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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 8:37AM #1
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16
I am newish to the game and wanted to build a Angels & healing deck.  I would have mostly acces to newer cards, besides what I could buy online.

I should probably noted that I prefer a mono white deck. The few cards I have at my disposal that I put together until I could find something better...

Lands
4x Seraph Sanctuary

Creatures
4x Lightkeeper of Emeria
3x Serra Angel
2x Seraph of Dawn
1x Archangel
1x Emancipation Angel

1x Silverblade paladin (for the double strike)
1x Mirran Crusader (prot for black and green)
2x Stonehorn Dignitary (block damage)

Spells (Hoping to pick up Silence & Disenchant)
1xAngelic Destiny
1x Entreat the Angels 
1x Divine Deflection
1x Defy Death
1x Banishing Stroke
1x Demystify
2x Pacifism
1x Call to Serve
2x Oblivion Ring
3x Divine Favor

Artifacts
2x Scroll of Avacyn 
1x Akroma's Memorial

I also have some Cathedral Santifier, Pride Guardian, Gideon's Lawkeeper...cheap stuff to keep me alive.

I know I don't have alot of angels, but it's what I want to build with, also need to work on my support spells.  Just looking for a little guidance here so I'm looking for the right cards.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 8:53AM #2
Legos
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
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Lands
4 x Seraph Sanctuary


Creatures
4 x Lightkeeper of Emeria
3 x Serra Angel
2 x Seraph of Dawn
1 x Archangel
1 x Emancipation Angel


1 x Silverblade paladin
1 x Mirran Crusader
2 x Stonehorn Dignitary


Spells (Hoping to pick up Silence & Disenchant)
1 x Angelic Destiny
1 x Entreat the Angels
1 x Divine Deflection
1 x Defy Death
1 x Banishing Stroke
1 x Demystify
2 x Pacifism
1 x Call to Serve
2 x Oblivion Ring
3 x Divine Favor


Artifacts
2 x Scroll of Avacyn
1 x Akroma's Memorial

Fixed that up so people know what you're talking about for every card, in-case they don't.
I don't really know what to add, I'm a beginner :x
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 10:10AM #3
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16
Added per recomendation from another forum...
 2 Emeria, the Sky Ruin

 4 Baneslayer Angel
 1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
 1 Admonition Angel
 1 Felidar Sovereign
 1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
 4 Herald of War
 1 Serra Avatar
 4 Serra Avenger
 4 Aegis Angel

 2 Silence
2x Disenchant
1x Leyline of Sanctity
2x Cradle of Vitality

Let's just say I spent a little money to make up for my years off...

Anyone have any other suggestions to pair with my new stuff?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 28, 2012 - 10:29PM #4
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16

Aug 28, 2012 -- 8:53AM, Legos wrote:

Lands
4 x Seraph Sanctuary


Creatures
4 x Lightkeeper of Emeria
3 x Serra Angel
2 x Seraph of Dawn
1 x Archangel
1 x Emancipation Angel


1 x Silverblade paladin
1 x Mirran Crusader
2 x Stonehorn Dignitary


Spells (Hoping to pick up Silence & Disenchant)
1 x Angelic Destiny
1 x Entreat the Angels
1 x Divine Deflection
1 x Defy Death
1 x Banishing Stroke
1 x Demystify
2 x Pacifism
1 x Call to Serve
2 x Oblivion Ring
3 x Divine Favor


Artifacts
2 x Scroll of Avacyn
1 x Akroma's Memorial

Fixed that up so people know what you're talking about for every card, in-case they don't.
I don't really know what to add, I'm a beginner :x


Thanks for the help Legos, I apparently fail at autocard...would love your input.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 29, 2012 - 6:52AM #5
AzazelWandering
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2011
Posts: 1,311
Stop buying cards until we have finalized your deck.


How many cards is your deck currently?

What is your Budget? Do you have any Format or Legality restrictions? 


I'll list some cards I would run as a playset, and explain why:

4 Wall Of Omens

Many of your Angels are costly, and won't hit the field until late in the game. This creature will help you survive until then - and it draws you cards. It also functions well alongside Emancipation Angel .

4 Ajani's PrideMate

You need a win condition, and this card benefits from all your LifeGain.

4 Journey To Nowhere
4 Oblivion Ring  

 Many of your Angels are costly, and won't hit the field until late in the game. These cards will help you deal with threats until your Angels arrive. You can also reset their targets with  Emancipation Angel .

4 Sejiri Steppe

Most of your Angels (thankfully) have Evasion, but it's still important to protect them (and enable finishing strikes). It also functions well alongside Emancipation Angel .

4 GlimmerPost

GlimmerPost is cute and it gains you life. It also functions well alongside Emancipation Angel .


LifeGain purely for the sake of gaining life is basically useless - it needs to be accomplishing something, like winning via Ajani's PrideMate or Felidar Sovereign . Your current deck needs to do something with the Life its gaining.


I was suprised by the various synergies surrounding   Emancipation Angel and I thought I would spitball the kinda deck I would build, if you wanted a deck with an emphasis on Angels and Life. Although, quite frankly, focussing on one of those things rather than both would likely make your deck stronger.

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2 Seraph Sanctuary
4 GlimmerPost
4 Sejiri Steppe
14 Plains

4 Soul Warden
4 Wall Of Omens
4 Ajani's PrideMate
1 SilverBlade Paladin
Emancipation Angel
4 BaneSlayer Angel
2 Felidar Sovereign
1 ArchAngel

4 Mind Stone
4 Journey To Nowhere
4 Oblivion Ring  
1 Angelic Destiny  

I also incorporated a handful of the cards you listed as having purchased.

