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Switch to Forum Live View I'm liking Disciple of Bolas more and more
10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 12:38AM #1
mc2wire
Date Joined: Sep 7, 2011
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So I've been playing limited a bit and have found that Disciple of Bolas is more of a beating than I had thought.  I also was looking through my cards and rumaged past my Foil Skirsdag High Priest (the only copy I have) and thought that the interaction between these 2 cards might actually warrent a deck design.  If you add Geralf's Messenger in the mix, and some other creatures you have the potential to get a 5/5 demon turn 4 and gain 3 life/cards.  Definitely running Diregraf Ghoul s as a one drop or at least Gravecrawler .  

What do you guys think?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 12:59AM #2
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Sounds good but you can't really build a deck off a single card. Redundancy is needed. Skirsdag High Priest is the Wild Mongrel but he needs an Aquamoeba .
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 1:09AM #3
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So considering the secondary win condition, I'd consider attacking the hand with cards like Duress or add a Lilliana of the Veil here or there.  I'm also planning for when SoM and M12 rotate out, so I'm for the moment not going to consider cards there, but will definitely take advice for until that happens.  Considering cards that are splashable "might" be an option ( Thragtusk and Falkenrath Aristocrat ).  Maybe I should just have this thread moved to the standard deck help or we can discuss what we think Disciple of Bolas is Capable of in the future? :D
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 1:22AM #4
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I just played an opponent who used Disciple of Bolas . It makes me think. This card vaguely seems like it's waiting to be cracked open. It seems to be good with creatures with ETB effects such as Snapcaster Mage .

Oh, Skinrender .
Solemn Simulacrum

I think we'd like to draw at least 3 cards from its effect. (like a Concentrate )
Skinrender counts, Solemn Simulacrum sort of counts.
Thragtusk
Geralf's Messenger (it works on the mana curve, T3 Messenger, T4 Disciple)
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Treacherous Pit-Dweller - go ahead have a vanilla 5/4, I just drew 4 cards and gained 4 life.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 1:24AM #5
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Geralf's Messenger would come out right before the Disciple and would garner us 3 cards and the guy back as well.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 3:53AM #6
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I really think the card is best served as a pseudo Blue Sun's Zenith for midrange decks like the Rock.  Sac a Thragtusk, draw 5.  Sac a Solemn etc...  I originally was thinking I wanted to smoothly curve into it on turn 4 or 5 by playing threats like Messenger and Phyrexian Rager as precursors.  I even tried it in decks with Rancor .  If you're drawing 3-5 cards off it, you want to be finding answers, not more threats.  Zombies is the exception because it fuels Blood Artist well.  Still, I don't really want more than 1 copy in that deck either.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 11:19AM #7
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i'm pretty sure he's best served running in a zombies deck as a 1 or 2 of, since so many creatures have some sort of recursion or just the sheer value you can in the deck with it.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 3:44PM #8
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Messenger + Disciple is pretty disgusting. Garruk PH + Disciple seems like midrange goodstuff fun. 
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 6:48PM #9
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I don't think he does anything in this format, not compared to some of the other options. I could see replacing Phyrexian Metamorphs with him in Zombies post-rotation though.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 08, 2012 - 6:50PM #10
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I think it belongs as either a few of in zombies or a 1 of in  pod.
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