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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 2:10PM #1
-ArC-
Date Joined: Oct 14, 2007
Posts: 4
Hello everyone!

I played some casual MTG in the past and I recently got sucked back into it by a friend. I'm a big fan of control decks and I  really like the Nicol Bolas planeswalker, so I decided to build a standard control deck with him in it. I have done a lot of reading about standard format and control decks in general, but I don't have enough experience constructing a good deck. So I thought I'd post here and ask you guys for help.

My sideboard numbers and cards aren't complete and that is something I do need help with. This is what I have so far:


Planeswalkers (6):

Nicol Bolas,  Planeswalker x3
Jace, Memory Adept x3



Spells (29):


Think Twice  x4
Forbidden Alchemy  x4
Bonfire of the Damned x3
Black Sun's Zenith x3
Go for the Throat x2
Tribute to Hunger x2
Mana Leak x4
Essence Scatter x4
Gilded Lotus x3


Land (25):

Evolving Wilds  x4
Desolate Lighthouse x1
Dragonskull Summit x4
Drowned Catacombs x4
Swamp x5
Mountain x3
Island x4



Sideboard (??):

tragic slip
doom blade
negate
duress

A couple questions I have:
Should I inculde any creatures at all? If so, what creatures would go well in this deck?
Is Jace even a good card in this deck or can I replace it with something else?
Is my mana base okay? Do I need to add some more non basic land? 

Any help is appreciated. Thanks in advance  

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 4:14PM #2
WhosAsking03
Date Joined: Jan 26, 2012
Posts: 131
Your deck doesn't really have much of a win condition that I can see.  Your only damage dealing spell is Bonfire of the Damned .  The other way that deck could win is milling with Jace, but with no creatures he won't survive long. 

Unless you run all removal/burn spells, you need creatures to soak up damage and distract opponents from your planeswalkers.  I've been working on a Nicol Bolas deck; I'll post my decklist next.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 4:39PM #3
WhosAsking03
Date Joined: Jan 26, 2012
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Here's my Nicol Bolas decklist:

Planeswalkers: 1

Nicol Bolas, Planeswalker x1

Creatures: 18

Skinrender x3
Typhoid Rats x3
Slumbering Dragon x1
Fog Bank x4
Tyrant of Discord x1
Sheoldred, Whispering One x1
Archwing Dragon x2
Shimian Specter x1
Stuffy Doll x1
Grave Titan x1

Artifacts: 2

Gilded Lotus x2

Sorceries: 7

Bonfire of the Damned x2
Pillar of Flame x4
Devastation Tide x1

Instants: 9

Mana Leak x3
Unsummon x3
Doom Blade x3

Lands: 23

Dragonskull Summit x3
Drowned Catacomb x3
Island x6
Swamp x7
Mountain x4

Sideboard so far

Tribute to Hunger x4
Smelt x4
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The idea is to delay until I can play one of the bombs.  Fog Banks are surprisingly helpful at delaying big threats.  Typhoid Rats and Slumbering Dragon help delay attacks, too.  Stuffy Doll is nice if my opponent tries to use any board wipes involving damage.  It's still a WiP, but it's fun to play.
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 8:35PM #4
-ArC-
Date Joined: Oct 14, 2007
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Hey, thanks for replying.

From what I read online, control decks have little or no creatures, which was why I hadn't put any in. I understand what you're saying though, and it does look like relying solely on nicol bolas is not enough. I wouldn't mind adding a couple finishers in there but I'd like to still try to have as few creatures as possible. What would you recommend I add/remove?
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 05, 2012 - 9:31PM #5
SeishinKizuna
Date Joined: Jul 19, 2012
Posts: 417
I recommend a mono black control deck with Dragonskull Summit Drowned Catacombs and go pretty artifact heavy with Pristine Talisman Mox Opal Lashwrithe Mimic Vat Solemn Simaculrum and Trading Post
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 6:42AM #6
zombified.destructor
Date Joined: Aug 5, 2012
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If you'd like it to be control, then I suggest taking out one of the Nicole bolas planwswalkers and the jace's and add one tamiyo moon sage. Her plus one ability is awesome for delaying opponents creatures and I would put fog banks in, take out bonfire, it is a heavy to pay unless for miracle, and I would put as many dual lands in (that stay within color range) as possible. If you'd like me to I will post my Nicole bolas deck list...
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 6:43AM #7
zombified.destructor
Date Joined: Aug 5, 2012
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If you'd like it to be control, then I suggest taking out one of the Nicole bolas planwswalkers and the jace's and add one tamiyo moon sage. Her plus one ability is awesome for delaying opponents creatures and I would put fog banks in, take out bonfire, it is a heavy to pay unless for miracle, and I would put as many dual lands in (that stay within color range) as possible. If you'd like me to I will post my Nicole bolas deck list...
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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 9:59AM #8
SeishinKizuna
Date Joined: Jul 19, 2012
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Aug 6, 2012 -- 6:42AM, zombified.destructor wrote:

If you'd like it to be control, then I suggest taking out one of the Nicole bolas planwswalkers and the jace's and add one tamiyo moon sage. Her plus one ability is awesome for delaying opponents creatures and I would put fog banks in, take out bonfire, it is a heavy to pay unless for miracle, and I would put as many dual lands in (that stay within color range) as possible. If you'd like me to I will post my Nicole bolas deck list...



Stupid comment is stupid.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 10:06AM #9
Freyjann
Date Joined: Mar 22, 2010
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Aug 6, 2012 -- 9:59AM, SeishinKizuna wrote:

Aug 6, 2012 -- 6:42AM, zombified.destructor wrote:

If you'd like it to be control, then I suggest taking out one of the Nicole bolas planwswalkers and the jace's and add one tamiyo moon sage. Her plus one ability is awesome for delaying opponents creatures and I would put fog banks in, take out bonfire, it is a heavy to pay unless for miracle, and I would put as many dual lands in (that stay within color range) as possible. If you'd like me to I will post my Nicole bolas deck list...



Stupid comment is stupid.




Pot, meet kettle.
Nothing wrong with the Tamiyo suggestion since she's leagues better than Jace and 3 Nicol Bolas is probably pushing it anyway.

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10 months ago  ::  Aug 06, 2012 - 1:06PM #10
CrazyToast
Date Joined: May 12, 2010
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Jace does not interact with the board, he only draws cards and mills. Tamiyo is a much better card. She taps threats, draws cards and her ultimate is just amazing.
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