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10 months ago ::
Aug 09, 2012 - 3:19PM
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Didn't MaRo say once that wedges have too small of a design space to hold a set together?
Depends.
   is the artifact wedge. It actually fits better than  , black not getting much artifact interaction.
 have more in common than any other tricolor combination. Lifegain, anthems, tokens, and +1/+1 counters are all 's mechanics. They also exploit the graveyard more than .
has combat tricks, lots of creature removal, and most sweepers. Also, lots of sacrificing and paying life.
has copying ( only of creatures, mostly of instants and sorceries but also of creatures so long as  they have a Ball Lightning  downside, and of everything). They also get mana ramp.
That leaves , the oddest combination. They get card draw and a few "screw the rules, I have money" mechanics, including a number of engines.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 10, 2012 - 12:06AM
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I also agree with them returning to the 4 color nephilim ideas.
Wedge is too Alara for Ravnica. Besides, with how they've doubled down on EDH Commander, legendary Nephilim that sweep in and take control is a great way for them to kill two birds with one stone.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 10, 2012 - 3:44AM
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That leaves , the oddest combination. They get card draw and a few "screw the rules, I have money" mechanics, including a number of engines.
Card draw. Card draw everywhere.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 10, 2012 - 11:18PM
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That leaves , the oddest combination. They get card draw and a few "screw the rules, I have money" mechanics, including a number of engines.
Card draw. Card draw everywhere.
And tutors. You'll be able to draw and tutor for anything, anytime, anywhere.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 11, 2012 - 1:43AM
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I also agree with them returning to the 4 color nephilim ideas.
Wedge is too Alara for Ravnica. Besides, with how they've doubled down on EDH Commander, legendary Nephilim that sweep in and take control is a great way for them to kill two birds with one stone.
I could see them taking another crack at Nephilim and 4-color magic, because it's a challenge and it's almost completely unexplored design space, but 4-color groups are so hard to define, I don't know how much space there really is. It seems like the only sensible way to start is to ask the question, "What *isn't* this color combination?" The only thing that really defines WUBG, for instance, is the lack of Red. Ok, so it's the opposite of Red. But does that really describe WUBG? The opposite of Red is WU. What do Black and Green bring to the table?
If they actually pursue this for a set, I'm sure we'll see a MaRo article about it or three.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 11, 2012 - 7:32AM
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I know!
They should make Nephilim have a new color: Purple!
How original an idea is that!?
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10 months ago ::
Aug 11, 2012 - 6:08PM
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I also agree with them returning to the 4 color nephilim ideas.
Wedge is too Alara for Ravnica. Besides, with how they've doubled down on EDH Commander, legendary Nephilim that sweep in and take control is a great way for them to kill two birds with one stone.
I could see them taking another crack at Nephilim and 4-color magic, because it's a challenge and it's almost completely unexplored design space, but 4-color groups are so hard to define, I don't know how much space there really is. It seems like the only sensible way to start is to ask the question, "What *isn't* this color combination?" The only thing that really defines WUBG, for instance, is the lack of Red. Ok, so it's the opposite of Red. But does that really describe WUBG? The opposite of Red is WU. What do Black and Green bring to the table?
If they actually pursue this for a set, I'm sure we'll see a MaRo article about it or three.
You'd have to do it by mechanics, rather than flavour.
UBRG - What is a core mechanic of BR, that can be bled into both green or blue?
WBRG - What is a core mechanic of GR, that can be bled into both white and black?
WURG - What is a core mechanic of GW that can be bled into both red and blue?
WUBG - Core UW, bled BG.
WURB - Core UB, bled WR.
Alternatively, you could just overlap a mechanic from each of the allied pairs; UBRG would have a mechanic of UB and one of RG.
It's really not even about giving niche cards to black.
It should be about giving black cards to Niche.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 11, 2012 - 6:19PM
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each Nephilim is 6 guilds, no need to single out the allied pairs
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10 months ago ::
Aug 11, 2012 - 7:19PM
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Anything is possible really. They could throw out the whole theme of Ravnica and turn the plane on its head. They've done so before. While I do want some enemy-color wedge action at some point, however, I find the chance of getting it in Sinker both unlikely and undesirable. WotC has already stated that all ten guilds will be returning in Sinker. Not five mixed-guilds, but ten guilds. That means (see the caveat above: anything is possible) that the guilds will retain their identity. That will be HARD to do in a single small set even without going crazy with a second theme for the set. I could see them doing some three-color mana enabling if only to help drafting work. Again, though, I doubt it. I'd expect enough two-color enabling in Return to Ravnica and Gatecrash to be present to make this unnecessary. Additionally, there's no reason to think that the result would be enemy-color wedges since allied-color tri-lands would be just as legitimate. Azorius-Dimir is no less legit than Golgari-Simic. I could more easily see something like a reprint of Wayfarer's Bauble  or something similar. If you want wedge lands specifically, root for a return to Alara.
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10 months ago ::
Aug 11, 2012 - 7:29PM
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Alara doesn't have a wedge theme, it has (or rather had) a arc theme
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