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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 8:55PM #1
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I was thinking about what power cards white will have post rotation, and how it's losing a ton of power when the scars block rotates. There is W/X humans, but that deck hasn't been very consistent lately from what I've seen. After Sun Titan , Hero of Bladehold , Elesh Norn, Grand Cenobite , Day of Judgment , Jideon Jura , Blade Splicer rotate the color seems castrated. The power cards left will be Restoration Angel , Geist of Saint Traft (Delver looks like it might take a hit too, which hits Geist), Oblivion ring (Whites all around most powerful card imo), possibly champion of the parish and Sublime Archangel .

I've felt that white has played a Robin to the other colors Batman lately, but I wonder if it is going to take a further backseat soon. Return to Ravinica can change all of this, but it will need to boost white a ton to get it on the level of B/G/U. Red is another Robin, but that is for another thread.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 11:22PM #2
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 8:55PM, puonu wrote:

Restoration Angel



Have best creature in Standard.
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What's wrong with my formating?

you make paragraphs shorter than the page width


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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 12:05AM #3
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White seems to be the second strongest color in Standard going into RTR, after Green. There's no way that White is playing second fiddle to Black right now. If it weren't for Zombies, Black would be non-existent in the meta (disregarding the janky Black Market builds). As you mentioned, White has the true beatsticks of Delver, in Geist and Restoration Angel. I could easily see a tempo-based W/u deck dominating early on, without knowledge of the new set.

If you want to complain about any color, it should be Red. This is one of the first formats in a while where Red doesn't have a decent Aggro build... or Midrange build... or Control build. Take away Thundermaw and Bonfire, and what do you have?

 
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 12:46AM #4
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well you still have Magmaquake , Cleaver Riot  and  Blasphemous Act .... on top of that from Innistrad up to M13, if I am not mistaken from these 4 sets, I think there is more draw cards now then there has been for quite awhile now that was mainly for a red deck without the splashing for a different color.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 12:55AM #5
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Aug 23, 2012 -- 12:46AM, Emperor_Crusty wrote:

well you still have Magmaquake , Cleaver Riot  and  Blasphemous Act .... on top of that from Innistrad up to M13, if I am not mistaken from these 4 sets, I think there is more draw cards now then there has been for quite awhile now that was mainly for a red deck without the splashing for a different color.




How could I forget Cleaver Riot?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 9:09AM #6
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Because this forum is for decks that might someday be able to beat a casual?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 12:15PM #7
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Cleaver Riot gives all your creatures double strike. Imagine how good Delver would be with double strike.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 5:24PM #8
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Aug 23, 2012 -- 12:15PM, Suudsu2200 wrote:

Cleaver Riot gives all your creatures double strike. Imagine how good Delver would be with double strike.




Why spend 5 mana for that when you can spend 1 mana for assault strobe ?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 5:41PM #9
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I have something of a dilemna.  I want to post what I think, but I don't want to get tempbanned again.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 23, 2012 - 5:44PM #10
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Aug 23, 2012 -- 5:41PM, catowner wrote:

I have something of a dilemna.  I want to post what I think, but I don't want to get tempbanned again.




Just quote FR, his post is more fitting for you anyway.

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