deck, lots of Mana Ramp + Big scary Creatures?


BeatDown Ramp for $14.00

24 Forest


4 Llanowar Elves
4 Garruk's Companion
4 StrangleRoot Geist
4 LeatherBack Baloth
4 Garruk's PackLeader
4 Thundering Tanadon
4 Soul Of The Harvest


4 Rampant Growth
4 Triumph Of The Hordes


One of my biggest personal issues with BeatDown decks, is the absence of draw - not here! Both Garruk's PackLeader and Soul Of The Harvest offer repeatable
card draw, and trigger for most of the deck.
If you aren't able to simply push damage through for the win, Triumph Of The Hordes lets you Infect for the Win!

Flag AzazelWandering September 26, 2012 9:25 PM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 4:18AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

Also, I was thinking of starting a thread where I ask ppl to give me an interesting card that's in modern and cheap (under $3 each kind of cheap), and I build a deck list around it. I was thinking it would be a great resource for deck ideas that I can post on my blog. Problem is, I'm not exactly sure if I should start it in the casual decks, or general magic sub-sections.


You should post it in the Casual forum. Sounds like it could be a good tool!

Flag rmd1983 September 26, 2012 9:40 PM PDT
Empty the warrens is a good cheap card leading 6 goblins on turn 1 possibly more...simian spirit guide + mountain + desperate ritual + seething song + ETW the deck could be made for around $15 and modern legal  
Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 27, 2012 2:44 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 9:40PM, rmd1983 wrote:

Empty the warrens is a good cheap card leading 6 goblins on turn 1 possibly more...simian spirit guide + mountain + desperate ritual + seething song + ETW the deck could be made for around $15 and modern legal  




add another seething song and a goblin chieftain before the ETW, and you can swing for 22 dmg on that first turn.... cuz goblins aren't fast enough normally right?

Flag MtgElf21 September 27, 2012 2:48 AM PDT

U/G infect for 10.57$ at CoolStuffinc without the basic lands


4 x Blight mamba
4 x Ichorclaw Myr
4 x Blighted Agent
4 x Glistener Elf
3 x Unsummon
4 x Artful Dodge
3 x Apostle's Blessing
2 x Gitaxian Probe
4 x Unnatural Predation
4 x Titanic Growth
3 x Ranger's Guile
4 x Mutagenic Growth
10 x Island
12 x Forest
2 x Evolving Wilds


You can add Inkmoth Nexus if you want to spend about 4$ for each


Flag alzabo September 27, 2012 3:48 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 9:18PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Sep 26, 2012 -- 11:39AM, draco_pryde wrote:

I've got a fairly simple but useful request. How about a version of the Classic Green Beatdown deck, lots of Mana Ramp + Big scary Creatures?


BeatDown Ramp for $14.00

24 Forest


4 Llanowar Elves
4 Garruk's Companion
4 StrangleRoot Geist
4 LeatherBack Baloth
4 Garruk's PackLeader
4 Thundering Tanadon
4 Soul Of The Harvest


4 Rampant Growth
4 Triumph Of The Hordes


One of my biggest personal issues with BeatDown decks, is the absence of draw - not here! Both Garruk's PackLeader and Soul Of The Harvest offer repeatable
card draw, and trigger for most of the deck.
If you aren't able to simply push damage through for the win, Triumph Of The Hordes lets you Infect for the Win!



I don't think there's enough ramp there.  strangleroot geist should probably come out for explore or borderland ranger .  I would also drop 2 Thundering Tanadon for 2 lands.  explore is nice because of the card draw.

Flag Lightningbolts September 27, 2012 6:23 AM PDT

Sep 21, 2012 -- 9:16PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

I was suprised to learn that most MTG cards have no flavour (relative to the narrative universe as a whole) which kinda restricts my flavourful Legendary decks. So I figured instead I'd just pick a Legend and build around them. The Legend I picked is something I've never actually seen being played before Mannichi, The Fevered Dream !


Wizard Mannichi, The Fevered Dream Combo for $11.02


4 Halimar Depths
7 Mountain
13 Island


4 SparkMage Apprentice
4 StonyBrook Banneret
4 Prodigal PyroMancer
4 Sage Of Fables
4 Mannichi, The Fevered Dream
4 Serendib Sorcerer
4 Oboro Envoy


4 Stream Of Unconsciousness
4 Constricting Tendrils


The idea here is to use Serendib Sorcerer , Oboro Envoy , Stream Of Unconsciousness and Constricting Tendrils to manipulate the power of your opponents creatures (ideally, manipulate all the way to 0) and then to have Mannichi, The Fevered Dream switch them so that they have a toughness of 0 and die.


Mannichi, The Fevered Dream is absolutely integral to the decks plan here - so you really need to find one. Halimar Depths (especially alongside Oboro Envoy ), Sage Of Fables , Stream Of Unconsciousness and Constricting Tendrils all help with that.


Return to Ravnica - Downsize + Mannichi!

Flag Lightningbolts September 27, 2012 6:54 AM PDT
Weezzet Pauper...
4x Kiln Fiend
4x Wee Dragonauts

4x Assault Strobe

Fill the deck with cheep cards like Apostle's Blessing, Reckless Charge, Artful Dodge, Shadow Rift, Piracy Charm...
You can put even a Delver, some burn and/or control... Mutagenic Growth works nice too

Turn 2: Kiln
Turn 3: Reckless + Assault Strobe get your Kiln to 10/2 with double strike

Apostle's Blessing to protect your creature. Artful Dodge and Shadow Rift for unblockable bonus. I really like Gigadrowse on opponent lands or even creatures to be sure the combo goes right to his life.
Flag VRdragoon September 27, 2012 7:01 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 8:52PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Sep 26, 2012 -- 7:15AM, VRdragoon wrote:

Counterburn just doesn't have the tools in standard.


Maybe not for Constructed play, but for Kitchen Table stuff...I disagree. Both Delver Of Secrets // Insectile Aberration and Grim LavaMancer are currently in Standard, Ponder 's legal, you have Dissipate , etc, etc.

The biggest reason I wouldn't be doing this is because all of the Return To Ravinca stuff about to enter Standard - gets some great stuff.




Epic Experiment is on my list. I'm going to figure that card out if it kills me.

