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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 11:04AM #1
WotC_Monty
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This thread is for discussion of the feature article "Ravnica, Then and Now", which goes live Wednesday morning on magicthegathering.com.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 9:27PM #2
beank091787
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This was an awesome article till it started talking about Jace....

The story of ravnica was amazing. I still re-read the books every few months, its just that good of a story to me. I cared way more about Kos, Feather,Crix, Jarad, Teysa, Pivlic, and even Borca and Obez way more than I care about Jace and Co....

I wanted Wizads to re-create that.

Without Jace.... or other PLs....

But since every set now needs to be about what Pls are doing on a Plane instead of being about characters from that Plane.... I just hope that they tone him (Jace) down in the story line....
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 9:40PM #3
Ordinary
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"Claiming to receive insights from an unseen force"

I WONDER what that unseen force could be. Oh wait, it'll be the same unseen force that it's been in every set for the past 5 years, Nicol Bolas.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 9:42PM #4
Brady_Dommermuth
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Nope.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 9:46PM #5
Acritter
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Aug 28, 2012 -- 9:42PM, Brady_Dommermuth wrote:

Nope.



Well now, THAT'S interesting. You know what would be a real plot twist? If he were just crazy after all.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 10:19PM #6
SnowFire
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A series of massive sinkholes begin opening in remote areas of Ravnica. Below is an ancient ocean, long-since covered by layer upon layer of city. The merfolk race live there, and they remained hidden but aware of the surface dwellers.




Really?  Really.

You're trying too hard here.  Just say all the merfolk lived in their own lakeside part of the city that was ignored & untouched in the original Ravnica.  The secret underground ocean is bizarre, and while bizarre has its place in a setting, not here I think.  (Also it is generally bad policy to nitpick too hard on these things, but was this an entirely dark ocean, or was there some magic light source so that the merfolk won't be blind when on the surface?  And aren't modern merfolk supposed to be able to walk?  They wouldn't have needed it before...  magic, I guess.)

More seriously, while we're on the topic of the Simic...  the opening to
www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle...
reads a little off to me.

The Simic Combine is Ravnica’s steward of nature and the wild; its mission is to preserve and advance the natural world even as Ravnica’s cities continue to grow.




I suppose the neo-Simic are flavored more heavily green than the old Simic.  I'm not sure that's a wise idea, though.  I think the old Simic would call themselves masters of nature and the wild whose mission is to control and harness the natural world.  That's fun and interesting, and sets them apart from the Selesnya / Gruul, who would be more likely to "preserve" nature rather than "improve" on it.  Anyway, magical biologists are fun, done rarely, and only make sense in U/G, while druidic protectors of the wild (who happen to use some blue magic too) show up in practically every set, thus aren't as special or compelling.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 10:23PM #7
chronego
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Aug 28, 2012 -- 9:40PM, Ordinary wrote:

"Claiming to receive insights from an unseen force"

I WONDER what that unseen force could be. Oh wait, it'll be the same unseen force that it's been in every set for the past 5 years, Nicol Bolas.


Really? My thought upon reading that was actually "Szadek".

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 10:28PM #8
Phoenix2222
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Love how this set just DRIPS flavor

I also would add that I'm a fan of merfolk, but I agree it was a little clumsy, and will need a better explanation
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 10:35PM #9
Brady_Dommermuth
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That explanation will come in time. It's underpinned by the Wilds Initiative, which is a multi-guild effort undertaken in the wake of the Guildpact's dissolution. Because newer players must first understand what the guilds are, detailing the Wilds Initiative has to wait for a while.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 11:13PM #10
occamsrazorwit
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"Rumors abound that Lazav is insane, claiming to receive insights from an unseen force."


"Little is known about Agyrem now"


"She is the Speaker for Zonot One, the first of the mysterious sinkholes to emerge on Ravnica... she speaks at the discretion of the Speakers’ Chamber, a secretive body of all nine of the zonots’ speakers. Many outside the Simic believe... that Zegana controls the Chamber—if it actually meets at all."


www.wizards.com/magic/tcg/productarticle...




So we have a bunch of people who take orders from the unknown and a bunch of mysterious, never-before-seen places. Plus, there's that strange, small third set with all 10 guilds. It's going to be something like the Eldrazi all over again.
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