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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 5:03AM
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I have a feeling the living temples are gonna b like stalking stone duals that dont produce mana when theyre creatures but can turn back into a land with a activated ability. And i think the centaurs are gonna be like put a token into play populate.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 5:08AM
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It's kind of odd which guilds the Selesnya like and which guilds they don't. i would have expected at least a little optimism for any guild sharing their colors, but the gruul are a "waste" and the simic are doomed. it's only the azorius and the boros that are expected to come around, and to a lesser extent the golgari who could potentially benefit from their wisdom. the other guilds are either doomed or useless. it seems like the order element is much more important than the growth element for selesnyans. which makes them seem a lot more white than green. the weirdest thing is they seem to be more hopeful for the rakdos than the gruul, which doesn't make much sense to me. maybe "until they submit" was just a poor choice of words.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 5:47AM
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To be fair, I suspect they sympathise a little with the Rakdos, since they're both considered cults by most ravnicans.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 5:49AM
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Mar 21, 2012
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Also, what is up with Dimir existing so openly? What happened to "9 guilds... and hushed whispers of a 10th". It's like you guys don't remember Ravnica, when the secret guild is displayed so openly.
Remember those Ravnica books? The Dimir guild leader got arrested. The organization is no longer a secret to the other guilds.
"Oh-ooh-Duh! I am so excited with RTR. Now I know why it was so famous...and I also love Jace! Doo-Duh! Thank you mother Wizards duh-duh!"
- Random lamer nowadays player!
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 5:54AM
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So given that one of the pieces of art revealed is a TEMPLE with a GARDEN in it, with the Selesnya guild logo smack dab in the middle, I guess it's all but confirmed that shockland reprints are go.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 6:05AM
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Yay for extremely detailed investigations into each of the ten guilds. I think one of these every 2-4 weeks will be an awesome treat to look forward to. To do five guilds around RTR before GTC rolls around, that'd average one every three weeks, which sounds excellent. There are a number of believability issues with assorted things about Ravnica (starting with the idea of a "worldwide city" itself) which aren't really addressed. A lot of what's here needs a certain amount of "AWizardDidIt" handwaves to make it make sense. (Wurms that tunnel underground, turning the soil into a liquid-like state? So multiple buildings collapse every time a wurm submerges or emerges due to their foundations suddenly being rooted in nothing at all? And apparently wurms are "mostly" used for defense, rather than, say, transport? Just how much of Selesnya's time is spent defending themselves, and against who?) Slightly shoddy editing in a few places. Things like "If elementals are sufficiently large enough, they are often used as". Or the random stand-alone sentence "Trostani, the Selesnya Guildmaster."... was that meant to be a picture? Also, I'm not sure about the consistency of the claims of the Great Concourse and the Topiary Grove: last time round I thought we were told the buildings of the city covered every part of Ravnica. A forest with an overpass doesn't sound like a part of a city to me - more like a green belt. Finally, the article is very blurred as to how much of what's written is objectively recognised by most non-Selesnyans as being true, and how much is Selesnyan religious teaching that the viashino-on-the-street would be sceptical of. But for all the nitpicks, it is of course awesome to look forward to return to one of the best settings and blocks in Magic's history. Ravnica was fantastic last time, quite possibly the absolute highlight of the 14 years I've been playing, and it's extremely satisfying to see it get the in-depth Planeswalker's Guide treatment.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 6:28AM
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The cleric who oversees the entire site is Troslon, a rugged loxodon who is a bit of a rebel by Selesnyan standards in that he puts the natural world before the desires of the guild. This is illustrated in his defense of the sacred tree of Belokos (see below).
Did I miss some part of the article here or is it just not there?
Maybe its this piece of art?
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Hard to tell with no card information though :p
Wait a second.
Loxodon have fingernails?!
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 6:38AM
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Oct 30, 2008
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Interested to see how the represent Trostani on a card. One creature that makes two tokens? One card with three abilities? Triple split card?! Triple face card!?!?!?!
Wonder if they're going to stick to the Ravnica structure of printing two legendary creatures from each guild, or if they'll be more flexible this time around.
They already did
Chorus of the Conclave 
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 6:40AM
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Apr 14, 2012
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The cleric who oversees the entire site is Troslon, a rugged loxodon who is a bit of a rebel by Selesnyan standards in that he puts the natural world before the desires of the guild. This is illustrated in his defense of the sacred tree of Belokos (see below).
Did I miss some part of the article here or is it just not there?
Maybe its this piece of art?
Spoiler:
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Hard to tell with no card information though :p
Wait a second.
Loxodon have fingernails?!
in this vein, I would just like to say that they explain belekos immiadiately after that sentence.
Also: OMG RAVNICA!!!!
I wasn't playing when it was first around but Ive read every flavor article from the time. What I'm hoping to see is an eleventh force arise. A non-guild organization (lead by yeva) that directly challanges the guilds. And those who say a whole citywide plane is unrealistic, speed up current trends and bam! the earth is a huge interconnected cityscape.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 22, 2012 - 7:08AM
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I think it makes sense that the guild structure wouldn't just collapse overnight, and Dissenssion ended with Teysa writing a new Guildpact. I'm just wondering how the Dimir or Gruul are justified in it now, since the former was written in as a counterbalance according to the novels (which contrasts with the flavor written online which said that the Dimir were used by the guilds as assassins and spies), and the Gruul's job has since been lost. Not feeling the new direction for Selesnya. I thought they were spot on the first time. Besides, wouldn't "individual ambitions" cause a separation from your source of power if you're Selesnyan? And 100% lifting the "keepers of beauty" thing from the elves of Shadowmoor is lame.
Also, what is up with Dimir existing so openly? What happened to "9 guilds... and hushed whispers of a 10th". It's like you guys don't remember Ravnica, when the secret guild is displayed so openly.
Szadek killed the Chorus of the Conclave in front of everyone. They're not secret anymore.
I also don't think the Conclave is going in a new direction with the mention of individual ambitions. It makes sense that there is variability within the guilds as they're supposed to be people. I wouldn't blink if the existence of those who confuse the devotion to Mat'Selesnya with their personal glory was true last time we went to Ravnica; it's just put out there now. Wizards has been giving fuller information on all the planes lately, much of which is unnecessary to understanding the cards and are never represented there.
Interested to see how the represent Trostani on a card. One creature that makes two tokens? One card with three abilities? Triple split card?! Triple face card!?!?!?!
Wonder if they're going to stick to the Ravnica structure of printing two legendary creatures from each guild, or if they'll be more flexible this time around.
They already did
Chorus of the Conclave
Trostani is not the Chorus.
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