This is something of a Soul Sisters deck - an archetype I strongly encourage you to investigate.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 29, 2012 - 12:59PM #6
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16

Aug 29, 2012 -- 6:52AM, AzazelWandering wrote:

Stop buying cards until we have finalized your deck.


How many cards is your deck currently?

What is your Budget? Do you have any Format or Legality restrictions? 


I'll list some cards I would run as a playset, and explain why:

4 Wall Of Omens

Many of your Angels are costly, and won't hit the field until late in the game. This creature will help you survive until then - and it draws you cards. It also functions well alongside Emancipation Angel .

4 Ajani's PrideMate

You need a win condition, and this card benefits from all your LifeGain.

4 Journey To Nowhere
4 Oblivion Ring  

 Many of your Angels are costly, and won't hit the field until late in the game. These cards will help you deal with threats until your Angels arrive. You can also reset their targets with  Emancipation Angel .

4 Sejiri Steppe

Most of your Angels (thankfully) have Evasion, but it's still important to protect them (and enable finishing strikes). It also functions well alongside Emancipation Angel .

4 GlimmerPost

GlimmerPost is cute and it gains you life. It also functions well alongside Emancipation Angel .


LifeGain purely for the sake of gaining life is basically useless - it needs to be accomplishing something, like winning via Ajani's PrideMate or Felidar Sovereign . Your current deck needs to do something with the Life its gaining.


I was suprised by the various synergies surrounding   Emancipation Angel and I thought I would spitball the kinda deck I would build, if you wanted a deck with an emphasis on Angels and Life. Although, quite frankly, focussing on one of those things rather than both would likely make your deck stronger.

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2 Seraph Sanctuary
4 GlimmerPost
4 Sejiri Steppe
14 Plains

4 Soul Warden
4 Wall Of Omens
4 Ajani's PrideMate
1 SilverBlade Paladin
Emancipation Angel
4 BaneSlayer Angel
2 Felidar Sovereign
1 ArchAngel

4 Mind Stone
4 Journey To Nowhere
4 Oblivion Ring  
1 Angelic Destiny  

I also incorporated a handful of the cards you listed as having purchased.

This is something of a Soul Sisters deck - an archetype I strongly encourage you to investigate.


I am mostly going to play casually, sometimes going into a local shop for a tourney.

I actually picked up a Felidar Sovereign for the end game ability

I knew my weakest aspect of said hypothetical deck was the lower end creatures.  I have been using some Gideon's Lawkeeper and Cathedral Sanctifier ...I know they aren't ideal but I like their effects.

I really like the Wall you recomended and the Cat.

I have Oblivion Rings ready to deploy, and I think the Land I selected work best for what I'm trying to do. 

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9 months ago  ::  Aug 29, 2012 - 1:56PM #7
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16
This is my current decklist and I think it takes into consideration your points about win condition with all the life gain.  The one major card I believe I'm missing are my Baneslayer Angel . I chose angel as a base creature becasue of the flying and other nifty effects they have, I see lifegain as having 2 benefits for me in this deck; defense (can't eat away life that regenerates), and win condition.  If my lifegain win condition with Felidar is taken out the +1/+1 counters I gain with the life gain should put me over the top.

I included Herald of War because I think the reduction of mana cost is worth it to get my big hitters out sooner.

I am still interested in opinions, if anyone sees a major flaw please let me know so I can try to cover myself.  Thanks for participating!!

Lands
4 Seraph Sanctuary
2 Emeria, the Sky Ruin  
16 Plains

Creatures
1 Felidar Sovereign  
1 Avacyn, Angel of Hope
1 Linvala, Keeper of Silence
1 Serra Avatar
1 Admonition Angel

4 Emancipation Angel
4 Herald of War
4 Lightkeeper of Emeria  
4 Wall of Omen
4 Ajani's Pridemate

Spells
2 Silence
1 Entreat the Angels
1 Defy Death
1 Divine Deflection

Artifact
1 Akroma's memorial

Enchantments
1 Angelic Destiny
3 Oblivion Ring
2 Cradle of Vitality
1 Leyline of Sanctity
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 29, 2012 - 6:09PM #8
AzazelWandering
Date Joined: Mar 31, 2011
Posts: 1,311
If you are going to run Emeria, The Sky Ruin then it should be the only non-basic Land that you run. I'd also run 24 lands here.

Without acceleration most of your cards with a CMC of 6 or more aren't going to see play. I'd cut everything save Felidar Sovereign - I'd also up it to a 2 of.

I feel like LightKeeper Of Emeria is just going to be too slow, and again, you aren't running any ramp.

Herald Of War isn't going to be effective here. I wouldn't run it. 

I dislike the Miracle ability without any Library Manipulation.

I feel like Divine Deflection isn't particularly worthwhile here - especially without Ramp and as only a 1 of.

Akroma's Memorial should be cut as part of the "CMC of 6 or more thing": it doesn't really suit the deck.

Both Cradle Of Vitality and Leyline Of Sanctity don't seem great here - especially if they aren't going to be run in any number.


Basically, I'd work to bring the average CMC of this deck down and to increase the numbers of playsets. I'll list a handful of low CMC creatures which would be good here: Avian Changeling , Gold Myr , Angelic Page , Squadron Hawk , Mother Of Runes , etc.
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 9:52AM #9
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16
In the spirit of keeping it an Angel deck I tihnk it would be better to look into some ramping, like Gold Myr and other artifacts.
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9 months ago  ::  Aug 30, 2012 - 5:55PM #10
MarkHammerschmidt
Date Joined: Aug 28, 2012
Posts: 16
I did a little research on top of the lower CMC cards you suggested, tell me what you think...

Grand ABolisher
Knight of the White Orchid
Weathered Wayfarer
Martyr of Sands
Serra Ascendant
Spectral Rider
Student of Warfare
True Believer

Those were just the white ones that I found interesting
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