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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 7:26AM
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Are there any creatures established in Magic lore apart from planeswalkers that are interplanar? I know about the Eldrazi, but was much fleshed out about what they did and were other than giantic destructive beings? I just find it weird that lots of "gods" in Magic are bound to specific planes, without any Multiverse-wide effects, or any explanation for that limitation.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 7:41AM
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You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 7:41AM
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Wasn't there some kind of a thing where the Myojin of Night's Reach  could planeswalk? Also the Skyship Weatherlight  and uh, Phyrexians  , if they have the right gear.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 8:24AM
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For the most part, deities are manifestations of mana, so they tend to be planesbound (Myojins aside).
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 8:49AM
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And so why no overarching transplanar entities beyond planeswalkers? What gives them their spark? Are planes and sparks random hiccups in the Blind Eternities?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 9:26AM
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Nobody knows what causes the spark, or even what it is, but whatever it's true nature is, it is tied closely to the Blind Eternities. Anything without a spark tends to be vaporised in the chaotic aether.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 9:42AM
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There are a few creatures that can also travel the planes, or apparently had in the past. Cosmic Larva  could apparently move through the Blind Eternities, or at least transport between planes, and Timmerian Fiends  were designed/constructed/stitched together in a way that gave them something like 'walking abilities, which was essential for their mysterious mission of theft. Oh, and MaRo has speculated in the past that the Nephilim are not natives of Ravnica originally, but take that with a grain of salt.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 10:05AM
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Sep 11, 2010
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Fair enough. But are any of these entites (Weatherlight Crew aside) ever plot relevant to more than one plane? I'm baffled as to why a bunch of randomly gifted 'walkers are the highest thing in the Multiverse "food chain" for no apparent reason.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 10:17AM
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Yeah, I can understand that. I've also had trouble with understanding why randomly gifted people could use magic and were sent to Hogwarts in Harry Potter. Spoiler:
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It's the anthropic principle. Without it, there would be no story.
"What is etherium but the next logical step?" It's all my fault.
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Hell, if they steal from us, we'd be honored.
oh my god, AWESOME!
Then changing the Slivers was your idea! haha
lol
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10 months ago ::
Aug 20, 2012 - 10:45AM
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Sep 11, 2010
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Yeah, but I at least expected some effort, a la Exalted explaining the randomness of the "Spark of Exaltation" by the need for no interference by the gods otherwises they couldn't act against the Primordials and suchlike. Or the ridiciously complex cosmology of the Elder Scrolls series. Planeswalkers seem a little silly as plot McGuffins, but if that's the way things were built...
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