Flag AzazelWandering September 28, 2012 7:51 PM PDT

Sep 27, 2012 -- 3:48AM, alzabo wrote:

I don't think there's enough ramp there.  strangleroot geist should probably come out for explore or borderland ranger .  I would also drop 2 Thundering Tanadon for 2 lands.  explore is nice because of the card draw.


That's entirely possible, I tested it briefly (and it functioned) but it would probably be a good idea to add some more Ramp.


Sorry for not posting a deck yesterday - my internet continues to be unreliable!

I haven't posted an Allies deck yet, and it's one of my favourite unappreciated Tribes (and thus can be made very cheaply) so I figured I'd post one now!

Allies for $14.85

4 Terramorphic Expanse
8 Island
12 Plains

4 Hada FreeBlade
4 MothDust Changeling
4 Jwari ShapeShifter
4 Kazandu BladeMaster
4 Kabira Evangel  
4 Umara Raptor

4 Momentary Blink
4 Into The Roil
4 Mass Appeal

Flag alzabo September 29, 2012 9:46 AM PDT

Sep 28, 2012 -- 7:51PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

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4 Terramorphic Expanse
8 Island
12 Plains

4 Hada FreeBlade
4 MothDust Changeling
4 Jwari ShapeShifter
4 Kazandu BladeMaster
4 Kabira Evangel  
4 Umara Raptor

4 Momentary Blink
4 Into The Roil
4 Mass Appeal



I like this especially because momentary blink , into the roil and to a lesser extent mass appeal are all cards that you should have in your collection anyway.  momentary blink is one of my personal favorites.

Flag AzazelWandering September 29, 2012 7:57 PM PDT

Sep 29, 2012 -- 9:46AM, alzabo wrote:

momentary blink is one of my personal favorites.


Mine too!



I saw a Mill deck on these Forums recently, and figured I'd built it with a Zombie (and Budget) twist!


Zombie Mill for $15.00


12 Island
12 Swamp


2 Festering Goblin
4 Crypt Creeper
4 RoofStalker Wight
4 UnBreathing Horde
4 DireGraf Captain
4 UnDead Alchemist


4 Visions Of Beyond
4 Dream Twist
4 Trepanation Blade
2 Keening Stone


You have a few synergies here:


Trepanation Blade + any connecting attacker + UnDead Alchemist


UnBreathing Horde + DireGraf Captain
 


Crypt Creeper deals with potentially problematic cards ending up in the graveyard. RoofStalker Wight can fly, and helps connect with a Trepanation Blade .



Ideally I'd switch the numbers of Festering Goblin and Crypt Creeper , but because of the various sales happening at CoolStuffInc - it would put us slightly over budget.

Flag AzazelWandering September 30, 2012 5:31 PM PDT

I've been playing TorchLight 2 a fair bit - where I'm currently killing Werewolves - which gave me the idea for my next deck!


WereWolves for $11.69


4 Kazandu Refuge
10 Mountain
10 Forest


4 ReckLess Waif // Merciless Predator
4 Scorned Villager // MoonScarred WereWolf
4 Village IronSmith // IronFang
4 Gatstaf Shepherd // Gatstaf Howler
4 LambHolt Elder // SilverPelt WereWolf
4 ImmerWolf
4 Mondronen Shaman // Tovolar's MageHunter


4 MoonMist
4 ManaBarbs


The biggest problem with WereWolves (in MTG) is the control your opponent has over them. You are running a few options to address that problem - Tovolar's MageHunter who straight up punishes your opponent for playing stuff, ImmerWolf removes that DrawBack entirely, and ManaBarbs which punishes everyone for playing stuff ( Kazandu Refuge helps offset the lifeloss from ManaBarbs ).


SilverPelt WereWolf plus Terror Of Kruin Pass helps draw you cards.
 


Quite frankly, I'm astonished at how affordable these cards are - I'm under the impression that a very decent Casual werewolf deck could be made quite cheaply.

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade September 30, 2012 6:30 PM PDT
I have a werewolf deck floating around here somewhere that's pretty fun. never really use it though cuz it needs sleeves.
Flag Eragon0418 September 30, 2012 7:25 PM PDT
Bant Azor's elocutors

4 Azor's Elocutors
4 Thurmmingbird
4 Contagian Clasp
4 Tezzeret's Gambit
4 Gatecreeper Vine
3 Fog
4 Oblivion Ring/c] or [c]Detention Sphere
3 Azorius Charm
4 Martial law
Throne of Geth

4 Azorious Guildgate
4 Selesnya Guildgate
6 Island
6 forest
6 plains 

Sorry. no time to post price, i just know it's under 15$ 
magic.tcgplayer.com/db/search_result.asp...
Flag AzazelWandering October 1, 2012 8:40 PM PDT

I liked the look of Rage Extractor when I saw it during the New Phyrexia release, but I never bothered to do anything with it - that changes now! This is the first 5 colour deck I've built for this $15 thing too - so I killed two birds with one stone!


Rage Extractor for $13.99


2 Forest
3 Island
3 Swamp
4 Shimmering Grotto
5 Mountain
7 Plains


4 NearHeath Pilgrim
4 Vault Skirge
4 Porcelain Legionnaire
4 Spined Thopter
4 Thundering Tanadon
4 MoltenSteel Dragon


4 Marrow Shards
4 Loxodon WarHammer
4 Rage Extractor



Everything can be played most of the time (regardless of specific mana cost) - and Shimmering Grotto helps in those rare ocassions where you can't afford to pay life.


NearHeath Pilgrim (fantastic here), Vault Skirge and Loxodon WarHammer help stop your life total dipping too low.


You win via Thundering Tanadon or MoltenSteel Dragon or Rage Extractor .

Flag rmd1983 October 2, 2012 12:05 AM PDT

Sep 27, 2012 -- 2:44AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

Sep 26, 2012 -- 9:40PM, rmd1983 wrote:

Empty the warrens is a good cheap card leading 6 goblins on turn 1 possibly more...simian spirit guide + mountain + desperate ritual + seething song + ETW the deck could be made for around $15 and modern legal  




add another seething song and a goblin chieftain before the ETW, and you can swing for 22 dmg on that first turn.... cuz goblins aren't fast enough normally right?



nope, goblins were never fast enough unfortunitely. Too bad they haven't gone as far on the mythic scale to make a goblin or spell that reads "If this card is in your opening hand you may remove it from the game and put all goblins from your hand into play. You get an attack phase before the game starts." How mythic would that be?

