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9 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 5:02PM #1
WotC_Monty
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This thread is for discussion of this week's Limited Information, which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 04, 2012 - 10:33PM #2
Senyuno
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Only one common. For shame.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 05, 2012 - 12:32AM #3
fractal
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Sep 4, 2012 -- 10:33PM, Senyuno wrote:

Only one common. For shame.


What? Previews are almost always of a single card.  This one looks like it will define many of the Limited games it is played in.  It also looks like it might be borderline playable for Constructed?  Or maybe not, I guess 3/4 for just isn't that big these days, even if it is a member of a good tribe.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 05, 2012 - 8:45AM #4
Amarsir
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I don't know if I like this mechanic.  Blocking is good and interactive, and there's precious little of it in many games anyway.  A mechanic that rewards you for foregoing blocking doesn't seem so great. specially since it begets similar racing from the opponent.  If you and I both play Dead Reveler, and I make mine a non-blocker, you might as well do the same because my +1/+1 would outclass your guy on block anyway.  


I know it's just one mechanic in a big set, but this harkens to Zendikar-era racing.  Which was appealing at first but ultimately unsatisfying.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 05, 2012 - 8:57AM #5
Senyuno
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Sep 5, 2012 -- 12:32AM, fractal wrote:

Sep 4, 2012 -- 10:33PM, Senyuno wrote:

Only one common. For shame.


What? Previews are almost always of a single card.  This one looks like it will define many of the Limited games it is played in.  It also looks like it might be borderline playable for Constructed?  Or maybe not, I guess 3/4 for just isn't that big these days, even if it is a member of a good tribe.



There's no reason to defend one common. Steve has been getting more and more cards each preview, last time getting all 5 rings. He deserves more. We deserve more. A common just doesn't generate as much talk as a rare unless it's overpowered.

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9 months ago  ::  Sep 05, 2012 - 3:39PM #6
gruulsmash
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badly written article about a bad card to preview.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 06, 2012 - 7:47AM #7
alextfish
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I'd say it's about the best article he could write, given the utterly uninteresting card. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the card will be very playable, and I'm sure a bunch of developers did a bunch of testing to ensure it played an effective role in the limited format. But that's all it is: a role player. It's nothing that gets anyone excited. Even Steve was clearly a lot more excited about Guttersnipe than this thing.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 12:04PM #8
rexman07
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I thought this preview (of a single common) was perfectly fine.
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9 months ago  ::  Sep 09, 2012 - 4:35PM #9
GopZ
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now on the other hand, guttersnipe will surely become part of quite a few decks...
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