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11 months ago  ::  Aug 07, 2012 - 12:46PM #1
Enigma256
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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I have 10 cards in hand, Sturmgeist on the battlefield with 7 damage marked on it

do I lose the geist in the cleanup step, since I discard down to 7 before damage is removed
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11 months ago  ::  Aug 07, 2012 - 12:50PM #2
will_dice
Date Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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You do discard before the damage is removed, but State-Based Actions are only checked after both actions are performed. Therefore, Sturmgeist survives.



514. Cleanup Step
514.1. First, if the active player's hand contains more cards than his or her maximum hand size (normally seven), he or she discards enough cards to reduce his or her hand size to that number. This turn-based action doesn't use the stack.
514.2. Second, the following actions happen simultaneously: all damage marked on permanents (including phased-out permanents) is removed and all "until end of turn" and "this turn" effects end. This turn-based action doesn't use the stack.
514.3. Normally, no player receives priority during the cleanup step, so no spells can be cast and no abilities can be activated. However, this rule is subject to the following exception:


514.3a. At this point, the game checks to see if any state-based actions would be performed and/or any triggered abilities are waiting to be put onto the stack (including those that trigger "at the beginning of the next cleanup step"). If so, those state-based actions are performed, then those triggered abilities are put on the stack, then the active player gets priority. Players may cast spells and activate abilities. Once the stack is empty and all players pass in succession, another cleanup step begins.

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11 months ago  ::  Aug 07, 2012 - 12:52PM #3
Enigma256
Date Joined: Jul 28, 2010
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ok, I was just confused because 514.2 specifies that those actions happen at the same time, but discarding was before that

thanks for clearing this up
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