Flag rmd1983 October 2, 2012 12:09 AM PDT

Sep 27, 2012 -- 7:01AM, VRdragoon wrote:

Sep 26, 2012 -- 8:52PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Sep 26, 2012 -- 7:15AM, VRdragoon wrote:

Counterburn just doesn't have the tools in standard.


Maybe not for Constructed play, but for Kitchen Table stuff...I disagree. Both Delver Of Secrets // Insectile Aberration and Grim LavaMancer are currently in Standard, Ponder 's legal, you have Dissipate , etc, etc.

The biggest reason I wouldn't be doing this is because all of the Return To Ravinca stuff about to enter Standard - gets some great stuff.




Epic Experiment is on my list. I'm going to figure that card out if it kills me.




Epic Experiment basically says, "Enjoy me while you can because WotC is going to ban me within a week"  

Flag Monoredburn October 2, 2012 5:20 PM PDT
I didn't make an under $15 dollar deck, but here's a brutal deck under 35 dollars:

The Artist for $33.21 after shipping on TCGplayer
60 cards
4 x painter's servant
4 x persecute
4 x megrim
4 x raven's crime
4 x duress
4 x doom blade
4 x hideous end
4 x guul draz specter
2 x cunning lethemancer
26 x swamp

servant is the only reason it is over 15 dollars, but combos so well with persecute   it's crazy.

Flag desolation_masticore October 3, 2012 7:21 AM PDT

Sep 26, 2012 -- 11:39AM, draco_pryde wrote:

One of my biggest personal issues with BeatDown decks, is the absence of draw.



Collective Unconscious
Edge of Autumn (both ramp and draw)
Fecundity
Greater Good
Grim Flowering
Harmonize (my favorite)
Heartwood Storyteller
Hunter's Insight
Keen Sense
Magus of the Library (both, but doesn't fit ramp, more control)
Masked Admirers
Momentous Fall
Pelakka Wurm
Primordial Sage
Regal Force
Rites of Flourishing
Skullmulcher (pretty cool card to build around with Viridian Emissary , Solemn Simulacrum , and Yavimaya Elder )
Soul of the Harvest (strictly better than Primordial Sage ?)
Soul's Majesty
Triumph of Ferocity

Flag desolation_masticore October 3, 2012 7:35 AM PDT

Oct 2, 2012 -- 5:20PM, Monoredburn wrote:

I didn't make an under $15 dollar deck, but here's a brutal deck under 35 dollars:

The Artist for $33.21 after shipping on TCGplayer
60 cards
4 x painter's servant
4 x persecute
4 x megrim
4 x raven's crime
4 x duress
4 x doom blade
4 x hideous end
4 x guul draz specter
2 x cunning lethemancer
26 x swamp

servant is the only reason it is over 15 dollars, but combos so well with persecute   it's crazy.



Liliana's Caress is nearly strictly better than Megrim , unless you are dealing with planeswalkers. Also I wouldn't spend $20 just for a persecute combo, and I would rather run something like Rise // Fall and Blightning

Flag alzabo October 3, 2012 9:54 AM PDT

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:35AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 5:20PM, Monoredburn wrote:

I didn't make an under $15 dollar deck, but here's a brutal deck under 35 dollars:

The Artist for $33.21 after shipping on TCGplayer
60 cards
4 x painter's servant
4 x persecute
4 x megrim
4 x raven's crime
4 x duress
4 x doom blade
4 x hideous end
4 x guul draz specter
2 x cunning lethemancer
26 x swamp

servant is the only reason it is over 15 dollars, but combos so well with persecute   it's crazy.



Liliana's Caress is nearly strictly better than Megrim , unless you are dealing with planeswalkers. Also I wouldn't spend $20 just for a persecute combo, and I would rather run something like Rise // Fall and Blightning



Staying with mono-black, just switch the persecutes and painter's servants for wrench mind and funeral charm .  Also, am I missing something here -- why are there are 26 swamps in this deck?
With so many spells under CMC = 3, it would be pretty easy to convert this to a deck centered around smallpox .  Maybe something like:

4x smallpox
4x duress
4x black cat
4x doom blade
4x geth's verdict
4x gatekeeper of malakir
4x stronghold rats
4x wrench mind
4x sign in blood
4x megrim
20x swamp

This comes in just over $15, at $16.21.  The idea is to get your opponent top-decking as fast as possible after you've dismatled their board, then beat down with the rats.  Once both of you are top-decking, you should be at an advantage since nothing is above CMC=3, and many of the spells have the potential to trade 2 for 1.  

Flag Monoredburn October 3, 2012 12:39 PM PDT

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:35AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 5:20PM, Monoredburn wrote:

I didn't make an under $15 dollar deck, but here's a brutal deck under 35 dollars:

The Artist for $33.21 after shipping on TCGplayer
60 cards
4 x painter's servant
4 x persecute
4 x megrim
4 x raven's crime
4 x duress
4 x doom blade
4 x hideous end
4 x guul draz specter
2 x cunning lethemancer
26 x swamp

servant is the only reason it is over 15 dollars, but combos so well with persecute   it's crazy.



Liliana's Caress is nearly strictly better than Megrim , unless you are dealing with planeswalkers. Also I wouldn't spend $20 just for a persecute combo, and I would rather run something like Rise // Fall and Blightning


Except the caress is more expensive than megrim, and I want to keep it mono black.

Flag Monoredburn October 3, 2012 12:41 PM PDT

Oct 3, 2012 -- 9:54AM, alzabo wrote:

Oct 3, 2012 -- 7:35AM, desolation_masticore wrote:

Oct 2, 2012 -- 5:20PM, Monoredburn wrote:

I didn't make an under $15 dollar deck, but here's a brutal deck under 35 dollars:

The Artist for $33.21 after shipping on TCGplayer
60 cards
4 x painter's servant
4 x persecute
4 x megrim
4 x raven's crime
4 x duress
4 x doom blade
4 x hideous end
4 x guul draz specter
2 x cunning lethemancer
26 x swamp

servant is the only reason it is over 15 dollars, but combos so well with persecute   it's crazy.



