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Sep 4, 2012 -- 7:16AM, cybishop wrote:

I want to make a Standard deck with this card. At 11 CMC, it won't be that expensive to buy or trade for, but considering its death trigger, its caster doesn't actually care too much if it gets hit with a Doom Blade *.

10 x Forest
4 x Overgrown Tomb
10 x Swamp

4 x Arbor Elf
4 x Elvish Archdruid
4 x Korozda Guildmage
4 x Somberwald Sage
4 x Worldspine Wurm
2 x Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord

2 x Death's Presence
4 x Distress
4 x Grisly Salvage
4 x Tragic Slip

Just ramp to the Wurms. If they kill or counter it, Grisly Salvage will give you another one soon enough. If they exile it or gain control of it or Pacify it, you have plenty of sacrifice outlets.

* Or whatever the post-RtR equivalent of Doom Blade will be. And now that I think of it, I don't know what that is. Tragic Slip probably, but it won't kill this thing. Murder , Bone Splinters and Dreadbore all have more inconvenient costs... What's the general speculation about the popular creature removal in Standard going forward?

a rakdos card will be the new doom blade (something along the lines of screaming death).

but I think that your assuming too much about shocklands. They could still not happen.

Also, gr seems a better fit for this card so you can have the red removal and overload cards.

Interesting fattie, somewhat different from anything else printed before as for which decks and contexts it fits best in. The closest comparison I can think of is with  Darksteel Colossus : same converted mana cost, comparable body (at that size level, 4 is a smaller difference), meant for combat and little else, and one ideally needs a card that removes it in an other way than destroying it to deal with it efficiently. For people who are trying to be optimal in their fattie strategy, Darksteel Colossus has very largely fallen out of flavor; Blightsteel Colossus does everything it did but better, in commander especially, for just one more mana, and for hardcasting purposes, Worldspine Wurm doesn't seem like it beats Blightsteel either (as an aside, Blightsteel "should" very much be in Adam's deck based on power and synergy, but I can understand that killing a player out of nowhere by giving it haste can be called unfun... :P).

However, the Wurm can be "cheated out" in different ways and is a better choice for some cheating tools than Blightsteel, which I think is what will make it very worthwile for some decks. Being green makes it compatible with  Natural Order and  Dramatic Entrance ; for pure beatdown purposes, it's probably the strongest choice to date to pair with these cards, at least where  Progenitus isn't an option. It also loves things that put it on the battlefield for a turn to have you sacrifice it afterwards, such as Sneak Attack as was said above, as well as Through the Breach . Getting a Blightsteel out with those two is relatively strong, but that plan can be stopped just by blocking, and it doesn't leave anything behind if you can't follow it up with more poison. You can even exploit the fact that its shuffle ability is a trigger and not a replacement effect like the Colossi's, by using something such a Corpse Dance in response. Pair that with a sacrifice outlet for massive amounts of fun!

Sep 4, 2012 -- 7:27AM, EyeballFrog wrote:

Victim of Night might end up as the new replacement.

Sep 4, 2012 -- 3:55AM, DarkArtist711 wrote:

Kiora Atua!!!!!! In this set or the next?? Isn't she supposed to simic

In principle she could be.  It'd make her stand out if they have her be Simic in a set that otherwise doesn't have them.

she couldn't be simic because simic are about progress but she's about revering the ancient beasts of the depths.

Sep 4, 2012 -- 10:39AM, gruulsmash wrote:

a rakdos card will be the new doom blade (something along the lines of screaming death).

I think that card is Dreadbore, though not instant speed, but can deal with nasty Planeswalkers