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8 months ago  ::  Oct 02, 2012 - 11:16AM #241
jnp5021
Date Joined: May 2, 2011
Posts: 5,962
Brains for sure. Easy 4 of (at least till we see some other decks). I don't think we can even get to the SB yet with the Anderson list because even the mirror doesn't look that great to me. U can slip aristocrat, true, but that means u are gonna into a beat fest as your critters match up evenly. With any zombie deck running artist (I still believe he is worth running sans mPod just because he will either suck away removal or make it very hard to finish me off via combat or non-terminus spells) your going to lose that brawl simply because you can't gain any life back ( shocklands are reason enough to run artist imo, thrag in heavier builds).
The list looks super aggressive, until you actually play out the hand and realize to win means you MUST over extend... Which can mean death vs w/x anything. Again the mirror isn't pretty. Vs control, well I say that's a fair match. U basically just bet on lol troll, feedin him everything you can as the only way to remove him is active slip or terminus (o-ring is too easy to kill with AD so I'm not counting). If they ever do kill the troll, you would do well to be holding an aristocrat to finish fast...but that seems to not be an option here.

The list is just so underwhelming. Like a flock of angry children. Very noisy, but certainly not threatening
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 02, 2012 - 4:31PM #242
anointed_one
Date Joined: Jul 7, 2008
Posts: 51

Oct 1, 2012 -- 8:14PM, Shadowchu wrote:


Todd Anderson's list
4 x Diregraf Ghoul
3 x Dreg Mangler
4 x Geralf's Messenger
4 x Gravecrawler
4 x Lotleth Troll
4 x Rakdos Cackler
3 x Rakdos Shred-Freak

3 x Rancor
2 x Abrupt Decay
4 x Tragic Slip
2 x Sign in Blood

9 x Swamp
4 x Cavern of Souls
2 x Golgari Guildgate
4 x Overgrown Tomb
4 x Woodland Cemetery

Sideboard:
1 x Abrupt Decay
4 x Duress
2 x Vraska the Unseen
2 x Liliana of the Veil
3 x Cower in Fear
3 x Underworld Connections


 So, I get that it's supposed to be retardedly aggressive. You have 12 one drops and no 4 drops. And the sideboard is just a mix of whatever. Not sure how I feel about this but seems alright. 




The only card that I can truly disagree with is rakdos shred-freak . My list is almost identical, only differences being liliana of the veil instead of the freak, and card quantity changes of some spells.

I think that underworld connections , especially in this type of deck, is way to slow. If you want card draw, stick with sign in blood i say

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 5:34AM #243
Jman22
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2006
Posts: 2,808
Its a sideboard card for the long games, and helps you to power out a stronger LotLeth Troll.
(at)MrEnglish22
"still a better Commander card than Emmara Tandris"
-On the topic of Squire
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 5:42AM #244
Osu
Date Joined: Mar 7, 2012
Posts: 437

Oct 1, 2012 -- 3:07PM, Cyberzilla wrote:

deathrite shaman is pretty underwhelming. It just seems like it deals 2 damage per turn, which I could do with an attacker. If I ran more Jarad, I could pull his first eff off, but that doesn't seem worth it.




an attacker can be blocked late game.  Plus the shaman can be used in response to an undying trigger, which is pretty important in the mirror.

Next thing you will tell me Browbeat is bad.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 5:59AM #245
Jman22
Date Joined: Mar 12, 2006
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Deathrite Shaman is good. Gives you mana, gives you reach, gives you life, gives you a way to exile zombies, gives you a way to exile reanimator targets.

Just be careful, because your opponent can exile the card you target with Shaman to counter the effect, even the mana one. 
(at)MrEnglish22
"still a better Commander card than Emmara Tandris"
-On the topic of Squire
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 11:11AM #246
anointed_one
Date Joined: Jul 7, 2008
Posts: 51

Oct 5, 2012 -- 5:34AM, Jman22 wrote:

Its a sideboard card for the long games, and helps you to power out a stronger LotLeth Troll.




(regarding underworld connections )

Zombies does not want to play a long game. Preparing to play one is just counter-productive. In a mid-range version of G/B, such as Rock, this card is fantastic. But in a fast paced, "I am going to swing at you every turn" deck, sign in blood fits the bill more than the enchantment, if you want to use slots for card draw at all that is.

I am still debating if I even want sign in blood in my 60 at all.

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On another note, I have a real strong feeling that deathrite shaman will be a MUST in every deck that can use him. He hoses everything that made Innistrad a powerful set as well as a few things in Ravnica. In addition, the elf effects life totals as he hoses. Did I mention that he is also a creature?

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8 months ago  ::  Oct 05, 2012 - 8:16PM #247
liljramos88
Date Joined: Nov 23, 2011
Posts: 302
Ok i know this deck may be a bit strange but its actually doing pretty well. i have played online with a few friends. but tell me what you think.
Basic B/G Zombie deck i was tinkering with. a few options may seem a bit strange like Bloodline Keeper  . I use Bloodline Keeper  B/c its a flyer wit 3/3 before it transforms and it's a token maker which i can sacrifice for the effects of Bone Splinters  and Grim Backwoods  Plus they make great Chump blockers. I also run Diregraf Captain  to pump up my Zombies. whated to do things a tad differently 


Land (23)


Sorcery (4)


Enchantment (3)




Sideboard (15)


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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 5:04AM #248
RorixCollector
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2006
Posts: 1,968
List I've settled on for now that loses hardcore to Angel Ramp which is a problem if anyone actually plays that deck.

ps. Desecration Demon is sick out of the board against Angel ramp and random durdly control decks.

Land
4 x Cavern of Souls
2 x Golgari Guildgate
4 x Overgrown Tomb
4 x Woodland Cemetery
8 x Swamp

Creatures
4 x Blood Artist
4 x Diregraf Ghoul
4 x Dreg Mangler
4 x Gravecrawler
4 x Geralf's Messenger
2 x Highborn Ghoul
4 x Lotleth Troll
3 x Rakdos Cackler

Spells
3 x Sign in Blood
4 x Tragic Slip

Enchantments
2 x Rancor

Sideboard
3 x Desecration Demon
3 x Duress
3 x Golgari Charm
4 x Knight of Infamy
2 x Liliana of the Veil


I hate Guildgates with a passion.
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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 7:57AM #249
Wynzerman
Date Joined: Oct 23, 2010
Posts: 3,505
o.O The list I played against last night cut it's messengers because they weren't 1 drops, or didn't have haste, and it kicked the ever-loving crap out of whatever got into it's way.


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8 months ago  ::  Oct 06, 2012 - 8:20AM #250
RorixCollector
Date Joined: Apr 26, 2006
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Oct 6, 2012 -- 7:57AM, Wynzerman wrote:

o.O The list I played against last night cut it's messengers because they weren't 1 drops, or didn't have haste, and it kicked the ever-loving crap out of whatever got into it's way.




Cutting the best card in this deck other than Blood Artist seems like a terrible idea.

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