Liliana's Caress is nearly strictly better than Megrim , unless you are dealing with planeswalkers. Also I wouldn't spend $20 just for a persecute combo, and I would rather run something like Rise // Fall and Blightning



Staying with mono-black, just switch the persecutes and painter's servants for wrench mind and funeral charm .  Also, am I missing something here -- why are there are 26 swamps in this deck?
With so many spells under CMC = 3, it would be pretty easy to convert this to a deck centered around smallpox .  Maybe something like:

4x smallpox
4x duress
4x black cat
4x doom blade
4x geth's verdict
4x gatekeeper of malakir
4x stronghold rats
4x wrench mind
4x sign in blood
4x megrim
20x swamp

This comes in just over $15, at $16.21.  The idea is to get your opponent top-decking as fast as possible after you've dismatled their board, then beat down with the rats.  Once both of you are top-decking, you should be at an advantage since nothing is above CMC=3, and many of the spells have the potential to trade 2 for 1.  



Because raven's crime   is my discard spell.

Flag alzabo October 3, 2012 1:05 PM PDT

Oct 3, 2012 -- 12:41PM, Monoredburn wrote:


Because raven's crime   is my discard spell.



What do you do if you don't get one in your opening hand?  I think it would be much more efficient to just play a card like wrench mind that's nearly a guaranteed 2 for 1 than pack 6 extra swamps into a MBC deck for 4 cards.  Atleast with something like duress or despise you're trading your worst card for one of their best cards.  Raven's Crime , on the otherhand, is likely to trade itself and your extra lands for your opponent's extra lands and worst cards.  There's no card advantage there without building around it (needs crucible of worlds or dakmor salvage ).

Flag Monoredburn October 3, 2012 1:26 PM PDT
Except testing showed that Raven's crime is great with guul draz specter, and to keep them locked down after persecute. I've tested the deck.
Flag alzabo October 3, 2012 1:51 PM PDT

Oct 3, 2012 -- 1:26PM, Monoredburn wrote:

Except testing showed that Raven's crime is great with guul draz specter, and to keep them locked down after persecute. I've tested the deck.



Ok, I gotcha'.  You're using it to set up for sort of a poor man's abyssal persecutor .  I think I might try something similar but use sangromancer & ad nauseam with raven's crime .  That would set up for T4 sangromancer, T5 ad nauseam --> fill up your hand and start tossing lands to empty opponents hand and gain all your life back.  You wouldn't need the painter's servant combo, whcih should keep it under $15.

Flag alzabo October 4, 2012 6:05 AM PDT
New deck.  This is not completely original, but it's a deck I haven't seen very often.

4x vault skirge
4x pierce strider
2x precursor golem
4x galvanic blast
4x esperzoa
4x glaze fiend
4x mishra, artificer prodigy
4x chromatic star
4x chromatic sphere
3x thoughtcast
7x swamp
7x mountain
7x island
2x evlovling wilds

Cost: $15.15 (yeah, it's a little over).

Mishra is an interesting card.  He's got one of the most powerful abilities in the game -- completely broken if you can come up with an extra $6-7 for a few copies of cranial plating .  However, this deck hasn't ever (to my knowledge) seen competetive play since it's largely over-shadowed by affinity.  The idea here is to use the synergy between glaze fiend , esperzoa and mishra, artificer prodigy to pump up glaze fiend and swing.  precursor golem acts as a nice finisher as, when mishra is out, glaze fiend will swing for 12.  Galvanic Blast and Pierce Strider provide direct damage.  One very nice thing about Mishra is that he's not an artifact.  Since black decks can't doom blade him, they will likely have to make the decision whether or not to just let him go, side in go for the throat (which is dead against every other creature in the deck), or choose a more costly form of removal (eg murder ) -- if that's even in their sideboard. 

Also, if you want to trick the deck out, you won't need to spend a whole lot doing so.  Again, cranial plating is absurd.  Even just single copies of darksteel citadel and academy ruins are welcome additions.  The land base can be updated, but isn't necessarily a requirement since both chromatic sphere and star provide mana fixing.
Flag draco_pryde October 4, 2012 11:26 AM PDT
How about a Wolf-centric deck? Doesn't have to be "tribal" but with wolves as the main focus. I would prefer regular wolves not werewolves, but if they're needed to improve the deck thats fine.
Flag AzazelWandering October 4, 2012 7:55 PM PDT
When I'm finally in a position to post...CoolStuffInc is down! I'll use the "Medium" price from TCGplayer as my price guide.

Oct 4, 2012 -- 11:26AM, draco_pryde wrote:

How about a Wolf-centric deck? Doesn't have to be "tribal" but with wolves as the main focus.


OK!

Wolves for $12.68 at TCGplayer

4 Young Wolf
4 DarkThicket Wolf
4 TimberPack Wolf
4 Lone Wolf
4 Wolfir Avenger
1 Master Of The Wild Hunt

4 Rampant Growth
4 Hunter's Insight
3 OverRun
4 Howl Of The Night Pack


Hunter's Insight not only features a Wolf, but works well with both Lone Wolf and  Master Of The Wild Hunt !

OverRun makes a resolved  Howl Of The Night Pack much more intimidating, and can be used on a regular Wolf army too!


I decided to go mono - because of Howl Of The Night Pack , but it's worth noting that both and have access to some good stuff.
Flag AzazelWandering October 4, 2012 8:10 PM PDT

I have a Wither deck, which has something of a reputation in my Meta, so I figured I'd build one for you guys here!

Wither for $14.89


4 Akoum Refuge
10 Mountain
10 Swamp


4 Oona's GateWarden
4 Sickle Ripper
4 Shambling Remains
4 LockJaw Snapper
4 Kulrath Knight


4 Scar
4 FireBall
4 BlowFly Infestation
4 Serrated Arrows


The idea is to...have your opponents creatures end up with -1/-1 Counters on them! Most of your creatures can accomplish that in combat, and a few of your spells can accomplish that outside of combat! Once your opponents creatures have -1/-1 Counters on them you can use Kulrath Knight to make sure they can't block!


