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Aug 18, 2012 -- 12:25PM, chronego wrote:

They're lands! They're never going to be the center of your marketing Strategy. They're never going to be the most memorable thing in a block. They exist solely to facilitate the playing of the game. Whether they're full art or not, their purpose is to slide under the radar.

The best part of Unglued, Unhinged, and Zendikar, imho, were the full art lands.  Easily.  I found Zendikar block overall rather boring, but the lands give me hope that if/when we return, I'll have something to look forward to.  Oh, and I guess more Eldrazi would be nice.

Aug 18, 2012 -- 7:50AM, sperry wrote:

Here's what I don't understand:


Why not just make all basic lands full art?  Basic lands get what is likely the best art in all of Magic, and yet with the new card frame the land art is overshadowed by how cheap and terrible the physical looks.  Honestly, I think an overwhelming portion of the Magic playing populace would rate Full art >>>> old frame lands >>>> new frame lands.


I really don't understand saving full art lands for a once in a blue moon type deal.  As long as they keep making good sets with popular cards, card sales are going to be high.  Wish they would benefit the players as a whole by giving them decent looking lands, rather than holding out full art lands for a once a decade sales gimmick.

I'm confident we'll get there eventually, just like (as for roughly the same reasons as) Core Sets are now printed with black borders. But I also don't see any reason for RTR to be the moment when they'll make the shift.

Aug 19, 2012 -- 12:11PM, sperry wrote:

I understand that they are using them as a gimmick to sell more packs when they actually do them once every 8 years or whatever, but I'm saying that that's just bad for the players.  Unlike printing cards that effect actual gameplay (and thus reprinting cool things that people want could have a downside), printing full art lands for the players is just actually all upside.  It's just foolish to sell you a bad version of cards in 9 out of 10 sets, and then use giving you what they should have given you in the first place as a gimmick to try to sell more cards.  It's akin to intentionally printing a terrible set so that your next good set looks even better in comparison.

If you are talking just land wise than I would have to dissagree, I believe the art for all the Innistrad block art to be super beautiful and also the spoiler art for the RtR block.

If you are talking about actual blocks and sets themselves overall, I personally know people that disliked nearly every part of the entire Zendikar block for this reason or that (exept for some exeptions). As for my opinion personally, I wasnt around for the Zendikar block so I would love it if they printed full art land at least a little bit more. But all I can say from a popularity aspect of blocks is that I personally mainly only come into contact with Zendikar cards that are the lands and more so the Eldrazi cards. But I would honestly have to say that I come into contact with more Alara cards than Zendikar on any givin day.

So I can't say that 9 out of every 10 sets are a bad version no matter what angle I read this as. 
 

Aug 19, 2012 -- 4:19PM, sperry wrote:

Aug 19, 2012 -- 3:26PM, Raidon333 wrote:

Aug 19, 2012 -- 12:11PM, sperry wrote:

I understand that they are using them as a gimmick to sell more packs when they actually do them once every 8 years or whatever, but I'm saying that that's just bad for the players.  Unlike printing cards that effect actual gameplay (and thus reprinting cool things that people want could have a downside), printing full art lands for the players is just actually all upside.  It's just foolish to sell you a bad version of cards in 9 out of 10 sets, and then use giving you what they should have given you in the first place as a gimmick to try to sell more cards.  It's akin to intentionally printing a terrible set so that your next good set looks even better in comparison.

If you are talking just land wise than I would have to dissagree, I believe the art for all the Innistrad block art to be super beautiful and also the spoiler art for the RtR block.

If you are talking about actual blocks and sets themselves overall, I personally know people that disliked nearly every part of the entire Zendikar block for this reason or that (exept for some exeptions). As for my opinion personally, I wasnt around for the Zendikar block so I would love it if they printed full art land at least a little bit more. But all I can say from a popularity aspect of blocks is that I personally mainly only come into contact with Zendikar cards that are the lands and more so the Eldrazi cards. But I would honestly have to say that I come into contact with more Alara cards than Zendikar on any givin day.

So I can't say that 9 out of every 10 sets are a bad version no matter what angle I read this as. 
 

I'm not saying the sets themselves are bad.  I'm saying they have a bad version of lands in them (non-full art.)  The art on most basic lands is fantastic, but you can barely see it because it's so small, and the new card frame on lands is terrible as well.  They need to do full art lands every block.  Intentionally making an inferior product so you can hype the better version every few years is just bad for the player base.

Oh, I read most of it wrong xD haha

And yeah, it almost makes me feel a bit like they are pushing us around, almost like them saying "Yeah we know this is what you really want, but we want it to remane "special" so we will only print it once every few years. Have fun with that." 

But on the other hand it does bring up a lot of hype for maybe a set that they want people to get excited about (unlike RtR where everyone is already head over heels for)