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Switch to Forum Live View 8/22/2012 Feature: Planeswalker's Guide to Ravnica: Part 1
10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 1:10PM #41
Veslfen
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 10:58AM, gruulsmash wrote:

Aug 22, 2012 -- 7:55AM, alextfish wrote:

Aug 22, 2012 -- 6:40AM, gruulsmash wrote:

And those who say a whole citywide plane is unrealistic, speed up current trends and bam! the earth is a huge interconnected cityscape.




Rather than poke all the holes in this myself, I'll direct you to:

www.darthsanddroids.net/episodes/0126.ht...
www.irregularwebcomic.net/386.html
www.irregularwebcomic.net/393.html (the Golgari are apparently supposed to provide some of this role, but on that scale? really?)
www.irregularwebcomic.net/396.html
www.irregularwebcomic.net/420.html 


Thats the argument about the realism of the idea, not its actual arrival, The ravnicans can build huge floating skytowers, and planes don't always conform to our idea of physics. also, thre is a huge aamount of green spaace, but it is seemlessly connected to the city. And thousands of ravnicans starve every year. the poor are horrendouslyy treated, and they probably have lower living standards than your dog. Heck, they probably have worse lives with jobs than americans on welfare.




To be fair, none of these address the issue of thermodynamics - that kind of population density over an entire plane is going to make it hotter than hell. Possibly literally.

You'll forget you ever read this the minute you look away.

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Aug 17, 2011 -- 10:58PM, TranscientMaster wrote:

Aug 17, 2011 -- 6:10PM, Uhhsam wrote:

there is nothing "epic" about a turn one victory.  ever.

or really any magic game, for that matter.



So this one time, I wanted to play a game of Magic with my friend, but he was in another country and neither of us had Magic Online. I hitchhiked my way to the coast, barely fending off hungry wildlife when I couldn't get a ride, nearly dying of thirst crossing deserts, and posoning myself half to death foraging for food. At one point, I was taken hostage by a group of kidnappers, only managing to escape after a week of careful planning thanks to careful application of a rusty spoon.

Once I reached the coast, I had no money to buy a ticket across the ocean, so I built a boat using my own two hands, and spent months sailing across the waves, nearly losing my deck as I swam to the shore of a desert island in a storm after being capsized by an enormous wave. Nearly delusional after so long with no human contact (the notches I cut in the single tree to tell time had long since felled the thing) I was eventually rescued by a passing ship, where I was taken aboard as a crew member.

We sailed around the world, seeing many exotic places and having great adventures, before we finally arrived at my friend's country.  Once more I stumbled across a desolate landscape, riding on train or car when I could, and going on foot when I could not. Eventually, weary to the bone, seven years after I started my journey, I arrived at my friend's house, clutching my well-worn and weathered deck to my chest. We shuffled up our decks, I won the roll. Gleefully, I laid down my cards.

Black Lotus . My friend looked quizzically at me, wondering what I was about to do. After so long, he no longer knew what deck I had brought with me to this game.

Flash . A knowing smile appears on my friend's face as the knowledge slowly returns to him.

Protean Hulk .

My friend extends his hand, knowing the game is over before it even started. And finally, after so many trials, the sweet taste of victory is mine.



Jun 19, 2011 -- 10:57PM, jstorrie wrote:

Jun 19, 2011 -- 10:47PM, hahapotatoes wrote:

So no one else is upset with the stunt Wizards just pulled to drive sales?


Drive sales of what? Non-Jace, non-Mystic cards? I'm pretty sure people already own more than eight Magic cards. If you don't, I feel for you. Maybe you can trade those Stoneforge Mystics, which are still quite valuable, for some.


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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 1:39PM #42
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 4:00AM, Symar wrote:

Aug 22, 2012 -- 1:17AM, Dothar_Vahlin wrote:

 

The cleric who oversees the entire site is Troslon, a rugged loxodon who is a bit of a rebel by Selesnyan standards in that he puts the natural world before the desires of the guild. This is illustrated in his defense of the sacred tree of Belokos (see below).




Did I miss some part of the article here or is it just not there?



Maybe its this piece of art?
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Hard to tell with no card information though :p


I'm feeling a Loxodon Warhammer somewhere along the line...

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 3:05PM #43
Wahooney
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Normally I'd check the whole thread to see if someone already posted about this, but this deserves repetition.


If elementals are sufficiently large enough



Seriously, Magic Creative Team?