Multiple BlowFly Infestation on the field become something akin to a Board Wipe, so you have both Shambling Remains and FireBall to help push through damage when creatures can't survive on the board.

Flag RagingGoblinGrenade October 5, 2012 2:43 AM PDT
hi, I want to post another deck on here, so here I am! This is my G/W Enchantment deck of awesomeness! haha.

G/W Enchantments for $6.20

4 x Gladecover Scout
4 x Elvish Visionary
4 x Aura Gnarlid
4 x Courier Hawk
4 x Kor Skyfisher
2 x Auramancer

4 x Spider Umbra
2 x Lignify
2 x Snake Umbra
4 x Hyena Umbra
2 x Pacifism
4 x Ethereal Armor
4 x Sigil Blessing

2 x Selesnya Sanctuary
8 x Plains
8 x Forest


As you may have noticed.... It's pauper. The totem armors keep everything alive, the skyfishers help relocate auras and bounce the visionaries, and the aura gnarlids/flying critters get the damage in. This deck works very well and it's one of my favorites.
Flag AzazelWandering October 5, 2012 6:16 PM PDT

I'm going to be doing my best to build around Return To Ravinca cards which are suitably inspirational and budget - the first is AxeBane Guardian !


Defenders for $12.64


4 Kazandu Refuge
10 Mountain
10 Forest  


4 Vine Trellis
4 Wall Of Torches
4 OverGrown BattleMent
4 Rage Nimbus
4 AxeBane Guardian
4 Vent Sentinel
4 Manor Gargoyle


4 Sheltering Word
4 WarMonger's Chariot


You have plenty of Ramp here - Vine Trellis , OverGrown BattleMent and AxeBane Guardian so playing stuff should be no problem.
You have a few win conditions here - Vent Sentinel , Manor Gargoyle and WarMonger's Chariot (which happily doesn't remove the Defender key word).
Sheltering Word protects your stuff - and will likely gain you more than a little life!

Flag AzazelWandering October 6, 2012 8:35 PM PDT

I decided to build around the "UnLeash" keyword - which is basically code for "Never Stop Attacking!"


"UnLeash" for $7.63



4 Rakdos GuildGate
10 Mountain
10 Swamp  


4 Typhoid Rats
4 Gore-House Chainwalker
4 Grim Roustabout
4 Hellhole Flailer
4 Ogre Jailbreaker
4 Bloodfray Giant


4 Furor Of The Bitten
4 Brute Force
4 Volt Charge


The idea is to "Unleash" most of your cards, while leaving things like Typhoid Rats , Grim Roustabout and Ogre Jailbreaker (who can sometimes attack too!) to Block for you.
Hellhole Flailer + Furor Of The Bitten have great synergy, and if you if you run the risk of losing Hellhole Flailer when you attack - you can simply blow it up!

Flag JaketheLate October 6, 2012 9:37 PM PDT
here comes a torrent of decks:

RB Mill Combo
Land:
11 x Mountain
13 x Swamp

Spells:
3 x Bloodchief Ascension
3 x Mindcrank
4 x Volt Charge
4 x Wrench Mind
4 x Faithless Looting
4 x Sign in Blood

Creatures:
4 x Augur of Skulls
4 x Manaforge Cinder
4 x Spiteflame Witch

I know that this isn't $15.00, It's Twenty going by Star City Games, but it is a very effective budget mill list. The plan is to play a Bloodchief Ascension then a Mindcrank . Get the counters on Ascension then hit your opponent with something. Mindcrank triggers, which triggers Ascnsion and so-on and so-on. if you wanna make it less budget you should replace shock with Lightning bolt, and Wrench Mind with Blightning

UB Self-Mill $15.79
land:
4 x Evolving Wilds
4 x Terramorphic Expanse
4 x Crypt of Agadeem
6 x Island
6 x Swamp

Creatures:
4 x Dregscape Zombie
4 x Viscera Dragger
4 x rotting rats
4 x Architects of will
4 x Extractor Demon
1 x Fatestitcher
3 x Hedron Crab
4 x Reassembling Skeleton

Spells:
4 x Forbidden Alchemy
4 x Compulsive Research


Mill yourself, then use a huge Crypt to either Alpha Strike or mill your opponent out with Extractor Demon.

UR Molten Psyche

Land:
12 x Island
12 x Mountain


4 x Cerebral Vortex


4 x Compulsive Research
4 x Electrolyze
4 x Everflowing Chalice
4 x Molten Psyche
4 x Temple Bell




4 x Thoughtcast
4 x Voltaic Key

Creatures
4 x Goblin Electromancer

Again, not $15 but $20, but it is a blast to play. You spend the first few turns setting up, then you blitz your opponent with Vortex and Psyche.



Flag draco_pryde October 8, 2012 11:34 AM PDT
I like a lot of the demons & devils that have come out in R/B lately, how about a deck with those?
Flag AzazelWandering October 8, 2012 6:55 PM PDT

This was requested in another thread, but I built it for less than $15 so I figured I'd post it here too:


Squire Deck for $14.97


4 GrayPelt Refuge
10 Forest
10 PLains


4 Elite VanGuard
4 Squire
4 RuneClaw Bear
4 Blade Of The sixth Pride
4 Grizzled Leotau
4 WatchWolf
4 Ant Queen


4 Muraganda Petroglyphs
4 Bestial Menace

Basically, this deck uses   Squire (which, plus  Muraganda Petroglyphs isn't actually too bad).

Flag AzazelWandering October 8, 2012 7:07 PM PDT
I posted in a thread about a Ninja deck recently, so I figured I'd built one for this thing.

Ninja's for $13.74

4 Soaring SeaCliff
20 Island

4 Ornithopter
4 Augury Owl
4 MistBlade Shinobi
4 Neurok Invisimancer
4 Ninja Of The Deep Hours
2 Higure, The Still Wind
2 Sphinx Of Jwar Isle

4 Artful Dodge
4 UnSummon
4 Boomerang

Basically: Ninja's!

You have plenty of Ninjitsu enablers, control and Finishers. 

I included   Sphinx Of Jwar Isle here because a playset of  Higure, The Still Wind is too costly, its third ability synergizes with  Ninja Of The Deep Hours , and it's a decent finisher.
Flag AzazelWandering October 8, 2012 7:08 PM PDT

Oct 6, 2012 -- 9:37PM, JaketheLate wrote:

RB Mill Combo


I like this list!

