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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 9:01AM #1
laforge27
Date Joined: Aug 5, 2012
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I'm prefacing all my posts with the following:
I quit collecting Magic during the Stronghold expansion and justed started playing again in 2010 using my old cards, so please forgive any posts I submit that seem stupid based on current errata and whatnot. I'm learning the newer ropes here as well as brushing up on the old ones. 

My opponent and I both have an Icy Manipulator in play. If my opponent, during his main phase, uses his Icy Manipulator to tap a creature of mine, could I respond by using my Icy Manipulator to tap his Icy Manipulator to keep my creature from being tapped?

I've been doing some reading so I know that interrupts are no longer in existence but I'm not 100% clear yet on resolving the stack. I'm getting there. Thanks for reading.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 9:03AM #2
will_dice
Date Joined: Oct 18, 2009
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Tapping is the cost to activate Icy Manipulator ability. Costs are paid upfront; your opponent "using his Icy Manipulator" means he already tapped it. Tapping his already-tapped Manipulator in response won't affect the already-activated ability in any way.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 9:04AM #3
Segoth
Date Joined: Dec 16, 2010
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That doesn't work.  Tapping an icy manipulator to activate it's ability is a cost, costs can't be responded to.  So by the time you have a chance to tap down their icy manipulator, it will already be tapped and the ability to tap one of your creatures will be on the stack waiting to resolve.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 9:12AM #4
laforge27
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Thanks!
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 9:26AM #5
LMTRK
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The best you could do is target his Manipulator with your Manipulator, before casting a creature with Haste. He can still respond by activating his own Manipulat, but this way his Manipulator will be tapped, one way or the other, before your creature enters the battlefield.

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