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 3:19PM #44
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 1:39PM, droolster2010 wrote:

Aug 22, 2012 -- 4:00AM, Symar wrote:

Aug 22, 2012 -- 1:17AM, Dothar_Vahlin wrote:

 

The cleric who oversees the entire site is Troslon, a rugged loxodon who is a bit of a rebel by Selesnyan standards in that he puts the natural world before the desires of the guild. This is illustrated in his defense of the sacred tree of Belokos (see below).




Did I miss some part of the article here or is it just not there?



Maybe its this piece of art?
Spoiler: Show


Hard to tell with no card information though :p


I'm feeling a Loxodon Warhammer somewhere along the line...





If the Whammer were to come back during Ravnica block, I think I might quit Standard for a while >.>  The creatures are already too dang good, especially the hexproof ones.  We don't need to give every one of them souped up lifelink to replace the blasted swords.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 3:21PM #45
beank091787
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I have been waiting for this block since we left the original Ravnica and was disappointed by Lorwyn (the set I stopped play at by the way)....

This is the set that will make or break my opinion of wizards. The have messed up a few things in my opinion, but I have stuck with them because I came back to the game at Innastrad and was marginally pleased....

Them ruining this block, for me personally, would be like what Hollywood did to GI Joe.... (Ruined a childhood clasic)

Ravnica remains one of the only stories that you could tell me anything and I would accept it under the principles of willing suspension of disbelief. It was just that amazing to me....

Now with stories being Planeswalker centric (something that I still believed killed Wizards ability to tell decent stories) we will not see into the world of Ravnica as we did in the past. The Plane that the block is centered around is pretty much secondary to "OOOOOHHHHHH LOOOKKKKK PLANESWALKERS!!!!!" (Yes I understand that Urza, Karn, Tefferi, and them were PLs, but that was back when we had two Planes to worry about and still had a story centered on the Plane instead of what a PL was doing on the plane). It would be nice for Wizards to start the books back up but they need to get away from Lilianna, Garruk, Jace, and Co. and back to Ixador, Kos, Glissa, and the other denizens of the Plane that made the stories worth reading in the first place.

I am willing to accept any ret-cons, re-tellings, and other changes they can throw at me, but please for the love of all that is good, get rid of the Planeswalkers as story line plots. Leave them as a plot point in the sence that high-level Ravnicans have dealt with them, but dont make the story about what they are doing on Ravnica.

Beyond that, they just need to keep the excitement that had us through all 3 of the original Ravnica block going through all 3 of the RTR blocks.

Wizards, if you can do this, then i will forgive all the FtV, Mythic Rares, PLs as cards, and other such nonsense that you have been up to.

What you have be fore you Wizards, could either be The GodFather: Pt.II....

Or Star Wars Episode I....

And I pray all of you at Wizards knows with one is good and which one is bad....
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 4:08PM #46
Senyuno
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How awesome would it be to have manlands that EtB tapped and have dual basic land subtypes :3?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 4:34PM #47
Thalatta
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 4:08PM, Senyuno wrote:

How awesome would it be to have manlands that EtB tapped and have dual basic land subtypes :3?



It would be awesome. :D

I'm personally half-hoping that we get something that is *not* shocklands in Return to Ravnica and Guildpact but still has basic land subtype(s) - such as a Forest with , : Add to your mana pool - and then the shocklands anyway in the last set. :P

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 5:13PM #48
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Aug 22, 2012 -- 1:39PM, droolster2010 wrote:

 I'm feeling a Loxodon Warhammer somewhere along the line...




God I hope not...

A part of why I'm choosing to get into the game now is partly due to Ravnica being awesome, but also due to Mirrodin leaving, and the Swords with em. We don't need any more stupid artifacts that every deck pretty much needs to play thank you muchly.

Also, @Beank - Well said sir. 

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 10:45PM #49
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Aug 21, 2012 -- 9:52PM, Demento_Recraves wrote:

Interested to see how the represent Trostani on a card.  One creature that makes two tokens?  One card with three abilities? Triple split card?! Triple face card!?!?!?!


Sen Triplets type of thing maybe? The flavor fits and actually the ability kind of does too. (A lasting Word of Command effect for a medium? Sure!)

Aug 22, 2012 -- 5:54AM, Lavrant wrote:

So given that one of the pieces of art revealed is a TEMPLE with a GARDEN in it, with the Selesnya guild logo smack dab in the middle, I guess it's all but confirmed that shockland reprints are go.


I'm surprised there hasn't been 10 pages of this. That art couldn't fit anything else. It's a TEMPLE with a GARDEN in it. Remember not too long ago when they spoiled that GLACIER with the CHASM in it? Duh .

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 22, 2012 - 11:50PM #50
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Cautiously optomistic.

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