Flag AzazelWandering October 8, 2012 7:30 PM PDT

Oct 8, 2012 -- 11:34AM, draco_pryde wrote:

I like a lot of the demons & devils that have come out in R/B lately, how about a deck with those?


Demon's and Devil's for $10.86

4 Smoldering Spires
8 Mountain
12 Swamp


4 Forge Devil
4 Goblin Arsonist
4 Squealing Devil
4 CryptBorn Horror
4 SoulCage Fiend
4 DemonLord Of AshMouth


4 Bump In The Night
4 Incinerate
4 NightBird's Clutches


The idea here is to use stuff like Smoldering Spires and NightBird's Clutches to help your high power Demons and Devils (like Squealing Devil and SoulCage Fiend ) connect with your opponent, to create a big CryptBorn Horror .

Flag AzazelWandering October 8, 2012 10:55 PM PDT

Oct 5, 2012 -- 2:43AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

This is my G/W Enchantment deck of awesomeness! haha.


Cute list.

Flag eagleschrisr October 9, 2012 4:14 PM PDT
I realize this is not the multiplayer forum but it fits the budget. R/B CryptBorn Blood. Basically ramp up damage to drop a huge CryptBorn Horror while keeping the field somewhat clear with Pestilence . $13.15 on Coolstuff.
4 x Blistergrub
4 x Soulcage Fiend
4 x CryptBorn Horror
4 x Pulse Tracker
4 x Crypt Champion

4 x Pestilence
4 x Sizzle
3 x Acidic Soil
3 x Exquisite Blood
2 x Exsanguinate

4 x Smoldering Spires
14 x Swamp
6 x Mountain




Flag AzazelWandering October 9, 2012 6:34 PM PDT
I was browsing another thread where I saw a request for a deck built around BlisterCoil Weird with the addendum that it be "as broken as possible". I thought I might suspend my usual restrictions (for this deck only) and fulfil the request!

BlisterCoil Weird for $2066.79

4 Tolaria West
4 Shivan Reef
4 Cascade Bluffs
4 Steam Vents
4 Volcanic Island

4 BlisterCoil Weird
4 Delver Of Secrets // Insectile Aberration

4 Black Lotus
4 Paradise Mantle
4 BrainStorm
4 Ancestral Recall
4 Lightning Bolt
4 Chain Lightning
4 Magma Jet
4 Time Walk

Tolaria West transmutes for Paradise Mantle (and others) who is cute alongside  BlisterCoil Weird and 1 CMC spells.
Flag AzazelWandering October 11, 2012 6:54 PM PDT

Golgari Scavenge for $14.52


4 Golgari GuildGate
10 Swamp
10 Forest

4 SlitherHead
4 Drudge Beetle
4 GateCreeper Vine
4 Thrill-Kill Assassin
4 Dead Reveler
4 Dreg Mangler
4 SluiceWay Scorpion

4 Mulch
4 Grisly Salvage


This deck is built around the "Scavenge" keyword, I tried to include as many low cost "Scavenge" options (such as SlitherHead and SluiceWay Scorpion ) as possible - but I found that Ramp was needed to help augment them (hence GateCreeper Vine , Mulch , etc).
The "Unleash" creatures are here to give you an easy target for the +1/+1 counters (and, since they should already have some, they should be quite powerful!)

Flag AzazelWandering October 11, 2012 6:55 PM PDT
Flag RagingGoblinGrenade October 18, 2012 12:15 AM PDT

Oct 8, 2012 -- 10:55PM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Oct 5, 2012 -- 2:43AM, RagingGoblinGrenade wrote:

This is my G/W Enchantment deck of awesomeness! haha.


Cute list.




Thanks. At first I was building the deck as a normal one out of the cards I had on hand. When I found out I only had like 4 uncommons in the list, I decided to just go for pauper and take em out. It was a neat experience and I have a lot of fun with the deck.

The illusion deck is pretty neat. I had made a deck list for one as well, but it's not under $15 haha.

Flag draco_pryde October 22, 2012 12:23 PM PDT
I've always found Quillspike interesting how bout a deck built around Quillspike + Devoted Druid & Flourishing Defenses supported by Persist creatures.
Flag Candlestick November 5, 2012 3:25 PM PST
How about a deck based around Curse of the Pierced Heart and Curse of Bloodletting ?
Flag JaketheLate November 5, 2012 6:07 PM PST
Flag draco_pryde November 6, 2012 10:46 AM PST

Nov 5, 2012 -- 6:07PM, JaketheLate wrote:

Nov 5, 2012 -- 3:25PM, Candlestick wrote:

How about a deck based around Curse of the Pierced Heart and Curse of Bloodletting ?




Here you go!

Land:
10 x Mountain
10 x Plains
4 x Evolving Wilds
 
Creatures:
4 x Mesa Enchantress
4 x Totem-guide Hartebeest

Enchantments:
4 x Oblivion Ring
4 x Curse of Exhaustion
4 x Curse of Bloodletting
4 x Furnace of Rath
4 x Pacifism
4 x Journey to Nowhere
4 x Prison Term



This looks like a pretty interesting lockdown deck, but how does it win?

Flag Candlestick November 6, 2012 12:35 PM PST
Thanks for the deck but do you have any advice on making that deck list Standard legal as I have only recently got back into Magic?
Flag JaketheLate November 6, 2012 8:20 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 10:46AM, draco_pryde wrote:

Nov 5, 2012 -- 6:07PM, JaketheLate wrote:

Nov 5, 2012 -- 3:25PM, Candlestick wrote:

How about a deck based around Curse of the Pierced Heart and Curse of Bloodletting ?




Here you go!

Land:
10 x Mountain
10 x Plains
4 x Evolving Wilds
 
Creatures:
4 x Mesa Enchantress
4 x Totem-guide Hartebeest

Enchantments:
4 x Oblivion Ring
4 x Curse of Exhaustion
4 x Curse of Bloodletting
4 x Furnace of Rath
4 x Pacifism
4 x Journey to Nowhere
4 x Prison Term



This looks like a pretty interesting lockdown deck, but how does it win?



