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10 months ago ::
Aug 25, 2012 - 7:16AM
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Date Joined:
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WOW shooting from the hip huh SeishinKazuna...........???? Lol, he specifically said no cards from before the Innistrad set....
Some people find reading before posting to be a bit challenging. ;D
Just to clarify, I'm not skipping cheap cards from M12 and SOM block for budget reasons... I'm skipping them for "Why get accusomted to having them as tools when I won't have most/all of them as tools in a few weeks". Obviously I'd be skipping expensive cards for those sets regardless.
Cavern of Souls is a nice card but kinda pricey...... Moonsilver Spear is also another nice card but i wish it costed a bit less on the mana since it is 4 to put out and 4 to equip.... other then that not sure what to tell ya about the other cards.......
Cavern is alright, the problem is that it's colorless for anything that isn't an Angel. Oh and it's ridiculously expensive, just for something whose situational value may simply not justify the cost. The Spear isn't a bad consideration but, if I'm gonna play something that costs a lot of mana, I'd rather stick to my removal miracles. My offense has enough power behind it from the creatures I have in the deck. Anything that impedes it is probably better handled by removal than making angel tokens slowly. Vanishment  has the secondary benefit of being able to be used offensively to keep someone from topdecking a solution, especially if cast for its miracle cost.
I'll stop rambling, but just some thoughts on how to improve the list without breaking the bank.
Actually, I currently shifted to UBW. The land budget went up, but the lands are bound to play very well with the new Ravnica block, so I consider it an extremely beneficial investment. Thragtusk  was just something I couldn't deal well with, and I was a bit sketchy against enemy Walkers... so I've been trying Appetite for Brains  , and am very satisfied with my testing of it so far. It can nail Thrag and Walkers before they hit the board, but much cheaper and less color-committed than say... Dissipate  .
I'll post an updated decklist soon.
My logic in keeping Blue is for a few reasons:
- It allows me to continue with Vanishment to take out Knight of Infamy  /Glory in a mirror match.
- It affords me Outwit  and Negate  as answers to burn spells like Bonfire... more importantly, they're cheap answers. Otherwise a topdeck Bonfire for 3 could basically be an auto-loss and, judging from the pricetag and my own guessing at its sheer power in practice, it's something I will need an answer to given my creature-based deck. Redirect  would be awesome to keep in, but I don't think my mana base can support the double-blue consistently enough.
I also went up to 26 lands for now, but added in 2 Cathedral of War  . MTGO has punsihed me a lot at 24. 26 is definitely too many in a normal paper environment, but the plus side is that the excess lands play well with hard-casting Banishing Stroke  and Vanishment . That's one of the things about computerized RNG, it is genuine RNG in all its fury.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 25, 2012 - 11:52AM
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Date Joined:
Jul 19, 2012
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It's official he's either really stupid or he WANTS his deck to fail.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 25, 2012 - 7:25PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2011
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Resto Angel is a great card when it can be used correctly. However with the list I saw, there are only 8 possible targets that you will be flickering. You can't save any of the angels that are in the list, nor can you flicker knight of infamy since its pro white? So you will most likely only be flickering a Silverblade, which is nice I guess if you then bond it to Resto Angel, but seems like a very slim amount of time that would be happening.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 25, 2012 - 7:57PM
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tl;dr
cut blue, its not doing anything productive as is.
Agreed. Mono-white or WG with Rancor  and Sigarda, host of herons  . Black and blue do nothing here.
If you're really dead-set on black, maybe consider Lingering Souls  as well, but appetite isn't worth it. The spirits will buffer sublime, and can chump.
Since you've got a lot of exalted going on, Rancor is a must-have though. Seriously.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 12:53AM
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Date Joined:
Apr 25, 2005
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It's official he's either really stupid or he WANTS his deck to fail.
My you're rude aren't you... especially for someone whose post boils down to "Swap these cards because I say so and no I can't be bothered to justify myself other than to be insulting". Sorry kid, can't be bothered to take you seriously.
Resto Angel is a great card when it can be used correctly. However with the list I saw, there are only 8 possible targets that you will be flickering.
By my count I am up to 12 now, potentially 16 with sideboard. As a 3/4 with Flash and Flying, it's still quite strong for the cost even if nothing can be flickered. I will agree that arguably Restoration Angel  and Serra Avenger  are not very good, but then I wouldn't be using Angels. There still is a certain measure of fun and theme going on with this. ;p
If you're really dead-set on black, maybe consider Linger  ing Souls  as well, but appetite isn't worth it. The spirits will buffer sublime, and can chump.
Usually Sublime needs very little buffering, whenever she's down, it's not uncommon to already be swinging for ~10. Appetite has exceeded my expectations so far by quite a lot.
Since you've got a lot of exalted going on, Rancor is a must-have though. Seriously.
Rancor does have some appeal, but I haven't been having any issues being chumped. WBG is not without appeal as an option.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 1:53PM
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Date Joined:
Aug 14, 2011
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It's official he's either really stupid or he WANTS his deck to fail.
My you're rude aren't you... especially for someone whose post boils down to "Swap these cards because I say so and no I can't be bothered to justify myself other than to be insulting". Sorry kid, can't be bothered to take you seriously.
Resto Angel is a great card when it can be used correctly. However with the list I saw, there are only 8 possible targets that you will be flickering.
By my count I am up to 12 now, potentially 16 with sideboard. As a 3/4 with Flash and Flying, it's still quite strong for the cost even if nothing can be flickered. I will agree that arguably Restoration Angel and Serra Avenger are not very good, but then I wouldn't be using Angels. There still is a certain measure of fun and theme going on with this. ;p
If you're really dead-set on black, maybe consider Linger ing Souls as well, but appetite isn't worth it. The spirits will buffer sublime, and can chump.
Usually Sublime needs very little buffering, whenever she's down, it's not uncommon to already be swinging for ~10. Appetite has exceeded my expectations so far by quite a lot.
Since you've got a lot of exalted going on, Rancor is a must-have though. Seriously.
Rancor does have some appeal, but I haven't been having any issues being chumped. WBG is not without appeal as an option.
I agree with you that is it a fun theme, and I personally like Serra Avenger a lot. Just kind of figured I'd give you a heads up about Resto Angel with what you can flicker/save. And you only have 8 potential targets from the cards you posted (12) including SB. You can only target Silverblade and Knight of Glory. Obviously non of the angels can be targetted, and also Knight of Infamy  has Pro-White, so you also can't target that. You should certainly still use Resto-Angel beause it can still act as a Flash 3/4 Blocker that fits your theme. Just tryin to be a little helpful about things you may run in to.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 26, 2012 - 2:11PM
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A 3/4 with flash is justification enough for restoration angel.
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