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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 3:37AM #21
Banderbear
Date Joined: Aug 25, 2011
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Aug 10, 2012 -- 3:33AM, Highwayman wrote:

I missed the part about this being limited edition. Is that true?


In which case, I think we can expect the likes of magicmadhouse, who shamelessly sell FtV at £100+, to try their hand at £150 for this one.


Could not be more disgusted.  




"This will be a limited print run product, meant for the collectors and the avid Commander players."

So yeah, us Brits will probably not stand much chance of getting it for less than £150. Magicmadhouse just put FTV: Realms up for pre-order for £120 so I honestly wouldn't be surprised if they try and charge closer to £175 for it...

I'm sure the original announcement said (or at least implied) that this was meant to be something for all Commander players... I think I'd have prefered a £20/£30 set that reprint some of the 'must include' commons/uncommons and then just a selection of generals and other cards and a few sleeves... 

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 3:42AM #22
Luzifus
Date Joined: Mar 9, 2008
Posts: 171

Aug 10, 2012 -- 3:33AM, Highwayman wrote:

I missed the part about this being limited edition. Is that true? 




Yup. Right in the first paragraph of the Arcana announcement. I quote: "This will be a limited print run product, meant for the collectors and the avid Commander players."

And I quote again (this time for truth):

Aug 10, 2012 -- 3:33AM, Highwayman wrote:

Could not be more disgusted.  




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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 4:44AM #23
RxPhantom
Date Joined: Jun 29, 2011
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A few points:

1.  I dig the life counter a lot, not to mention the button counters.  The sleeves are probably ok, unless they're made by Ultra Pro.  If that's the case they'll fall apart quickly.

2.  If they're going to be brazen enough to charge $75, I'd bet that there's some really good stuff in there.  Hopefully, the good stuff won't be oversized jank, which leads me to my third point.

3.  Where is the market research that shows that people like oversized cards?  I don't use them, and I haven't played with anyone who does.  Since the set is so expensive, I wonder if these oversized cards will have their regular-sized counterparts included in the set.  They could easily package this in a similar manner to the Duel Decks, and have a regular foil as the face card.  It just seems like this is a waste of time and money for Wizards to keep printing these things.  Was anyone super excited to get oversized cards from their Helvault? 
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 5:22AM #24
will_dice
Date Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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Aug 10, 2012 -- 4:44AM, RxPhantom wrote:

The sleeves are probably ok, unless they're made by Ultra Pro.



They are:


  • 120 UltraPRO foil card sleeves
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 5:43AM #25
sacrificialdreams
Date Joined: Mar 5, 2007
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Aug 10, 2012 -- 3:33AM, Highwayman wrote:

So... speculation as to the remaining 8 legends: I'm thinking there are in total one of each color, and five multicolor. My guesses as to the monocolor ones:

Braids, cabal minion
Zirilan of the Claw
Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero
Kira, Great Glass-Spinner




Isn't Braids banned as a commander?

When Commander's Arsenal was announced I was hoping for something nearer the original commander pre-cons or a deckbuilder's toolkit for commander. 

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 5:50AM #26
will_dice
Date Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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It's just something hastly done in response to the Commander deck's success. The real good stuff (new pre-con decks) will be done yearly starting 2013.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 6:34AM #27
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I just want the + and - counters. They should just sell the baggy of 20 for like $4 in stores, and I'd totally buy it. But unless one of the foils is Horobi, Death's Wail , I'm never buying the full set.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 7:10AM #28
ChaosLight
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If the cards are worth 75 then they are probably too powerful for my playgroup, so i cant use them anyway.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 8:29AM #29
Portalis
Date Joined: May 31, 2005
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maybe a nice alt art for a Jace, the Mind Sculptor to help with price tag on this.  For some reason there are going to be some junky legends in here that you can get cheap in other stores
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 10, 2012 - 9:55AM #30
DomaDragoon
Date Joined: Aug 7, 2011
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Maybe the theory is that a playgroup will get together, buy one, and split the cards? The price is really a sticking point for me, for all that I know I'm not really the target audience for this since I only have one Commander deck and it's decidedly mediocre and non-pimped.

As for what might be in it, I'm crossing my fingers and hoping that they put in the Elder Dragons, even if only as the oversized cards.
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