Crap! I forgot Curse of the Pierced Heart! Crap!

-1 Journey -1 Prison Term -1Furnace -1 Curse og Bloodletting
+4 Curse of the Pierced Heart

There!

Flag JaketheLate November 6, 2012 8:27 PM PST

Nov 6, 2012 -- 12:35PM, Candlestick wrote:

Thanks for the deck but do you have any advice on making that deck list Standard legal as I have only recently got back into Magic?


Sure. Play Izzet, and turn it into a pure control deck. Izzet Keyrune to ramp, a lot of Draw and countermagic. Play the enchantments for the final win. Probably won't be consistant, but it's playable.

Flag AzazelWandering February 25, 2013 6:39 PM PST

I haven't played MTG in quite a while, which means I'm quite out-of-date with the current expansions, so, to remedy this, I though I'd do a $15 deck thing for each of the Ravinca Guilds!


The decks will be Standard legal, and will be built around the Guild, and their mechanics. They should also be roughly equal, in terms of power levels.

Also, if anyone has any $15 or less requests, post them here! 



Selesnya @ $12.95


2 Grove Of The Guardian
4 Selesnya GuildGate
6 Plains
12 Forest


4 Doomed Traveler
4 Vitu-Ghazi GuildMage
4 Attended Knight
4 WayFaring Temple
4 GoldNight Commander


4 Prophetic Prism
4 Druid's Deliverance
4 Gather The TownsFolk
4 Call Of The Conclave


You produce Tokens, and then you Populate!

Flag Alias402 February 26, 2013 10:22 AM PST
Can you make a 15$ goblin storm deck?
Flag AzazelWandering February 26, 2013 6:21 PM PST

Feb 26, 2013 -- 10:22AM, Alias402 wrote:

Can you make a 15$ goblin storm deck?


What do you mean by "Goblin Storm"?
This can't really be done properly for under $15 - as Empty The Warrens and Grapeshot are about $1.00 each (which puts you at $8 before you can even build the rest of the deck). Also, one of the big reasons to run in Storm decks is for draw/cantrips - going mono- means that we need to use less common (and therefore more expensive) options.

Here is what I've come up with:

Goblin Storm @ $25.96

16 Mountain

4 Ornithopter
4 Wild Cantor
4 Akki Rockspeaker


4 Mishra's Bauble
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 Faithless Looting
4 Infernal Plunge
4 Pyretic Ritual
4 Spawning Breath
4 GrapeShot
4 Empty The Warrens

More serious playtesting is needed to confirm numbers, but it did function (albeit slowly) in playtesting.
It isn't the most consistent thing in the world either.


Here are the alterations I would make, if this list didn't need to be quite so budget/Modern legal:


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- 4 Akki RockSpeaker
+ 4 Burning-Tree Emissary

- 4 Pyretic Ritual
+ 4 Street Wraith

-4 Mishra's Bauble
+ 4 Manamorphose

- 4 Mountain
+ 4 SandStone Needle

Gamble is sometimes run in mono- lists, especially alongside Past In Flames .

Reforge The Soul could be interesting.
 

Flag AzazelWandering February 26, 2013 6:25 PM PST
Flag Alias402 February 27, 2013 6:37 AM PST
Well I could do without a full 4 play sets of empty and grapeshot, 3 on each should be alright?
Flag Nocculum February 27, 2013 8:11 AM PST
Grapeshot is 0.37p, and Empty the Warrens is 0.40p. 

So four of each is about 4 dollars. As Alias said, you don't need four, so you can easily knock that down to 3 dollars.
Flag VRdragoon February 27, 2013 8:16 AM PST
also, Burning-Tree Emissary over Akki Rockspeaker.
Didn't see you had that in your spoilered list.

*edit*

Come to think of it, you have Priest of Urabrask as well.

Is there some kind of creature storm deck here?

*edit the edit*

If we were to go that route, we have access to Dragon Fodder and Krenko's Command to fuel Battle Hymn , and it gives more fodder (HA) for Infernal Plunge.

Huh.

15 x Mountain

4 x Ornithopter
4 x Wild Cantor
4 x Burning-Tree Emissary

4 x Spawning Breath
4 x Krenko's Command
2 x Dragon Fodder
4 x Gitaxian Probe
3 x Faithless Looting
3 x Dangerous Wager
4 x Battle Hymn
4 x Infernal Plunge

3 x Grapeshot
2 x Empty the Warrens


Has the potential to generate a lot more mana, but is more vulnerable to removal, in a way.
We can sub in Brood Birthing for some of the goblins, as well. A bit more risky, but could give more fuel later in the storm.

/2cents
Flag Alias402 February 27, 2013 11:06 AM PST
If where staying goblin creature based brightstone ritual is better than battle hymn.

Also what is this "p" you speak of? is this a mtgo term?
Flag VRdragoon February 27, 2013 11:27 AM PST
P, if I'm not mistaken, is short for Pence, which is the Euro equivelent of American Cents

 
Flag Alias402 February 27, 2013 11:31 AM PST
got ya
Flag AzazelWandering February 27, 2013 5:23 PM PST

Feb 27, 2013 -- 6:37AM, Alias402 wrote:

Well I could do without a full 4 play sets of empty and grapeshot, 3 on each should be alright?


I don't feel like you have enough draw here to reliably hit a copy (or two) each game at anything less that a playset.

I did a little more research and found that Goblin Storm and Mono-Red Storm are existing (if seperate) Pauper Storm archetypes. I'd also encourage you to read this.

Feb 27, 2013 -- 8:16AM, VRdragoon wrote:

2cents


I did a little testing with that deck (against the Ravina decks I've been posting) and I've noticed:
1) Most games I wouldn't hit either of the Storm cards. This can be remedied with more draw or more of the Storm cards themselves.
2) 15 lands is too low - I'd go up to 16 or 17 (largely because of all the 2 CMC stuff). 
3) I never want to discard my hand for Dangerous Wager . I'd run Street Wraith , or Mishra's Bauble , or  Desperate Ravings instead.

If you don't mind me asking, why did you chose to run GrapeShot over Haze Of Rage
In a Goblin build I think I'd prefer Skirk Prospector over Wild Cantor - your thoughts?
What is your opnion on Forgotten Cave ? I like the cycling, but I think it's probably too slow.


