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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 7:32AM
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following todays uncharted realms, about kaalia the vast, I think shes to powerfull (in her flavor) to be just a meer mortal. so how abought her as a planes walker: kaalia, the vast     +2: ~ does 2 damage to target opponent, you gain 2 life, and target creature gets -2/-2 until the end of turn. -2: take control of target permanent that shares a color with ~ -6: put an angel, demon, or dragon card from your hand onto the battlefeild. I know this sounds like it should be in the you make the card section, but I wan't to get into her flavor, what is she doing know, has she killed neferox yet, or is she still trying, you tell me.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 7:34AM
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Just because someone is powerful, doesn't make them a 'Walker. That is silly.
EDIT: As for your card; you left out the starting loyalty. Also, her ultimate (while fitting her card) doesn't do what good ultimates do....win you the game. It would be more interesting if you searched your hand, graveyard, and library for an angel, a dragon, and a demon card (search three zones, get three creatures) and put them into play.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:11AM
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No. Just no.
First of all, raw power does not a walker make. There's plenty of powerful beings out there that aren't walkers and never will be. Conversely, not all walkers are powerful.
Secondly, nothing about her character needs to be a walker. Her character is wrapped up in seeking revenge against Nefarox's cult. Her character is intrinsically tied to Alara. Being a walker does nothing for her.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:27AM
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i know that just because there power full doesnt meen there a planeswalker, i just thought it would be "cool' if she was. as for the starting loyalty counters, sorry, i forgot that. she starts with 5, and i was going for a faster plainswalker, like the first garuuk, but also, there tons of angels, demons, and dragons, that when on the feild, do win you the game, ( e.i. iona, sheild of emeria  ) if you want me to change it to your suggestion, I will. Also, this hole game is made up. Why is this specific idea "silly", i was just saying what if. People on the flavor thread are constantly making stuff up. But if you do insist that my reasoning is flawed, I came up with this idea because plaineswalkers are expedentionaly more powerfull than non-walkers, so saying that kaalia could cast something as big as a dragon/angel/demon with ease is above what most non-walkers could do.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:30AM
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This. A key to writing Planeswalkers is that you have to have a good reason for them to walk the planes.
Man, I really, really need to adapt some of what people have said about writing 'walker characters into an actual creator's guidebook...
EDIT: This was in reference to Thoctar. Man, neeeed to lay off the coffee. [twitch twitch twitch]
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:49AM
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I came up with this idea because plaineswalkers are expedentionaly more powerfull than non-walkers,
While there are exceptions, as a rule, that's not true post-mending. Current Planeswalkers are no different than any other member of their species outside of their ability to Planeswalk. They might know more or a greater variety of spells due to their capacity for traveling, but they are by no means stronger.
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:51AM
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i know that just because there power full doesnt meen there a planeswalker, i just thought it would be "cool' if she was. as for the starting loyalty counters, sorry, i forgot that. she starts with 5, and i was going for a faster plainswalker, like the first garuuk, but also, there tons of angels, demons, and dragons, that when on the field, do win you the game, ( e.i. iona, sheild of emeria ) if you want me to change it to your suggestion, I will.
Also, this hole game is made up. Why is this specific idea "silly", i was just saying what if. People on the flavor thread are constantly making stuff up. But if you do insist that my reasoning is flawed, I came up with this idea because plaineswalkers are expintionaly more powerfull than non-walkers, so saying that kaalia could cast something as big as a dragon/angel/demon with ease is above what most non-walkers could do.
I had something long and cool written out, but then I managed to accidently close my browser window and lost it all.
Anyway, about the card:
Her ultimate is only worth it if you have an angel, demon, or dragon in your hand, and only then it's not much of a helper because since she's six mana already, you could have already just played many of those creatures. Searching for a card to play from your deck is better, because you know you will find one to play. Searching three places for three creatures to play is worthy of an ultimate.
About Planeswalkers:
They're not as high and mighty as you think. Some of them are, yes, but there have been a great many non-'Walker mortals that have shown themselves to be more powerful that their plane-hopping brethren. Being able to 'walk doesn't make you more powerful, it just means you can travel more places. If a character has no reason to wander around outside their home plane, then there really isn't a good reason to make them a 'Walker.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:53AM
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I came up with this idea because plaineswalkers are expedentionaly more powerfull than non-walkers,
While there are exceptions, as a rule, that's not true post-mending. Current Planeswalkers are no different than any other member of their species outside of their ability to Planeswalk. They might know more or a greater variety of spells due to their capacity for traveling, but they are by no means stronger.
You fell victim to one of the classic blunders - The most famous of which is "never get involved in an thread with GM_Champion" - but only slightly less well-known is this: "Never go in against AzureShade when card design is on the line!
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 8:54AM
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@Keeper
I ripped off that "a walker needs a reason to walk" spiel, from you I believe, after you pointed out how many characters in Jedi's Planeswalker contest had no reason walking. *cough*likemine*cough*
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11 months ago ::
Aug 15, 2012 - 9:05AM
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@Keeper
I ripped off that "a walker needs a reason to walk" spiel, from you I believe, after you pointed out how many characters in Jedi's Planeswalker contest had no reason walking. *cough*likemine*cough*
I ripped it off from Szat, actually. I pointed it out, I think, originally, but Szat wrote a big long expansion on the idea, which I then ripped off of him in return. :P
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