Your build did inspire me to build one of my own (less budget and less modern than the one I posted - but probably closer to what Alias402 wanted):

16 Mountain

4 Skirk Prospector
4 Mogg War Marshal

4 Mishra's Bauble
4 Gitaxian Probe
4 BrightStone Ritual
4 Infernal Plunge
4 Faithless Looting
4 Dragon Fodder
4 Krenko's Command
4 Haze Of Rage
4 Empty The Warrens

Obviously, against well-timed spot-removal or board wipes this deck has serious trouble...but it's actually working quite well.

Feb 27, 2013 -- 8:11AM, Nocculum wrote:

Grapeshot is 0.37p, and Empty the Warrens is 0.40p.


I use (as I have mentioned before) CoolStuffInc for prices - where they listed as $0.99 each. 

Flag AzazelWandering February 27, 2013 5:45 PM PST

Golgari @ $8.61


2 Grim BackWoods
4 Golgari GuildGate
9 Swamp
9 Forest


4 SlitherHead
4 Young Wolf
4 Butcher Ghoul
4 Elvish Visionary
4 Sewer Shambler
4 SluiceWay Scorpion
4 CorpseJack Menace


4 Ranger's Guile
4 Prophetic Prism


This deck is designed around abusing +1/+1 counters (like those produced by the Scavenge mechanic) via CorpseJack Menace .

Ranger's Guile is here to protect the creatures you invest +1/+1 counter in - although against most of the other Ravinca decks, it's not always super useful. 

Flag Alias402 February 28, 2013 5:46 AM PST
I like that storm list, I would rather run bush for the haste and the +1/0 is nice as I dont need to storm off as much, 4 spells, empty then bush and that's 22 damage I think.

Even if they do have a few blockers its almost over next turn.

I do live in fear of mass removal but even then if they cant get back up after a wipe and I am able to recover they are boned as well. 
Flag VRdragoon February 28, 2013 7:51 AM PST
Dangerous Wager was a choice made on the basis that there wasn't quite enough draw, and that the deck would eventually run out of cards in hand. Casting this when its the last card is just straight up "draw 2". In retrospect, Desperate Ravings is a better choice.

I honestly didn't know haze of rage existed. That would be a better choice.


I didn't include skirk prospector because I was under the impression that this needed to be modern. If it was legacy, I would have upped the goblin count and jammed him and brightstone ritual in. 
Flag AzazelWandering March 1, 2013 8:19 PM PST

Izzet @ $14.98


2 Desolate LightHouse
4 Izzet GuildGate
9 Mountain
9 Island


4 NivMagus Elemental
4 Goblin Electromancer
4 Talrand, Sky Summoner


4 DownSize
4 Electrickery
4 Prophetic Prism
4 Desperate Ravings
4 Harvest Pyre
4 Chandra's Fury


You manipulate combat and your opponents creatures and win via...any number of ways!


Harvest Pyre is fed by Desolate LightHouse and Desperate Ravings .


I found this deck the hardest to build, largely because it need to be competitive with the others - hence some of the "suprising" choices.

Flag AzazelWandering March 2, 2013 6:55 PM PST

Azorius @ $8.03


4 Azorius GuildGate
10 Island
10 Plains


4 Faerie Impostor
4 Azorius Arrester
4 New Prahv GuildMage
4 Lyev SkyKnight
4 Mist Raven


4 CloudShift
4 Peel From Reality
4 Azorius KeyRune
4 Curse Of Exhaustion

This is probably the closest (in terms of playstyle) to the Guild it represents: you are aiming to detain, detain and detain!

Flag AzazelWandering March 6, 2013 4:49 PM PST
I built a deck around the "UnLeash" mechanic a few pages back, so I figured I'd try something a little different:

Rakdos @ $14.01


4 Rakdos GuildGate
7 Mountain
13 Swamp


4 Goblin FireSlinger
4 Tormented Soul
4 StormBlood Berserker
4 DuskHunter Bat
4 CryptBorn Horror
4 Shambling Remains
1 Faceless Butcher
1 Rumbling Slum
1 Entomber Exarch
1 Rakdos, Lord Of Riots
4 FleshWrither


4 Prophetic Prism

This is a deck built around  Rakdos, Lord Of Riots
FleshWrither allows you to run something of a toolbox -   Faceless Butcher offers removal,  Rumbling Slum is a bloodthirst enabler, and   Entomber Exarch offers recursion/discard.

Flag AzazelWandering March 8, 2013 6:10 PM PST

Orzhov @ $13.79


4 Orzhov GuildGate
10 Plains
10 Swamp


4 Trained Caracal
4 Haunted Guardian
4 Basilica Screecher
4 Syndic Of Tithes
4 Blood Artist
4 KingPin's Pet
4 Ogre JailBreaker


4 Swift Justice
4 Orzhov KeyRune

This is a deck built around the "Extort" mechanic - where you play spells and drain life.

Blood Artist (at $2.49 each) comprises over 50% of this decks price - but I feel it's worthwhile here. 

Flag xdarkmysticx March 11, 2013 9:09 PM PDT
Anyone mind building me a G/B or G/B/U infect deck with aspects of proliferate?
The budget should be around 30 dollars or so  
Flag AzazelWandering March 12, 2013 9:10 PM PDT

Mar 11, 2013 -- 9:09PM, xdarkmysticx wrote:

Anyone mind building me a G/B or G/B/U infect deck with aspects of proliferate?
The budget should be around 30 dollars or so  


Infect/Proliferate @ $13.09:

2 Buried Ruin
4 Golgari GuildGate
8 Swamp
10 Forest

4 Glistener Elf
4 Necropede
4 IchorClaw Myr
4 Plague Stinger
4 Viridian Corrupter
2 Core Prowler

4 Mutagenic Growth
4 Virulent Swipe
2 Ichor WellSpring
4 Throne Of Geth

Throne Of Geth is your main proliferate engine - and you can kill Necropede for removal, or Ichor WellSpring for CA ( Viridian Corrupter also allows you to kill them). Buried Ruin gets your stuff back.

Here are the alterations I would make if you wanted to spend closer to $30:
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Flag AzazelWandering March 12, 2013 9:29 PM PDT
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